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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 29, 2016 at 8:36 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rwdaniel</b></div><div><i>Should try to claim a goalie off waivers if there's an opportunity as well</i></div></div>
Agreed. I like Stalock......as a person. As a backup....its a nice story, but is not working out
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 29, 2016 at 8:35 p.m.
Thread:
Sharky
Why the HELL would we trade Tierney? 4th line C with top 6 upside. We have wanted 4th line depth forever and we are not trading a guy like Tierney, who can produce with good linemates and play terrific defensive Hockey.
That aside, I can see some of the other moves working out. But Marleau will not likely waive, particularly to go to the Habs who stink something awful lately.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2015 at 9:28 a.m.
Thread:
Sharks Sell
Won't Happen.
Joe and Patty refuse to waive and ride out their contracts
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 24, 2015 at 2:20 p.m.
Thread:
JVR and Josi join Sharks in fair deals.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NPDB</b></div><div><i>Why does everyone think Franson is a top pairing guy?</i></div></div>
Wish I knew. He is AWFUL defensively and will not make contact.
To the trades? I wish. Roman Josi for Couture straight up would be closer. No need for Nashville to give a 1st. Josi outplayed Weber last year.
I'd Pay that for JVR. But unless Mike Milbury took over the leafs, I am pretty sure nobody else would. JVR on paper is worth way more than that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 24, 2015 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread:
Fixed Teeth
Thornton is retiring a Shark
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 24, 2015 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Realistic
GOOD GRIEF.
No no 1000x
Let's just roll with ZERO defensemen who can put up 30+ points from the blueline?
Not to mention taking on Staal, who rags fans are already lamenting his contract being an albatross.
Nash is a big upgrade over Marleau and younger. But Nash disappears in the playoffs more than any Shark AND Burns is too good to send the other way. Quite Frankly, I would not trade Burns for Nash straight up given he is our ONLY offensive Dman and he improved in his own zone significantly towards the end of the year then had a lights out WC
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2015 at 7:42 p.m.
Thread:
O. Ekman-Larsson for Goldobin, Mueller, Dillon.
I still say they would not do the trade. much as I love OEL.
but for posterity...
I'd rather trade Goldobin than Meier. Meier is the power forward we have been wanting for awhile. Goldobin is skilled no doubt. Probably more skilled. Meier would mesh with the Joe's line far better. He is a drive the net kinda guy, while Goldobin is more of a playmaker. I want the sandpaper in our top 6.
Why are we trading Smith? Smith was one of our best faceoff guys and Pkers in the final stretch of the season. That's the kind of 4th liner you want.
Goodrow was decent as a 4th liner, but you have pretty much seen his ceiling. Does not kill penalties, does not do faceoffs and does not finish.
Meier/Thornton/Pavelski
Marleau/Couture/Ward
Hertl/Tierney/Wingels
Karlsson/Smith/Nieto
Torres
That 3rd line was great towards the end of last season. Let it keep going.
The 4th line with Karlsson + Nieto immediately gets better at possession and can rack up points better than most 4th lines, and Smith is a faceoff wiz and decent defensively.
Quite frankly, if you get Larsson, there is no need to grab Zidlicky. OEL immediately becomes our best two way Dman, and can share PP duties with Burns. And OEL can absolutely EAT icetime in all situations. So can Vlasic to be honest. Zidlicky has a good shot, but is small, old and gets pushed around easily. The reason I wanted him was to have another offensive DMAN and a guy for the 2nd PP unit. With OEL and Burns, that is no longer necessary.
Vlasic, Braun, Martin and OEL on the PK. Burns and OEL on the PP.
At ES, roll the lines fairly even. Martin can easily cover for Tennyson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2015 at 10:24 a.m.
Thread:
15-16 Hawks Blockbuster (plz comment)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jarett18</b></div><div><i>Leafs just don't have room for Bickell at this point. Also wouldn't do the Ehlers trade if I'm Winnipeg regardless of any NMCs. The Jets are not the kind of organization that will trade premium prospects for goalies making $6m a season.</i></div></div>
And they flat do not need him. They have 3 legit goalies
Try Keith, Seabrook, Kane or Toews
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 13, 2015 at 7:17 p.m.
Thread:
15-16 Hawks Blockbuster (plz comment)
Absurd.
Crawford laughed at the idea of waiving his FULL NO MOVEMENT CLAUSE.
AND
The Jets have the goalie of the future in Hellebuyck in the minors 1 more year, another year of legitimate starter Hutchinson on an ELC and another little bit with Pavelec platooning.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2015 at 8:02 a.m.
Thread:
Mueller, Dillon, 2017 2nd for Maatta; Sign Franson; Donskoi on top line.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div><i>How about you
1) specify in this case to make it more fair and
2) not generalize ALL my trade proposals (which are generally very fair) by disagreeing with one (admittedly stretched) case.</i></div></div>
WIlson JUST resigned Dillon. Not that he has never done it, but I have a hard time seeing him traded so soon
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 6, 2015 at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
Karlsson, Michalek for Couture, Burns, Mueller, 2017 1st
Hahahahaha
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2015 at 3:37 p.m.
Thread:
Zidlicky signed, trade for McDavid
Hey hey. Keep in mind, sharks late picks are gold.
Pavelski, Clowe, etc
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2015 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
Zidlicky signed, trade for McDavid
In retrospect, they should have thrown in Nurse as well. We could add a 7th i guess
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2015 at 3:07 p.m.
Thread:
gsdfgs
Let's not get silly. Not a prayer Jones gets a contract that high as RFA.
Think more along 2.5-3million at most. perhaps less. Likely 2-3years
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2015 at 10:59 a.m.
Thread:
SJS 6/29 Update
All we really need is a goalie, and a top 4 Right side Dman. Irwin is a lefty and Tennyson a 7th.
Would LOVE to trade for Spurgeon who is for sale. But they want a Center.
Green is the best UFA for the right side available unless Sekera can switch sides.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2015 at 10:51 a.m.
Thread:
TO Trade
NONONONONONONO.
Couture is the only top line center we have under the age of 30. Hertl will not be top line center talent. Winger maybe, or 2nd line center. But No way we give up Couture.
It is more than fair value, but I say big NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Also, NO TO BIEKSA. Broken down 34 year old who was awful the past 2 years and wants an extension to waive. I would rather sign Yannick Weber, who the nucks did not option for bottom pair duties
Forum:
Site Discussion
Jun. 30, 2015 at 10:38 a.m.
Thread:
Cap Errors Megathread
Please promote Tierney from AHL to the Roster. He became a graduate last season. Played 43 games and had 10 points in the last 10 games as he steadily improved. Took over the 3rd line C position, while Hertl was moved to LW
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2015 at 9:07 a.m.
Thread:
Sens Post Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zbaddest</b></div><div><i>Why is that Yakupov trade untealistic? Cowen might not have proven himself to be how good he's supposed to be, but Yakupov has not proven to be the great player he is either. It's an unproven player for another unproven player. Plus, Ottawa would be adding a second round pick to Edmonton too. The only reason Derek Roy came in is because Smith got traded and he would be an upgade over Zack Smith. And about Chabot, to be honest with you, I'd rather have him play right now than to see some of the other defenseman play and mess up like last year. That Nyquist goal against Ottawa shows the terrible defense Ottawa had, so maybe adding Chabot can fix the defensive situation up a little. He can be a good 7th defenseman. And if Chabot isn't ready for the line-up, then he isn't, but we don't know for sure because after this summer he might be ready. So, if it doesn't work for you, that's good for you, but it works fine for me.</i></div></div>
The Oilers just got a new coach upgrade, GM upgrade, and have been firing scouts and training staff left, right and center. They are going to give the kids time to adjust to the new coaches and see if they can blossom. You don't trade a 1st overall pick who was being ruined by coaching and stupidity go for pennies. Cowan is the definition of a draft bust. The jury is still out on Yakupov.
Yak will still be treated as a 1st overall pick until a full season of coaching from the new staff. So he ain't going for a draft bust and mid 2nd rounder.
Either you are trolling, or are delusional.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2015 at 7:09 a.m.
Thread:
S J S
Good god no.
Bieksa thing has been sorta Debunked. Both GM's deny trade talks. Thank god
If we were going to ship a 2nd and Nieto, I would want to target Spurgeon
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2015 at 4:10 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bender26</b></div><div><i>bollig also wasnt getting paid 4mil a year to be a healthy scratch</i></div></div> Arizona needs 18 mil to get to cap floor.</i></div></div>
So you expect them tot take garbage to meet the cap floor and trade picks doing it?
if they wanted to reach the cap floor, they could overpay some UFA's better than Bickell without giving up picks
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2015 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread:
San Jose Sharks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GlebMinsk</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>J0e_Th0rnton</b></div><div><i>No prob. Stafford had a bounceback with the jets no doubt. But Frolik is an all purpose forward. Plays the PK, PP and 5 on 5 and is very good defensively, playing on that jets shutdown line.
I see him as a great RW for Marleau/Couture as they tend to get the shutdown assignments and he is 2 years younger. For the record, Marleau is not waiving. you could tell who was eager to see Tmac go from who showed up supporting the new coach at the presser. Marleau/Wingels/Stalock. Stalock was in a bind. He could get a shutout and still get benched the next game. Happened twice last season. Marleau was less motivated than ever. Not sure about Wingels.
Hertl/Tierney/ Wingels or Nieto was so effective in the last 15 games of the season that I would love to see more of it. You may want to recall Tierney lol. Tierney was scoring at a PPG clip in the final 12 games and him and Hertl found genuine chemistry. He is a lock to make the team.
but Oduya is 33 years old, and merely average and certainly not an offensive force. We have enough defense first Dmen. In fact, all of them but Burns are not a threat. We need to balance the threat of a point shot on our blueline across pairings. As it is, teams can cheat to cover our forwards due to lack of a threat from the point when Burns is on the bench. Irwin is not the answer either. All he has in an NHL caliber shot. His skating and gap control are awful.
if Spurgeon is being shopped, Sharks should look into it. But also look into Sekera and Green. Green just put up 45 points from the 3rd pairing with reduced PP time. Say what you ill about him, but Burns has been just as unhealthy over the years.
Vlasic/Burns
Dillon/Braun
Mueller/???????
Edit: I just realized. you forgot to resign RFA Dillon. 4x the player Irwin is, so you may want to edit this lol.
Just stay away from Franson lol. The guy wants the moon and sucks.
As for forward depth. We have some promising prospects in the system. We just signed Donskoi, who was playing great in his league and was a PPG player at the WC. look him up on youtube. Kid has moves, top 6 potential and could make the team right out of camp, barring severe problems getting used to north american rinks.
Goldobin is a guy I think needs another year in the AHL, despite many hoping he makes the team. He is a top 6 or bust, as he lacks in aspects of the game other than offense and looks like a stickfigure being pushed around by AHL men. Guys like Chartier and Lebanc will challenge for a spot too.
For once we have great forward depth in our system, despite lack of bluechips.</i></div></div>
So many thoughts, that's good)Marleau will remain in the team, I do not think that he would remove NTC,but I strongly doubt that he will return to his level,unfortunately age influences on his game.
Agree about Alex, he did not get a lot of chances.I believe that Wingels will be okay, especially if be able to play more stable.it is important to be able to add how youth players, Hertl has been difficult season of course.I really like Berns,but I prefer the he as a striker, too many mistakes in the defense now,but at the World Cup, he was really good in defense.
Donskoi was really good at the World Cup, and in the playoffs of his league is really important.I am confident in Goldobin all will be well he has a great hands, hockey IQ and skating, I think it will be useful to a year in the AHL, to add to power of.
What do you think whom should choose sharks in the draft?</i></div></div>
Depends. We need defense more than Forwards. Provorov or Werenski are my top 2. If neither of them are available(A distinct possibility since Provorov's stock has risen and Columbus needs a Dman too), then I say we trade the 9th pick back to 12th or 13th and get another 2nd rounder.
Why You ask? Because the players likely left, Barzal, Zacha, Rentenan, Meier, Connor, Crouse, are all very equal to me on the boards. I would be happy with ANY of those guys. Getting another 2nd rounder would possibly allow us to nab one of the top goalie Prospects. Blackwood, Samsonov or Vladar. Our goalie pool is near empty.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2015 at 4:04 p.m.
Thread:
Trades with Sharks and Avs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zbaddest</b></div><div><i>But when you look at the stats, Stone is better than Couture. No doubt about it. Stone is a better two way forward. He is amazing on the Power Play and does a great job killing penalties. If Stone played with Marleau, he would still play exceptionally well, because he doesn't need his team mates to make him better. He leads the league in takeaways allowing him to make his own plays and not always need too many assists.</i></div></div>
Then you look at advanced stats rofl.
Seriously? You are not trolling?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2015 at 4:18 a.m.
Thread:
Best Sharks team 2015
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rwdaniel</b></div><div><i>Call up Donskoi when given the opportunity</i></div></div>
No need. He will make the team from camp :)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2015 at 4:18 a.m.
Thread:
Trades with Sharks and Avs
Not even the most hardcore sens fan thinks Stone is that good lol
If Michalek was as good as advertized(You would swear this guy thinks he is selling to doug Wilson on the phone)they would just keep him haha.
I am pretty sure I am being trolled at this point .
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2015 at 7:32 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks and Boston swap with the Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ktaaffe8</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>J0e_Th0rnton</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ktaaffe8</b></div><div><i>No way the Blues trade Shattenkirk or Pietrangelo. If you want Bouwmeester or any other defender, go ahead. I wouldn't say that Elliott is a castoff. In all likelihood he returns to the blues this year and plays 30-40 games and continues to excel as he has the past few seasons. But I believe Allen is the future</i></div></div>
And still no way you get Pavelski without one of those two. His value is the type that requires and impact player in return, not multiple lesser players</i></div></div>
I can see where you are going. Do you think the Sharks would accept Backes, Oshie and Elliott for Pavelski? I recognize that he is an impact player and I believe pairing him with Schwartz/Steen and Tarasenko could be amazing. Both teams need to change their core players up somehow to advance further into the playoffs.</i></div></div>
No.
Let's call it a moot point. Wilson called Pavelski untouchable and by all expectations, he could be the next captain. He also has a no trade clause.
The Sharks do not need Oshie and Backes. They need a solid offensive defenseman, preferably the two way offensive dman, and a goalie.
We actually have 15 forwards and adding 2 for 1 and our superstar winger is not helping us.
I appreciate what you are trying to do. I just don't see us as trading partners. I would not mind Oshie, but i'd rather pay a Frolik or Stafford in UFA than give up assets. We have 19 million in cap space.
This is at least not a crazy trade like that Sens guy trying to trade all the players he does not want and Anderson for Couture
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