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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2022 at 7:49 a.m.
Thread: Who the Canucks should move in the off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Miller should only go if you get the right offer for him. The other four should be on the block the moment the off-season trade window opens.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>He was definitely available but it sounds like nobody could afford him and there was no point in selling low</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pain</b></div><div>It’s possible we can get more in the off-season, for example Seth Jones</div></div>

Ya I think it was a combination of these points personally. I think management knew there was no pressure to trade him at this moment so no point in taking low-ball offers (plus more teams will be involved in the offseason), and I think other teams probably figured it made more sense for them in the off-season as well
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22, 2022 at 10:09 p.m.
Thread: Minnesota wants Fleury ALL IN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>He just did. Homers wrong again. It really gets tiresome having to deal with this stuff on every ACGM. If you're not sure, dont be hostile, have some manners

<p>Fleury and MIN coming down</p>— Elliotte Friedman (FriedgeHNIC) <a href="https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1505924827223371779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">March 21, 2022</a></div></div>

Tons of wild homers (with many burners it seems) try to stifle fun discussion on this site because they felt they knew exactly what Guerin was thinking … lol! Saying they weren’t trading for a winger or a goalie or rentals (did all of the above), and that they wouldn’t trade kaapo ( they did ) hilarious! 😂
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2022 at 9:51 a.m.
Thread: Building
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>Toffoli isn't a perfect comparison because he has another year on his deal, but yes I see the point. I see why Vancouver fans think Miller is worth more. As a Leafs fan, I don't think he provides enough value to trade what the fans of the team want, so I would be happy not to do the deal.

It's not like the Leafs are desperate for him and need to make a deal. They aren't going to drastically mortgage their prospects and draft capital for one guy that doesn't fit with either of their two biggest needs (defence and goaltending). It benefits Vancouver to trade him more then to keep him IMO, since they aren't competitive now and likely won't be next year.

My original comment was just that the offer was not worthy of a "spit in your face" response. Apparently I have forgotten how much Canucks fans hate people from Ontario :)</div></div>

Well I’m from Ontario, so the provincial hate isn’t coming from me 😋 I agree that JT doesn’t suit their needs, but I just felt the need to chime in cause I have also been seeing a lot of fans thinking that some how changes his value. The price is the price. It’s a totally fair argument to say the leafs won’t pay it/ will use their assets elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean JT isn’t a good player or that the Canucks aren’t going to get a nice haul for him
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
Thread: Building
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>Justin Holl and Luke Schenn are, at best, the same. May depend on which team you're a fan of, but they're similar. I don't see a reason to include either in the deal TBH.

On the Leafs Miller is a 2nd line winger. You might love him and think he's perfect, but there's absolutely no chance the Leafs are giving you their top two prospects plus for a guy with a season and a half of control who (while having lots of points) is having less impact and worse advanced numbers this year then he has previously.

We can disagree, and that's fine. But every fan on here constantly overvalues your own players. You're asking for more then teams paid for Mark Stone, and Miller is not Stone.</div></div>

I agree that a lot of fans over value their players, but the market has already been set. Toffoli fetched a first, a B prospect, a 5th and a roster player. Miller is more valuable than toffoli because he can play C, can play Pk, and is a higher producer/play driver. It doesn’t matter what role he would play on the leafs, that doesn’t change his value. Other teams easily beat out this offer.