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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 11:46 p.m.
Thread: Jets get better and get pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Sorry Howie, this makes no sense for a rebuilding team that doesn't need cap space and may even need contracts to hit the cap floor over the next 2 seasons. I know you think cause of my protest to your thread earlier that I don't see Anderson as a cap dump but that was never my issue with it, it was simply the fact that you created the earlier thread just to troll and dump on the Habs. It probably would cost a 1st maybe even two right now for Montreal to move Anderson but with no incentive to do so the Habs simply wouldn't do it. Maybe if we had a fully healthy lineup and were 2nd or even 3rd in the division and we wanted to make additions at the TDL, paying to dump Anderson would at least make a bit of sense.</div></div>

Anderson now or in the future is a dump and taking away cap and ice time from younger players. Also a pick like pick 24 I'm 2025 which won't make an impact until likely 2029 and not s guarantee to make the nhl is more than fair. Idc that you reported me doesn't change the fact that Anderson has negative value not saying the jets don't have one in schmidt but Anderson is definitely worse with the term and playstyle he plays.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 11:11 p.m.
Thread: Jets get better and get pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>I wouldn't use cap dump but nil value .... see the proper way to use wording to identify a deal ... No one will line up for Vlasic nor Gallagher. I can do that without insulting players or downgrading value using the right words. Using Milk to compare if he's fresh or not is also a bad way to put your opinion cuz so far your opinion is outdated milk to all of us and I wouldn't want to upset you with that!</div></div>

So you would trade FA for vlasic? No because based on the cap you would want to get assets to take th3 contract. It's not insulting a player to call them a cap dump. They are an nhl play that is top of the world in hockey. They are the best of the best in hockey and to get to that level takes years of practice and dedication. Calling someone a cap dump as stated before is value in which a team would want to be compensated for taking on a contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 11:08 p.m.
Thread: Jets get better and get pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LumberJacques</b></div><div>Ylonen is being rotated with Armia and Pezzetta, whether Anderson is there or not won't likely affect his ice much. If he hadn't been scratched all season I might be tempted to agree with you but if he's being rotated with 4th liners and not playing above Pearson then Anderson isn't what's blocking his way.

The issue that I can't seem to get through here is that you're trying to fix a problem MTL don't have "NOW" and aren't even sure they'll have in the future. It's a bit like if someone was trying to sell you a tent because you might go camping in 2 years. You tell them that's great but you don't even know if you'll actually go camping though, so you'd rather wait until then to buy one. The salesman replies that prices might be higher at that point so you should buy his tent now just in case. You then reply that you'd rather wait to see if you actually need one before buying it, as it makes more sense to pay a higher price when you know you need a tent than to pay for a tent now and not be sure you'll actually need it.

We don't know what will happen this season, let alone next season or the one after that. What we do know is that the more term comes off a contract, the easier it becomes to move. Therefore if MTL don't need to move this contract now or next season then why rush to do so when the price to move said contract is not likely to be much higher when they eventually MIGHT, POTENTIALLY, find themselves needing to move it? It makes more sense to wait and see how things develop and act if needed, than act now at expensive cost for something that may never come to pass. Several years ago people made the same type of ACGM about Weber and Price's contracts that would have seen MTL pay dearly in assets to move potentially "problematic contracts" which never ended up being much of an issue for the team.

So to sum up, if there does come a time where MTL do need to rid themselves of Anderson's contract then whatever the price ends up being they will pay it. In the mean time they have no need to move his contract and so they won't.</div></div>

I'd rather see mtl pay the price as he'll be an issue more ein the future so sure the term goes down but he gets worse just virtue of playstyle. So I'll agree there the cost now would be similar to in the future but not cheaper. The cap space and allowing to young players was another big positive as what if Ylonen plays amazing with the ice time. No one would know without this move. He's already 24 years old and really hasn't got the opportunity. I don't think Ylonen should be sacrificed in development so mtl can save a pick that could be a vesalainen.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 11:01 p.m.
Thread: Jets get better and get pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>that the problem with the capitalist-biased mind: valuing humans, instead of effort. Cap reality for a 20-goal top 9 players is valued at what 3,5 to 5,5 ?! Does the guy fit the requirements or did he meet those requirements prior to the contract dealing? If the answer is Yes, why a cap crunch situation should make a player a «dump»? It is flawed even in philosophic path dude.</div></div>

Look at vlasic on sj. Obviously he was a beast for many years but looking at his contract now what would you give up to aquire him? Better question, what would it take to for sj to pay for mtl to get him. Mtl fans should know cap dumps well with Monahan who has really turned around got a 1st. Sure Anderson could be a 20-30 goal scorer but based on the cap hit and his play to this point not to mention other factors like term, actual salary, bonuses, player role and playstyle. He just isn't worth hid cap hit and should be explored dumping to any team as cap space rules the league and being able to get rid of a contract that could sour at any point.

Example for you. Nhl players are food and drinks in this scenario. Anderson is milk right on the expire date but it's not store brand milk either but not the expensive stuff. You think hey I have this milk and it's right on expiring you have a choice you can keep the milk and hope the it doesn't sour right away or you can get rid of the milk and let it be someone else's issue if it sours. You don't know if it's already sour or will sour the next day but you have this milk that's right on the edge of being thrown out or having potentially sour milk for days. Hopefully this makes sense.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 10:53 p.m.
Thread: Jets get better and get pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VladislavTretiak</b></div><div>He is not playing badly at all.

Anderson plays north-south and south-north. That's pretty much it. The problem right now is Martin St-Louis wants his players to get positioned where the puck will be going next. Sometimes it's north. Sometimes it's east, or west, or north-east-east. Anderson is north-south and he's a bullet train with grit. He's scoreless but he creates time and space for his teammates. He would thrive with any team that plays the good old Canadian hockey style. Bring back the 1975 Broad Street Bullies and he's your guy.</div></div>

Anderson just really isn't a modern day player which is a blessing and a curse. Sure he provides a lot of what is disappearing in the game but he is also not in tune with the modern play as a result. Sure he's creating but again 8m for 2 assists just isn't enough in the modern nhl considering his ice time and role. Like this guy could realistically be a 30 goal 50 point player but when he doesn't adapt to the modern game and plays a style that can drop production earlier in a career. Look at Ladd in nyi Martin with toronto. These players are paid big bucks on these intangibles but when it comes down to it its too much cap for the tangible things required
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 10:47 p.m.
Thread: Jets get better and get pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>the famous «Be Part of It or Exit» is proof that you guys are limiting the forum on the wrong basis!</div></div>

It isn't against the rules of the forum to use cap dump. Obviously if it's used and then they go.into detail trashing the player and being overall disrespectful to the player with comments that are directed towards the player to the personal level I agree 100%. But to get mad at use of the term cap dump when I went into detail that it's nothing against the players but more indicative of their value is where we disagree and to say that we should not use the term when you don't like it but clearly isn't against the rules of the forums isn't possible as saying everyone should not use it is not a solution. Capfriendly moderation team can't possibly go through all the use of terms that are towards players when the focus should be on the user's being respectful to one another. I'm sorry I used cap dump but I will still use the term in the future as I don't have any personal issues with the players but more about their value with again is opinionated.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27 at 10:38 p.m.