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Forum: Fauteuil - DGJun. 26, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2022 at 6:08 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Here is the biggest issue you have, you are a Habs fan trying to make fair trades with teams who's fans want to "win" the trade rather than just making a hockey trade. I actually had a Jets fan say the difference between Dubois and Dvorak is a mid late 1st but he said Dvorak + 2022 1st (Dallas) + 2023 1st (Montreal top 10 protected) + one of Norlinder, Farrell or Yelonen was not enough. All this was in the same thread where he said Dvorak + 1st = Dubois! It is ridiculous the amount of people on here that hate the Habs so much that they think not a single Canadien outside of Zuke or Caufield has any value.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Here is the biggest issue you have, you are a Habs fan trying to make fair trades with teams who's fans want to "win" the trade rather than just making a hockey trade. I actually had a Jets fan say the difference between Dubois and Dvorak is a mid late 1st but he said Dvorak + 2022 1st (Dallas) + 2023 1st (Montreal top 10 protected) + one of Norlinder, Farrell or Yelonen was not enough. All this was in the same thread where he said Dvorak + 1st = Dubois! It is ridiculous the amount of people on here that hate the Habs so much that they think not a single Canadien outside of Zuke or Caufield has any value.</div></div>

I can agree that there are A LOT of players on Montreal that have little to no trade value and in some cases negative trade value. But guys like Anderson, Dvorak, Petry and Allen are all significant adds for any team. Petry in particular for me is a player who has been Montreals best Dman (yes better than Weber) for years and if they think they can get a better deal for a Dman of Petrys caliber I’d love to see a comparable. Anderson is not a cornerstone player but in the right environment can be a 30+ goal scorer who can hit, fight, and is a great skater. These types of players don’t grow on trees. Like I said above, people are free to make rebuttles on my mock trades, I’d like to see where they stand on these types of players trade values
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 21, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>The team still struggled with Petry being "good". MSL finished with a .432 pts percentage, which would have been good enough for 27th/32.

therealisticguy made some very valid points: "Kent Hughes said he won't give assets to another team to take Petry. So from that sentence, that means Petry has negative value." and "But after, he says if we get a decent offer for Jeff, he WILL trade him ... Then the insiders are saying 4 to 6 teams are trying to acquire Jeff Petry ... So wtf does that mean, teams would take him for 'free' but K. Hughes isn't ready to just gave him away ?" That's where I'm at. I haven't said he's "bad", what I've been saying is that I wouldn't be giving up any sort of decent assets to acquire a 35 year old dman who's under contract for 3 more years, and that while people are saying "Yeah, Dallas gets cap relief from Dobie!", Montreal is also getting MAJOR cap relief here as well.</div></div>

Dallas and Montreal are two teams at different stages. Although they haven’t said they want to go through a full rebuild, they’ve also traded away Weber Toffoli Chariot and Lehkonen. Hughes also said he wanted to trade Petry. All these signs show that they want to younger.

Dallas on the other hand haven’t shown any signs of retooling or rebuilding. With good young pieces already in the NHL and key veterans such as Pavelski Benn and Seguin (yes overpaid), they seem to want to continue to compete for a playoff spot and acquire talent that can be brought into the equation immediately.

This is a type of deal that can fill both teams need, where Montreal gets cap relief and futures, while Dallas gets a top 4 Dman where a 3 year deal isn’t as risky in comparison to the 7-8 year deals that get given out consistently (Eg. Lindholm for Boston).