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Forum: NHLMar. 9 at 4:12 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>As said before if we went by your guidelines Flyers would not be TDL winners. They got a (probs late) 1st for walker at the cost of a 4m capdump whose got another year left. Thats not really selling high as they sacrificed to get a low 1st which is basically equivalent to a high 2nd anyways. Bought a 3.25m #7 Dman when they had so many many Dman already. And traded borderline for borderline player. That dont scream win

That like TOR, NYR and others screams middle of the ground. There's no need to always have roster turnover at the TDL nor go after the big flashy toy to win it all. Blues and VGK won cups with a single trade at the TDL (Barbashev and Zotto). Meanwhile last year BOS went all in and lost in 7 despite adding Orlov, Hathaway and Bertuzzi

I the end as mentioned earlier everyone entitled to an opinion even if when using the guidelines be incorrect</div></div>


I guess i'm just kinda confused on what you think my guidlines are? I'd expect a team with stars to go out and help their stars before there stars are 35 and cupless. Probably because I watched Hextall waste the primes of Giroux and Voracek's careers.

I'd expect a team without stars, and has overperformed all year (Flyers), too trade guys who aren't gonna be important in 3 years, having a career year, and are valued higher than they've ever been before.

1. Walkers aggregate value was likely around a mid 2nd in this deal. Before the year he was a throw in a trade likely neutral valued by the GM's. They took back Johanson for purpose of making Colorado willing to part with a first. (which is smart) 2nd&gt;nothing

2. They then bought cheap players Gurianov and EJ, because the team is overperforming and deserves some sort of help for a playoff push especially with injuries on backend to Seeler/Drysdale/Risto. It wouldn't make sense if they splurged big assets on a Guentzel or a Hertl, they aren't ready for that. They don't have the star talent Carolina, Vegas, Leafs, Or Rags have.

Not to say who they acquired is great, however they spent a 4th + a guy who couldn't make the team out of camp for players that provide more value to them then what they sent out.

3. With the 1st acquired, and not committing a lot of cap space to player long term, they're now in a lot better position to add a young core player via the draft or trade -- someone who could make an impact during the Michkov era.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2023 at 7:32 p.m.
Forum: NHLDec. 12, 2022 at 3:31 a.m.
Jesus. I had the energy to debate with Habs fans about Chiarot of his very inflated value, which was true, he got traded for way too much, and the other participant regretted it soon after.

No doubt same is going to happen with Anderson. Some fool is going to trade a haul for him, and regret it soon after. I'm tired of discussing the whole topic. Only reason why these players gather out such a massive debate is because they happen to play for the Montreal Canadiens.

My opinion on Anderson is this - Should Anderson ever return more than a 3rd round pick, similar to Chiarot, at least stats wise, were it basic or advanced, there's absolutely zero justification for it. Anderson might have some decent attributes that interest GMs, such as his size and speed, but as an overall player he comes up way too short when compared to his salary. I mean I could be the best cake mixer in the world, but that talent would be of little use if I can't f*cking bake the rest of the cake. This metaphor describes Anderson to me quite well.

He is probably the first 30-35 point player who earns a staggering $5,5M, and still considered a high value asset.

And yet, despite all that, should Anderson get traded, there's no doubt in my mind it will be for a haul involving a first round pick, a prospect, and probably a cap dump of some kind. Otherwise MTL won't even move him, and to me it seems like fans would remain happy if that was the case, because for some reason they like him.

To me, there's two things getting mixed up in this discussion by the most active debators of this whole issue
- what is he actually worth in return
- what will he actually get in return

These two things are COMPLETELY different.
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It's not as simple as that. The cap doesn't change, and Toronto would be allowed some relief, but they're not just allowed to go over the cap by Kesler's contract value.

Toronto is allowed to replace the injured player on LTIR with another contract and receive cap relief. The cap relief is calculated each day. So let's say on day 1 of the season, Toronto was $2M over the cap with Kesler's contract on the books. So they divide that $2M by 186 days (or however many days there are in that particular season). In this example, the Leafs would receive $10,752 in cap relief for that day that they could bank and use later in the season.

As the season progresses, the amount of daily LTIR relief earned increases, adding usable cap space to the team's allowance. Halfway through the season, the team would have received $1M of cap relief. For this reason, it's preferable for teams to be as close to the cap as possible before they place a player on LTIR. That's why the team traded for David Clarkson's contract last summer when it was apparent that they might have to deal with a Marner holdout. They expected to be able to fit his new AAV under the cap using LTIR, but they weren't going to be able to afford a pro-rated cap hit for players that hold out into the season (like the situation was with Nylander). By adding Horton, they maximized the amount of LTIR relief they received, even without Marner's hefty contracts on the books.

A lot of people think that LTIR is just free cap space. It's not. It's much more complex than that and can cause issues if you don't fully understand how it works.