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Armchair-GM
Jan. 23 at 11:24 a.m.
Thread:
Move to the wing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>My bad. It was 2am here.
According to moneypuck, their stats are:
Monahan: 4/12/19
Savard: 3/7/10
So it would be 7 goal, 19 assists, and 26 points.
Not to poke fun but you made the same mistake (granted with different numbers, that I'm not sure why we are different), adding up their assists as points (unless you misspoke). Again, not throwing stones (obviously).
Well that's the either / or fallacy. Either Monahan is worth a 1st or you think he sucks. No. I think he is a very good player and is having a good year. But, you have to take into account that 55% of his goals are on the PP as are 45% of his points. For a team like the Pens that is valuable but most contenders don't need PP help. He also has an extensive injury history. These things lower his value. Not to nothing but less than a 1st. Maybe a very low 1st.
Well I'm not the OP. I do have a ACGM where I traded for Monahan but he was my 3C and PP guy. To you point, there is value in a 3C who can win lots of faceoffs and play 3rd line LW. But. I don't see that value as a lottery 1st.</div></div>
My stats were taken from the NHL's website so pretty sure they are more accurate than moneypuck. As for the breakdown, you're right, I did make a typo mistake when indicating assists instead of points. So Savard has 11 pts 5v5 and Monahan has 16 pts 5v5.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 23 at 6:29 a.m.
Thread:
Move to the wing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>Habs fans have lost their minds. Savard + Monahan together aren't worth a single 1st. They are combined 7 goals and 19 points 5v5. Not numbers worthy of a 1st, especially without retention.</div></div>
I'm not very good at math but looking at the official stats on NHL.com, Monahan has 4 goals/16 assists and Savard has 4 goals/11 assists for a combined 8 goals and 27 pts 5v5. That's a little more than 19 pts combined.
I get that you don't like Montreal and/or Monahan or Savard but when using stats has the only deciding factor about the value of a player, you could at the very least use the correct stats.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 16 at 12:49 p.m.
Thread:
why Habs fans
The other reason to separate that line is once Slaf understands that he has a great shot, he'll start to unleash it. That would mean two shooters on the same line. Suzuki is already given up shot attempts to try and feed Caufield and Slaf is doing the same. In the past month or so, Caufield hasn't always taken the shots he should have. The guys have to be a little more selfish in the slot and take the shot.
I would have the following as my first two lines:
Slaf-Dach-Anderson
Newhook-Suzuki-Caufield
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
Thread:
Bratt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>NJD can sign both Meier and Bratt at market value as many demonstrated earlier. And personally I would keep Bratt before Meier.</div></div>
Thanks for the feedback! I should have added that even though they can sign both to market value, how does that affect the rest of the roster. They still have a few other guys to sign. You wouldn't want to regress too much as a team next year because you went heavy on two contracts.
And as a MTL fan, I take Meier any day if they didn't want to give up Bratt!
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
Thread:
Fantilli turns Pro and MTL buys out Armia
Couple of things...
Your idea about Petersen is interesting and could maybe work except for one major flaw - Sean Burke no longer works for the Canadiens organization. He's now the Director of Goaltending for the Vegas Golden Knights.
Also, in your proposed line up, Beck and Teasdale will definitely NOT be in the NHL next year. If we are lucky to get Fantilli, I don't see the rush in playing him in Montreal. That is unless he dominates in camp. With Beck and Teasdale not in the lineup, absolutely no reason to buyout Armia. We'll have plenty of cap space so there's no need to do that yet. What he needs in the opportunity to play more meaningful minutes in the hopes he can build his consistency. Every year is the same for him in camp. He's always tagged for the fourth line. Tough for anyone to progress if you know you have no shot at moving up in the lineup.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30, 2023 at 5:08 p.m.
Thread:
Making Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Until monahan plays a game back from his injury his value is 0. Sounds like he went to see a specialist last week. If he’s getting outside team Dr treatment and evaluations. It’s not a good sign especially for a guy with a long and extensive injury history</div></div>
Could you explain this long and extensive injury history that Monahan has? From what I know and has been reported, he missed some time in the shortened season of 2020-21 due to surgery on one hip and then last season missed the final 17 games to get surgery on the other hip. According to the Canadiens updates recently, this current injury is to his foot. Other than that, I wouldn't classify Mony has having an extensive injury history. If that is considered extensive by your standards, what the heck would you call Gally's history? Just cause your an Avs fan and don't want them to pay a price you think is not warranted, no reason for adding exaggerations to your post.
As a Habs fan, I would be more than happy getting a conditional 2nd round pick in 2025 that becomes a first in either 2024 or 2025 if the Avs win the cup this year and Mony played 50% of the playoff games.
I just think guys like Horvat, O'Reilly will cost more than Monahan will but when the demand is high and supply is low, someone usually overpays!
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 23, 2023 at 7:36 p.m.
Thread:
2023 TDL and Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>No, we won't roast you for Boqvist. We know very well he's the one on the outside looking in next season, and he probably is a great add for Montreal for the right price. But what we will roast you on is thinking there's a spot for Anderson here, or that we'd give up even a late first to take him back.</div></div>
Fair enough! I just thought adding Anderson's size, speed and physical play would be of some help to CBJ. While there is some size on the current roster, guys like Gaudreau, Laine, Voracek, Roslovic, Nyquist, Texier, Bemström, Johnson and Sillinger don't strike me as very physical players. I will be honest and say I haven't watch too many CBJ games this year. I just know that the moment Anderson is traded out of Montreal, he'll score 25 goals/45 pts. But appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 21, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
Thread:
No Cole no Slaf
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>But you still have your second best player +Slaf should be coming back soon so you didn't really lose your best player. Chicago/Columbus don't really have a "best player" doesn't really have and Van will lose their second best player by TDL</div></div>
Slaf is done for the season btw. They indicated three months which takes us to mid April. The season ends April 13.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 16, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.
Thread:
Continue the process
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>The Armia trade doesn’t make sense for the isles imo. He’s a fourth line winger who is severely overpaid, and Beau is at worst an average second line winger.</div></div>
An average second line winger who has been a healthy scratch how many games so far this season? Also making $750K more than Armia and has never crack 40 pts in a season. That's not a second line winger imo. Armia could thrive on the third line with Pageau. He's also a great PK player.
Just figured since the rumours have had Beauvillier out of NY since last year, it was worth a shot.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 3, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
Thread:
HABS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Not sure if this is really a consideration, but it seems to me that this "trial by fire" for Guhle is a bit much. It would be interesting to see him and Harris get less challenging assignments so they can express themselves offensively and not just defensively.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Guhle is not up for it, but I would rather see him play a little less 5-on-5 and earn some time on the power play (for example).</div></div>
Totally agree with that statement! I wonder once Eddy and Matheson come back, if Guhle gets more time on the PP as Edmundson and Matheson can take up minutes on 5 v 5 (and PK for Eddy).
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 22, 2022 at 1:54 p.m.
Thread:
If worst case scenario all the guys are out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Hate to say it, but Eddy might be done. 2 years of Chronic back injury...</div></div>
he's out with a lower body injury this year. At least this is what has been reported today. Wouldn't call that a chronic back injury!
Unfortunate that people on this site assume the worst or assume they have all the details to make a comment.
Whether Edmundson is out three weeks or three months, it doesn't change the path Montreal is on this season.
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Armchair-GM
May 6, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread:
Preds 22-23
As a Habs fan, love that trade. However, I wonder if Hughes asked for the LA 3rd pick instead (or later pick) and for one of Matier or Prokop as a prospect? In this type of deal, Myers is moved by Nashville as a cap casualty (not a dump). Wonder if NSH fans would agree. Certainly gives Preds a great d-core imo.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 28, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
Thread:
Wth do you do
not sure a full tear down is needed after one bad season. The only guys that should be moved imo to allow for cap room without weakening the team would be Pacioretty, Dadonov and Martinez. If you can find a buyer for Lehner, he could be moved as well, providing you can find something better. Lastly, I'd resign Smith at about the same cap hit. That would still give them a solid top 6 with Stephenson moving to the wing instead of center.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.
Thread:
5STAR RETURN FOR CHIAROT NEXT KULAK TO THE RANGERS PLUS 33RD OVERALL FOR MCBAIN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tj_gm</b></div><div>Waste of a draft pick just to have McBain walk to be a UFA this August</div></div>
As I indicated in my above comment, a team that trades for his rights, whether it’s Montreal or some other team will only do so if they have a guarantee that McBain will sign with them, if acquired.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
Thread:
5STAR RETURN FOR CHIAROT NEXT KULAK TO THE RANGERS PLUS 33RD OVERALL FOR MCBAIN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Would be surprised to see McBain get a 2nd. Maybe a 3rd.
He is going to pick where he plays. The Wild have already passed it off to the agent to find the deal.
Guerin has no leverage. Its either deal with that team or let him walk.</div></div>
You may have more information then what I’ve heard on TSN but Guerin has already told teams that he wants a second round pick for McBain. But ultimately, you’re right, no team will trade a second rd pick if they don’t have any assurances he’ll sign with them.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
Thread:
petry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>I feel like the logical question here is:
"Why send a 1st+prospect off for a 34 year old, coming off an abysmal year, and getting stuck through his age 35, 36 and 37 years, when you could just spend an extra mil, keep the assets, and extend Klingberg?"
Aging curves are historically accurate, and hoping that Petry will bounce back is a pretty foolish risk to take for this price.</div></div>
Agree to disagree. Couple of counterpoints to your question. Word on the street with NHL insiders' is that Klingberg is looking for 8 yrs at $8M per at the very least. That to me would be pretty foolish for Dallas to do considering Klingberg's numbers offensively have declined significantly in the last four years. But regarding your comment about aging curves, explain how Pavelski (after a down year in his first with Dallas) and a guy like Suter (signing a 4yr deal) that brings him into his 40's is ok but Petry at 34 won't age well? I get that Suter's cap hit is nearly half of Petry's but even Dallas fans know that was a bad contract to sign by Nill.
Here are the facts about Petry's horrible season - in order of importance/impact:
1 - not having Weber anymore as the first pair D (Petry is a 2nd pair Dman), forcing him into a role not ideally suited to him
2 - not having Edmundson on his left side all year
3 - the lingering pandemic and tighten restrictions in Quebec forcing his wife to stay in Michigan with the kids (can't be easy for anybody, regardless of your livelihood or money)
4 - clearly not liking your head coach and trying to get him fired (for the record as a Habs fan, I think Dom Ducharme is a horrible coach and doesn't belong at the NHL level)
None of the above reasons are relating to diminish skills. Having a bad season can happen to the best of players. That doesn't mean Petry isn't a NHL defenseman anymore.
If Dallas did trade for him, I see Petry bouncing back next season for a 45 + point campaign playing behind Heiskanen and paired with Suter which essentially replaces the offense Klingberg has been producing the last few years.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
Thread:
Canadiens trade value tiers
Like most comments here, totally agree with the list breakdown. I think Suzuki is the clear untouchable of the group. The only one I question (because I'm a fan of him) is Price! I get it with the $10.5M cap hit and most recent surgery.....but
But the fact that he checked himself into the Players' Assistance program only means that is mental health (and physical) will only benefit him for the last four years of his contract. Say what you will, but he did take a mediocre team to the finals last season. That's right last season, not 5, not 8 or 10 yrs ago. The problem for MTL with a Carey Price trade is simply the expected return they may get for him. Habs would most def have to retain at least $2.5M to make any deal work. Also, they would need to forget about getting a first round pick (or multiple) in return. And they would certainly have to take cap back. But for me, that doesn't make his value negative, it just limits the number of teams that would actually be interested.
Let's keep in mind the most recent goalies to play past 37-38 yrs old. There was Lundqvist in NYR, Luongo in FLA and currently Smith in EDM and Anderson in BUF. Carey Price when healthy is better than any of these goalies - in the past, during their prime and when Price gets to their age! The only one that had really good numbers was Luongo and Price has always had better mobility and quickness than Luongo ever did. If he stays healthy, Price will still be a top 8-10 goalie in the NHL in the last year of his contract.
And for those that will say "but Carey's never one a Cup", the last time I checked only two goalies can win the cup every season - the #1 and his backup. Change Vasilevskiy for Price and Tampa still wins back to back Cups imo!
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.
Thread:
Could this work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>The Oilers already have 2 better goalies under contract next year, it's not a fit for Edmonton at all.</div></div>
i don't agree with that statement at all. Smith and Allen are more similar than you think. Any weakness in Allen's game applies to Smith as well when they are both playing bad or a little off. The only advantages Smith has over Allen is puck moving/handling skills and size. And I don't know enough about Skinner but seeing he only has 7 NHL games played at 23 and with 6 of those coming this year because Smith is injured, leaves me to believe is not ready for the NHL. Otherwise, Holland wouldn't have signed a 39 yr old goalie for two years. But you probably know more about hockey than me.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
Thread:
Could this work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Well, your description made it seem like they'd move him because of a sorta center logjam. Either way I think they prefer Bennett over Reinhart at C, but minor details
Hornqvist has an easy buyout price, I made a team just to take a peak and it's doable status quo for them with the buyout. Link if you wanted
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2835030</div></div>
I had a look and yes, it does work. However, looking at the current team vs yours, you didn't resign Vatrano or Acciari. And while I don't get to see too many Panthers games, that bottom six isn't great apart from Duclair - which to me shouldn't be on a third line anyway. And also, leaving yourself $180K of cap space on a 22 man roster doesn't seem like good business or roster management. That leaves them with no room for additions at that deadline should they feel the need to upgrade or something. I've never understood why ACGM's posted on here constantly show less than $1M-1.5M of space. You need some cap space for flexibility on your roster. You can (or shouldn't hope) for your highest paid players (or one of them) to go on LTIR the entire year just to have cap space or relief.
And as for the buyout of Hornqvist, while it does work, that $1.7M of dead cap space could be used in a better manner imo. They already have $6.5M of dead space because of Yandle and Darling. Can't see them buyout Hornqvist. And good luck trading him at $5.3M cap hit. You'll need to give a 2nd or 3rd round pick or good prospect to dump him.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
Thread:
Could this work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Bennett can play the wings... that deal starts with a 1st at the least. That being said, they do have enough cap space to make it work with Barkov. The difference between Bennett and Armia's cap hit does not justify the difference in skill... it's literally less than 1million dollars haha... and the justification for FLA moving him, is the same reason MTL probably wouldn't want to do this anyway, given Suzuki, Dvorak, and now Strome</div></div>
I'm aware Bennett plays wing as well. PLA does have other guys (8 to get to 23 man roster) to resign (or move from AHL) next year and only $4.4M of space. I guess they could get rid of Hornqvist or buy him out. Not sure. But thanks for the feedback.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 19, 2021 at 1:11 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roysboy72</b></div><div>No, I'm just saying that he was traded for two sevenths only a year ago, and since then he hasn't played in any way that would increase his value. Could even argue he's played a little worse since the trade, in fact.</div></div>
For the record, MTL sent the Blues a 3rd and 7th round pick in exchange for Allen and a 7th. So technically, Allen was traded for a 3rd pick which is what is shown above. Now while Allen is not a true #1 goalie, the way MTL has played when he's in nets, you can't fault for every goal or loss. On a high octane team like Colorado with great d-man, he could actually thrive in that setting. Let's keep in mind that his numbers were great in his last season with the Blues. He'd be a great back for a contender team without goalie depth.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread:
Lets talk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Flat cap era….anything with a cap hit has lesser value than pre pandemic.</div></div>
Quoting this statement but it's a response to others about Chiarot's value. Let's remember folks that at last year's trade deadline, David Savard netted CBJ a 1st and 3rd round picks while also having a higher cap hit than Chiarot does. Any hockey fan that's followed the NHL the last few years can't argue the fact that Chiarot is by far a superior defenseman than Savard and as already pointed out in this thread, absolutely built for the playoffs. Let's also point that on most teams, Savard is a third pair dman, which his what he was used for in Tampa last year. In a scenario where MTL retains 50% than ships him to a broker team that retains 50% on that remaining amount, Chiarot will count as an $850k cap hit for the last month of the season. My early betting favorite to land Chiarot is the Florida Panthers.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 27, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread:
Would this team be any better
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheGHANDI90</b></div><div>We'd be 1-5-1 instead of 1-6... What's the point of phil when we want to get to the basement of the league? Like Price, he keeps us in games that we have no business winning.</div></div>
Are you a Habs fan? Not sure your comment makes any sense. There is no way that Molson would purposely allow his team to be in the league basement. That wouldn't fly in MTL. The only way that works is if Molson states they're rebuilding. But if that was the case, you're right, Phil wouldn't be there but neither would Drouin, Toffoli, Chiarot and Savard to name a few. We'd have young players who'd get blown out every night.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 18, 2021 at 8:21 a.m.
Thread:
Another take on next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs4ever</b></div><div>How many times will my eyes see tierney to Montreal. It’s getting as bad as Byron to Ottawa.
Habs are not interested in tierney</div></div>
Do you work for the Habs? Are you part of Bergevin's inner circle? How in the hell would you know if they're not interested in Tierney? You can say that you don't like or want Tierney but to say they are not interested is BS. When will people on this site stop acting like they are representing their teams and speaking on their behalf.
That being said, he would be a great 3C that would provide more offensive upside than Evans but be just as responsible defensively. That way Dvorak could be allowed to focus more on offense while still being a player DD could use in all situations. And frankly, with the cap hell MB has put MTL in with the Suzuki contract, the Habs options for a reliable 3C that's affordable are slim. That's the reason I gave Tierney a 5 yr deal so the cap hit could be as reasonable as possible.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 18, 2021 at 8:19 a.m.
Thread:
Another take on next year
Do you work for the Habs? Are you part of Bergevin's inner circle? How in the hell would you know if they're not interested in Tierney? You can say that you don't like or want Tierney but to say they are not interested is BS. When will people on this site stop acting like they are representing their teams and speaking on their behalf.
That being said, he would be a great 3C that would provide more offensive upside than Evans but be just as responsible defensively. That way Dvorak could be allowed to focus more on offense while still being a player DD could use in all situations. And frankly, with the cap hell MB has put MTL in with the Suzuki contract, the Habs options for a reliable 3C that's affordable are slim. That's the reason I gave Tierney a 5 yr deal so the cap hit could be as reasonable as possible.
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