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Hammerwise

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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 1:09 p.m.
Thread: Players Id want
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Got to think the Habs would accept this just on the premise of good value and the team already having a surplus of young dmen.



I sort of agree on the value standpoint but also think you may be judging him a bit harshly too. Its not every day that a team has like 4-5 under 23 yo NHL ready dmen all competing for the last couple spots on a team. He's showed he's more than capable at the NHL but ppl have to be reminded that he is also still young too. He's susceptible to brain farts but most 22 yo dmen are. I think we judge him harsher simply based on the fact we have a plethora of other options. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be an everyday dman on another team with less depth. Habs have an abnormal amount of young depth at this level that they can afford to not be as patient.</div></div>

Fully agree i think he could still develop into a decent dman, but I think philly could pry him from mtl for a little cheaper, then they wouldve been able to last year..But 100% he is a victim of the deep prospect pool the habs have on d.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 1:01 p.m.
Thread: Players Id want
Got to think the Habs would accept this just on the premise of good value and the team already having a surplus of young dmen.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>if i'm the flyers i'm looking at offering a 2nd with a 5th or 6th for barron instead of losing a 1st. Barron has had opportunities to crack the roster but hasnt been able to make the case to be an everyday payer in MTL so i'm not sure it would take a first to land him now.</div></div>

I sort of agree on the value standpoint but also think you may be judging him a bit harshly too. Its not every day that a team has like 4-5 under 23 yo NHL ready dmen all competing for the last couple spots on a team. He's showed he's more than capable at the NHL but ppl have to be reminded that he is also still young too. He's susceptible to brain farts but most 22 yo dmen are. I think we judge him harsher simply based on the fact we have a plethora of other options. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be an everyday dman on another team with less depth. Habs have an abnormal amount of young depth at this level that they can afford to not be as patient.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 11:27 a.m.
Thread: Where would the Pens be if Hextall didnt mess up 21-22 offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>The final years are already looking sad. Two straight years out of playoffs, no youth in system, acquiring every has been/never weres to fill in organizational holes, etc....

The pieces that they have that have value are the pieces they will not move: Croxby, Malkin, letang, etc....because they view their history tied to them (similar to the NYI teams of the 1980s), and the team will limp along outside of the draft lottery AND outside the playoffs.</div></div>

Thats Valid
Even if they just sold Crosby re-signing him in 2 years
They'd get a couple decent Prospects and a couple decent picks if not a better deal for taking back a Player
Lots of Good players out there with high caps and no real trade partners
Crosby's cap exchange makes a lot of them players in the Crosby market.
For Example a deal where LAK pays PIT to take Dubois or even a 3 way deal with CGY where you get paid to take on Huberdeau.
Scrub nobodies succeed by Malkin and infront of Karlsson and Letang so Huberdeau should have no issues (Plus some players suck in the West it is tougher. He thrived in the East though)

PIT could contend but not by keeping the status quo and gambling as Dubas has a history of doing that and coming up short
He overpaid once and made the 2nd round of the playoffs for his team for the 1st time in 20 years so i hope he learned from that experience.
But find more Bunting like trade deals and get value for that Cap space as it gets filled.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 10:51 a.m.
Thread: Where would the Pens be if Hextall didnt mess up 21-22 offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>So if 9 of their 18 skaters were different, they'd be good?

Imagine if the fans just said "fine, trade everybody and lets rebuild"</div></div>

More like because 9/18 skaters are different they're not
All the changes but no rebuild just means a revolving door of bad decisions trying to stay relevant.
Need Proof? Look at TML as an example . Until they rebuilt truly there was no success as there was no Matthews,Marner,Reilly,Nylander, ext
TML sold off everyone from those rosters basically and ran out the contracts they couldnt move and after like 2 decade they made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs.
With the pieces they got they could do the same this year as well maybe even hit a ECF but its TML so i doubt it and they'll likely choke lol

Point is PIT isnt rebuilding its just wasting time, valuable time of many future HOFers
You got Great D you likely couldnt move for any value worth it in Karlsson/Letang
If PIT was smart they'd Trade Malkin and Crosby for a stock pile so by their 39th-40th birthdays as their Contracts expire they can come back to PIT for 1 final run.
Karlsson and Letang would have 2-3 years to whip the new guys into shape and make them contenders.

I know MTL would give up a decent return for Crosby but im sure others would too
Malkin at his cap even at his age would draw a lot of interest and likely a higher return cause of the low cap with term.
PIT could re-stock their top 6 completely if they do it right and draft well in that timeline.

Otherwise the final years of 4 All Star HOF NHLers is going to be a sad decline
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 8:18 a.m.
Thread: Next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Dont know about the defense, this season Treliving said there wasn;t enough offense on the blueline, and picked up Klingberg.

Lyubushkin, Benoit, Edmundson are all long shots for even 10pts each over an entire season. And McCabe/Tanev are really 15-20 pt guys.

Other than Reilly most of those guys cant even carry the puck.

And if the Leafs dont do well in the playoffs in 23-24, why would you bring back pretty much the same forward corps? (Reaves, Kampf, and Jarnkrot probably dont get better with age, and Woll/Fleury is just asking for injuries)</div></div>

I do agree with the lack of offence from the D group. Could always run with Timmins instead of Bush as well. Or sign Tyson Barrie to a low cap hit deal instead of Bush?

Rielly-Roy
McCabe-Tanev
Benoit-Barrie
Edmunson-Timmins

Barrie being a #6 would be fine. Especially paired with a guy like Benoit.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 7:01 a.m.
Thread: Kenny Money
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>You'd have to think the asking price for Laughton with 3 yrs of retention is a 1st and 3rd easy.

But that leaves a lot of junk for Seeler:

Savoie is a former 4th round pick not scoring in 2 yrs in AHL has minimal value
Nieminielin is a 25 yr old going nowhere in 2 yrs in AHL
Fogele is an expiring cap dump

Thats just a few bodies PHI doesn;t want.</div></div>
I'm not disagreeing with the overall thrust of your comment, but the part where you call Foegele a cap dump is simply unreasonable. He's not some useless 4th liner that's paid 2x his worth. If I had to guess, you mean that he's a necessary cap casualty (different from a cap dump) for EDM to complete the trade but that doesn't mean he's valueless or a negative value. At absolute worst, he's an asset you can flip for a 3rd, perhaps even a 2nd given his performance this year.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5 at 9:02 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 7:11 a.m.
Thread: Walker and Savard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>It's Colorados 2nd. So it's a late 2nd. Call it 30-32 spots difference. Because Savard isn't worth a 1st on his own?

I also don't see how that's a bad offer for Walker either. He will get slightly less than Tanev in my mind. This is slightly less.</div></div>

He is worth a 1st with retention, just like Lehky, just like, Chiarot, Just like Monahan. Don't know why so many people on here value picks so highly when even a top 5 pick only has about a 50 ish percent chance of making the NHL compared to the guy who is already an NHL player. Here we aren't even talking about a top 5 pick though, it's like 25th ish which has about a 10% chance of making the NHL, that isn't worth more than a guy who strengthens you D and increases your odds of going on a deeper run.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 6:18 a.m.
Thread: Walker and Savard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>I dont think it gets done for Savard, especially because you're getting him at 50% for two years for an exchange of 20-30 draft spots. And a 2nd and 4th for Walker might get it done, but your 4th is THREE drafts away and youre throwing in a 1.1mil defenseman who doesn;t play defense that PHI doesn;t want.

You are the BUYER, the seller sets the market, especially as you're the more depserate party and Tanev is off the market. I don;t think TOR gets to decide on the Tanev price (which again, most think CGY got slightly fleeced) as the market value.

So I dont think youre getting a 2nd in return for Savard, and because TOR doesnt have one, its a 1st.</div></div>

Most Calgary fans are wrong though. They got 2 x 2nds in value and it sounds like they really like the prospect. 2 x 2nds is easily worth the late 1st they wanted. Any rational fan will see that it was a decent trade for both teams.

But fair enough on Savard.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28 at 9:24 a.m.
Thread: Future future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>You think a guy whos played for 6-7 teams in 7-8 years, is going to watch the cap jump up DRAMATICALLY over the next 2 years and settle for a long term deal for .25mil when hes shown hes a 4-5mil player by putting up better than .5ppg on a 3rd line?
Or that Tavares will have any game left playing for in 2 yrs time, or would bother getting his old bones off the couch for 1.25mil for 2 yrs?

What have the leafs done so well, that you're so intent on keeping the "band together"? You really think in 2 yrs time that you will have 4 new defensmen and the exact same forward corps? Why would you?</div></div>
I don’t think our issues are at F, our lack of a competent D core that can break the puck out and clear the front of the net is the biggest issue we have, plus JT will hardly get any mins apart from tipping shots on PP2, Minten will be a good 3C or 2C for years to come