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Hammerwise

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Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Thread: Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>VERY true, I admit. But after looking at Petersen/Thomas/Parik and looking at other offers, (theres a thread about 5-6 down from a TBL fan who's offering a 3rd and 4th for Seeler alone), I think PHI does better than this offer, and theres just not tons there that they need/want.

Its not a lot of $$$ in retention, but its the loss of 1/3 of the spots for 3 years for a miniscule amount. And TWO years of Petersen, isn;t dissimilar from the 2 years of Murray another poster pointed out in another thread.

So, yes, I think I was initially wrong in my assessment in whether there was enough there for PHI. Im not saying seeler or Deslauriers are that great either, but taking on a cap dump of 5mil for 2 years in comparison to Murray probably cost a 3rd, and 1 of/if not both of Parik and Thomas, which leaves very little for the two players and retention PHI is giving up</div></div>

I don't think Flyers are getting a 3rd or 3rd and a 4th for Seeler. He is a depth defenseman playing less than 15 mins on average on one of the worse teams in the league.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Thread: Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Deslauriers with retention is a late 3rd fairly easily, Seeler, has the metrics and a lot of teams would have him at 775k for a good 4th, maybe even a late 3rd, but Thomas and Parik are starting to reach the meh stage. Parik is not playing well in the ECHL and Thomas is alright, but the shine of those are off. Thomas is probably PHI’s 4th best forward prospect AT BEST, not including that youngsters like farabee, cates, frost, Allison, tippet are in the NHL now and ahead of him. So Parik and Thomas do NOT offset taking on TWO years of 5mil tanking Petersen. I think you’d have to add something PHI actually wants for them to give up two players they don’t want to give up for that offer.

Matt Murray cost 33% retention down to 4.7mil and cost OTT a high in the round 3rd, to get rid of him, I just don’t think Parik and Thomas are enough for someone to take on that cap dump of Petersen and the 2 low in the round 3rds are pretty fair, market value for Deslauriers and Seeler

This is about the 4-5th time you've proposed pretty much this deal for these 2 players, and every time when I say not enough, you counter with something like deslauriers isn;t worth a 3rd, then stop proposing to acquire him.</div></div>

This is a quote from you: "PHI will have cap space so just join the two deals and make it realistic: Deslauriers at 50% and Seeler for cap dump Petersen, two 3rds and a 4th and a meh prospect, Akili Thomas?"

I admit I missed the 4th round pick part, I will change it.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:05 a.m.
Thread: Is it time to worry about Keefe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>I get that hes trying to see how things work out, but at some point you've got to have guys starting to play together regularly, its not like the Leafs will find the same linemates on Game 82.

For a team under so much pressure to deliver in the playoffs, this kind of scattergun approach to lines and callups has to stop, and the idea that the team will just gel for Game 1 is crazy.

It does nothing for the young guys and their development for them to be called up and sent down and for somebody else to go the next game. Holmberg, Steeves, McMann, etc... get called up for 10-3 games and sent down, another one gets the call next, and by the time the first guy gets called up again, its been 15-20 games. No consistency.</div></div>

Agreed. I just don't see who this is good for. I certainly don't play in the NHL but I did play AAA hockey and when coaches would run the lines through a blender I could never read the play the same because I constantly had to second-guess my teammate and how they would react. Having consistency allows you to anticipate where your teammates will be. This team added so many players that it needs 10 games to stabilise this and get the new and old leafs comfortable playing together
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 8:40 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 7:20 a.m.
Thread: Stanley Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>So this is in offseason.

Seeler is probably worth a 3rd at the moment, or a 4th, you have a mid to late 3rd and a 4th in 2024, so lets say Seeler is worth just a bit less than that 3rd, so you want 3 years of retention AND Deslauriers for a bit less than a probable late 4th TWO drafts away?

Its not the 800k, its that PHI loses a retention spot for 3 yrs. Deslauriers is worth a late 3rd in 2023 or 2024 definitely, but asking for 3 years of retention makes that pick a high 3rd in 2023 at least, which you dont have. deslauriers with retention is probably BOTH those picks alone.

Ultimately it would be extremely poor choice by PHI to even consider it. Its too light from LAK.

And then throwing Petersen, who PHI dioesnt need/want for a 3rd and Grundstrom (who they also dont really need)? in? I think Petersen cost at least a late 3rd to move at the moment, but PHI isnt the place, and they have alot of winger options better than grundstrom.

PHI will have cap space so just join the two deals and make it realistic: Deslauriers at 50% and Seeler for cap dump Petersen, two 3rds and a 4th and a meh prospect, Akili Thomas?</div></div>

I like your counter proposal. Good for a rebuilding team and good for a team that lacks touchness and cap space.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15 at 10:43 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Philadelphia has some intriguing young guys, potentially the cap space, need and desire. RW in Philly is Koneckny, Atkinson, Tippett, Bobby Brink, Wade Allison, LW is Farabee, Cates, Foerster, Gautheir, Desnoyers, Deslauriers, two likely top 10 1sts in 2024 (FLA and PHI), and a solid defense under the age of 28 (Sanheim, Provorov, DeAngelo, Ristolinen, York, Attard, Andrae, etc...), so maybe one from each of those groups and the 1sts kind of basis? (say Tippett, Farabee, York and two 1sts as a start).

Agree with both, the team has tried to roll with the big four and this is the last chance at that structure, they cant get to the next TDL without moving one of nylander/matthews, because you know they'll be 1st/2nd/3rd in their division and under pressure AGAIN to win the cup, you cant really trade matthews at TDL and just say "dont worry this is for the better future".
And I think the idea of Nylander taking 9mil and Matthews 14mil is really low, nylander is easily a 10mil at least guy in this market and matthews 15+. While I would keep matthews and marner, trade nylander and let tavares expire, this team has emptied the tank and has so few prospects and few picks to make the same moves theyve made this year,m and lessens the ability of highend ELC youngsters filling in the gaps.</div></div>


You're right about the high end ELCs, they are needed by virtually good team to counteract the high cap for the stars. So much on the Leafs trading their "stars" will depend on whether Leafs management wants to "go for it" next season or reload. Leafs don't have on regular Leaf in the lineup that was drafted by Dubas.
I can't see a "poor" team especially trading for Matthews, unless it is a sign and trade. And then we get into the situation if Matthews wants to go to poor team, although as you suggest some poor teams have the cap and potential.
Nylander....he has been outstanding this season. I just wonder if team will want to commit to him as 28 year old UFA to seven or eight years.
But moving any of the top players at next TDL kinda means the Leafs won't be winning next season. To me, it's keep everybody for a run, and take your chances signing them in the summer of 2024
But heck, even if not signed.....Matthews/Nylander/Brodie would give Leafs lots of cap in summer of 2024.
I say sell, I can wait another few more seasons for Leaf Cup :laugh . But geez not too long, I',m 68 years old.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15 at 9:28 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15 at 9:30 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I've been saying for years that Matthews isn't resigning with the Leafs. But let's imagine the cap goes up from 82.5m to 86,5m in 24/25 a 4m increase. If Matthews gets 14m and Nylander 9m, that's an increase of 4.4m for just those two guys. It doesn't make the Leafs better and they will other players expect pay increases also.
Leafs ownership have interesting decision this summer. If the Leafs "fail" in the playoffs does Dubas keep his job? And the other big decision is TDL February 2024, are the Leafs sellers of upcoming UFAs for Matthews, Nylander and Brodie? Reload for with futures which Dubas has traded away at TDL...with no results , and go into summer of 2024 UFA market with lots of cap.</div></div>

If Mathews doesn't resign this summer they have to start listening to trade offers for him. I'd personally start by talking to who ever lands the first overall pick, if it's Arizona and a sign and trade could be worked out, that would be the dream for the Leafs
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15 at 9:08 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Agree with some, I just cant see the leafs losing the cap space as long as they're looking at Matthews, Nylander and then Marner all hitting UFA. 600k isn;t much in 23-24, but 2.6mil in 24-25 is. The failed TV deals have kind of hinted that the cap might not shoot up and Laughton/Sandstrom are better in the next 2-3 yrs than Murray/Niemala. Im torn on Holmberg, SAD, and Steeves and could easily see them NOT re-signing Kampf if they acquire the better 2-way Laughton, with one of the younger guys getting 4th line C.

Not re-signing Kampf and playing Holmberg or SDA on 4th line, allows a more reasonable Zucker offer (I've gone too cheap at 2.9, but 3.6 is more realistic) and allows for a better 4th line LW option than Heinen - maybe Evan Rodrigues/Pulijarvi/Kapanen is a better but slightly more 200-400k option.</div></div>

I've been saying for years that Matthews isn't resigning with the Leafs. But let's imagine the cap goes up from 82.5m to 86,5m in 24/25 a 4m increase. If Matthews gets 14m and Nylander 9m, that's an increase of 4.4m for just those two guys. It doesn't make the Leafs better and they will other players expect pay increases also.
Leafs ownership have interesting decision this summer. If the Leafs "fail" in the playoffs does Dubas keep his job? And the other big decision is TDL February 2024, are the Leafs sellers of upcoming UFAs for Matthews, Nylander and Brodie? Reload for with futures which Dubas has traded away at TDL...with no results , and go into summer of 2024 UFA market with lots of cap.