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Forum: NHL Trades15 hours ago

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreOfAnIslesGuy</b></div><div>Wasn't on much today. I hated the idea of eating Parise's contract, which ends when he's 40. If there was a 50% retainment and Ladd was going the other way, maybe - but that's hardly possible without us giving up something BIG.</div></div>

My opinion on Parise is basically if Lou could get Minnesota to retain enough to get his cap hit down to 5,000,000 with Ladd going back to Minnesota, then I could live with it.

Minnesota, rightfully, didn't want to be on the hook for 33ish% of his contract AND all of Ladd's contract.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 hours ago

Thread: Islanders 2020-21

Trade 1: Need to add more with that kind of retention. Maybe a 3rd rounder or an average prospect like Jobst. But you’re right, a trade like this could have happened today.

Trade 2: Maybe a different prospect or something. Ho-Sang might not be what people are looking for. Still, I think it’s clear Ottawa intends to rebuild for awhile, so it makes sense.

Trade 3: Pretty fair trade. Honestly, you could get more for Leddy. Like you’ve said, we’ve seen 2nd pairing LHDs go for way more.

Forum: NHL Trades22 hours ago

Thread: (OTT/NYI) - Pageau for 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, conditional 2022 3rd

The Isles needed a 3C and they got one of the best. The Isles likely make the playoffs, so I don't think OTT gets a high pick here. The Isles don't LOSE this trade.

However, Ottawa wins this trade. If Pageau left for nothing, that would have been bad. Now they get presumably two quality prospects for him.

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 3:24 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Source?</div></div>

Staple via twitter

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 3:20 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

Sounds like the Parise deal is dead, sadly.

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 3:07 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Who's Bolduc?</div></div>

Isles picked him in the 2nd round last year. Left handed defenseman from the Q. Could be a long term project, but he's got a huge frame, good hands and is very strong. Last I heard his development was going pretty well.

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 2:43 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>If the Parise deal does end up happening you’re right. Well probably have to move Leddy as well</div></div>

I think Toews is ready for the left 2nd pairing and Aho can probably fill in on the 3rd left pairing. Bolduc will be ready in 2-3 years, and I have high hopes for him. We always knew this defense was going to only get younger. My only hope is that if we move Leddy, it's so that we have more picks to use to trade Boychuk.

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 2:38 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Ok, so I’m not actually gonna cry, but I’m worried about the offseason with having to resign Barzy, Pulock and Toews. Ladd is going back so it isn’t terrible, but Parise is now a 2 million add on to our pay roll, along with the reported Pageau extension. I’m excited for the season, but the offseason has me a bit worried</div></div>

Might have to give up a top future asset to move Boychuk or a middling asset to move Komarov.

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 2:36 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>I’m gonna cry</div></div>

Love the new subtitle for your name

Forum: NHL TradesMon at 2:35 pm

Thread: 2020 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Let me see the deal 1st lol</div></div>

Y'know, I was fretting about us losing our 1st rounder, and I still don't like seeing it go, but the reason I hated the idea was that Pageau was a pending UFA. Lou just signed Pageau, a 27 yr old scoring center who can kill penalties and is great in a locker room, to a 6 year contract. And that 1st rounder is lottery protected.

Fair deal if you ask me.

As for Parise, I say go for it so long as Ladd is the main piece going their way. I'd rather have an overpaid NHL 40-50 point scorer than a overpaid AHL 40-50 point scorer. If we have to give Minnesota a middling prospect or two, so be it. As long as that prospect's quality is below Bellows.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:52 pm

Thread: isles boychuk leddy traded

I feel like Ottawa would still take that deal if it didn't include Koivula. They're in for a long term rebuild and it's not like Boychuk hasn't been playing good hockey lately. I don't think he's begun declining yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 2:58 am

Thread: Blackhawks deal

As another fan of both teams, saying deep dish is dog **** is worth at least a 2nd rounder or middling prospect like Durandeau.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 5:16 pm

Thread: Soro has been traded

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>Even though it’s not happening- why in the world would it be for Lehner? The mentions from Islander fans almost unanimously mentioning they hope it’s for Lehner. Guess they’ve had enough of Greiss?</div></div>

Had enough of Varly, honestly. Greiss is fine as a back up, Varly hasn't lived up to Lehner though.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 5:12 pm

Thread: Sorokin rumors

Sorokin is projected to be a future star goalie. I wouldn't be shocked if he were a game changer next year. He's just been too dominant in the KHL. Essentially breaking even on Lehner-Varlamov (Lehner's a bit better, but not by much) and getting Saad back isn't enough in my book. Two years of Saad really isn't enough for a future star goalie who's already proven he can handle a pro environment.

If this were Wilde, a 2nd and Varly for Saad and Lehner, I'd do that deal no problem.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 5:05 pm

Thread: So did it happen or not

Even if it did happen, Chicago would have to take back a LOT of cap. Between Lehner and Saad, the Isles can't take on an additional 11m.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:36 pm

Thread: Maybe dont

Not sure that trading away our 1st rounder is a good idea. Outside of Sorokin (who still might stay in Russia) and Dobson, do we really have anyone who looks like they could be a difference maker at the NHL level? I think Wahlstrom could, but he looked spotty in the NCAA last year and hasn't been all that good in the AHL. I think Wilde could be good eventually, but not any time soon. Outside Bolduc, who I think is a long term project, I don't think we have any good LHD prospects. And Holmstrom looks like he could be a middle six winger, but not for another three or four years. Bellows has looked okay so far, but I haven't seen anything that suggests he's Top 6 winter material.

Are we sure we want to move our 1st rounder for a big contract when we really don't have too much cap space and a good, albeit incomplete prospect pool?

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:28 pm

Thread: Islanders and Stars fans how do you value Wilde and Harley respectively

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Same, I did surgery to the isles ratings lol, also Komorav is like a 70 on my roster</div></div>

We'll always have to.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:43 pm

Thread: Islanders and Stars fans how do you value Wilde and Harley respectively

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>I edited him to be a high top 4 😡</div></div>

I always edit that stuff in EA games. They said Dobson didn't have Elite potential and didn't even include Sorokin or Wahlstrom in the game (probably for some kind of rights issue, but still)

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:42 pm

Thread: Islanders and Stars fans how do you value Wilde and Harley respectively

I'm pretty high on Bode Wilde. I think Dobson's a better prospect, but not by as much as people might imagine. He has size but still has the speed and offense first mentality of a new NHL style defenseman. Coaches love him, and though he didn't produce all that well in Bridgeport this year, he's pretty young. Give him time, I'm confident he'll be a great Top 4 defenseman.

I'd be willing to part with him, but it'd have to be for a guy with term. Definitely not a rental. Tatar or formerly Zucker would be who I'd have my sights on. But if we're moving Wilde, I'd think we wouldn't want to include a 1st unless the returns are pretty generous. Our prospect system isn't as good as we think it is.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:27 pm

Thread: Hawks sabres

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Lou needs to make a significant move without giving up dobson or wahlstrom. 1st rd pick, bellows, wilde, should be in play. This is a win now team.</div></div>

I mean, I agree with that so long as it comes with the understanding that "win now" does not mean "win the Cup now". We're not gonna win the Cup. You need to score more than 2 goals in 4 games if you want to win the Cup. Which is why I like trades for guys like Tatar or Saad. They have some term on them so we're not giving up a significant future piece for 30 games of a 2nd line forward.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:21 pm

Thread: Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dchill</b></div><div>Thoughts on what kind of contract would go back?</div></div>

Probably Hickey. Similar term to Tatar. Wouldn't be opposed to retaining part of Hickey's contract. Another option might be Matt Martin, though I'd be hesitant to break up the shock troops again.

Not sure how MTL would feel about taking Komarov back, but that's another option. He'd have to waive his NTC (or leave MTL off his 7 team list), but at least he still plays a decent brand of defensive hockey.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:14 pm

Thread: Hawks sabres

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>what's his injury history before this season? just checked hockey db and he's played at least 80 games the previous 3 seasons. He's still young, only 27 YO</div></div>

Yeah, I just checked. Huh, I thought I remembered him having an injury history. Nvm.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:06 pm

Thread: Hawks sabres

Chicago should be looking to rebuild. If they're smart, they'll accept that deal. If they still think they can contend, they won't accept that deal.

That said, I'm worried about Saad's injury history. He got injured pretty badly this season and he's always played a very physical game. You'd have to think he'll age pretty quickly. Not to say the Isles shouldn't consider trading for Saad, but we could probably get him for less.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 6:01 pm

Thread: COL - CAR - NYI

I like Saad fine, but Dobson's off limits. The word is that at the last TDL, Lou turned down a trade to get Stone for a package involving Dobson.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 5:56 pm

Thread: Isles

If the 1st in lottery protected and Montreal takes some amount of cap back, I'm definitely in favor of this. It's like a lot of the offers on this site for Kreider, only it makes sense.

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