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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 6, 2022 at 12:33 a.m.
Thread: Who else likes this trade idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You're utterly failed to take into account the significant discrepancy of age, cap hit and term between Kapanen and Geekie. You completely ignored my note "when you factor in age and contract differences." Even their productivity is closer than you'd like to pretent: Geekie had 22 points in 73 games while Kapanen had 32 points in 79 games getting 2 minutes more ice time per game, and there are certain subtle indications that Kapanen played on a better team than Geekie.</div></div>

I didn’t utterly fail to take into account those things. I’m just logical and know it’s irrelevant. Let’s start with the age aspect. They are literally only 2 years apart. Let’s not act like there is a 10 year gap. Both are still incredibly young and just entering their prime. So you’re just wrong to say there is a significant age gap.
Now the cap hit. The difference in cap hit is only 1.8 million. And that could be less next season. That’s not a significant difference.
Now for the term. Geekie is on a 1 year contract and Kapanen is on a 2 year contract. Again not significant.
Again I didn’t ignore anything. It was just a baseless and irrelevant argument to make.
And no their production isn’t close. The one pretending there is you pretending it’s closer than it is. But anyways, it only proves my point that in a career year for Geekie he was still 10 points less than Kapanen who had a bad year. When you take pts/60 Geekie had 1.4 to kap’s 1.7.
And if Geekie is playing 2 less minutes per game on a bad Seattle team, what do you think he’d get on a much better pens team?
So long story short you’re argument is silly considering you’re claiming Eberle is much better than Zucker even though Eberle is older by 2 years, has more term on his contract, and only had a .2 pts/60 advantage while playing like 3 minutes more per game than Zucker and arguably played with better linemates than Zucker.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
Thread: Zucker - Kapanen - POJ package ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>ANA would do Zucker + POJ for Mahura + 3rd + 4th

Zucker: Costs a 2nd to move
POJ: Worth a late 1st
=Net of a 2nd/3rd</div></div>

I dont think I could disagree more POJ is on the same level as Vaakaneinen, He isnt even enough to get me to take on Zuckers contract let alone give anything up for that package

ANA easily declines the OPs trade, and the one you suggest.

The same arguement against Muzzins value is there for Zucker, there are realistically 5 teams that can take Zucker on without sending cap back. ANA, ARI, BUF, CHI, DET and Zucker has no-trade protection so that makes a deal even harder to do.

POJ doesnt really fill any need we have and he would have to battle to not be in the AHL with us, even long term he might not be good enough to crack our NHL roster

I dont mean any of this to sound harsh if it does, just trying to explain my reasoning
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.
Thread: Zucker - Kapanen - POJ package ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine875948</b></div><div>Tyler</div></div>

Hmmmm... Idk. If Johnson for Zucker is pretty much a wash, then Kapanen and POJ might pay for the upside and affordability of Kurashev. In that case, it would probably be fine as it stands with no additional pieces. But, I don't know how high CHI's front office is on Kurashev. If they think he could be part of the future, it might take more to get Kurashev away from them. Plus, there is the obvious logjam of left handed defensemen in CHI, which makes acquiring POJ kind of a pain. Zucker isn't really flippable, even half retained. Kapanen I think might still have some un-tapped potential if put in the right situation and finds some chemistry with the right players. So, I'll stop talking in circles, because I really don't know. But that trade is probably pretty close as it currently stands.