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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 4 at 8:03 a.m.

Thread: Detroit

Think the value is ok for Joker but I don't think the Sabres want picks. Andrew Copp would probably interest Buffalo. Even if it's not a 1 for 1 swap.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 11:43 a.m.

Thread: Its a Cates for Jokiharju swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WJC_Enthusiast</b></div><div>I'd try to nurture him into such a role during the 2024-25 and 25-26 seasons</div></div>

Well, good luck, because the reason he's not in Buffalo right now isn't for lack of offense. Despite his cold streak.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 9:44 a.m.

Thread: Its a Cates for Jokiharju swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WJC_Enthusiast</b></div><div>From what I saw from Kulich at the 2023 and 24 World Juniors, I believe there is a chance to develop him as a great 3C behind two others</div></div>

how long would you like to wait for Kulich to become a defensively reliable 3C?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 9:27 a.m.

Thread: Its a Cates for Jokiharju swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WJC_Enthusiast</b></div><div>Do the Sabres really have a need for more forwards? They have a thousand forward prospects incoming...

-Savoie
-Kulich
-Rosen
-Ostlund</div></div>

I don't see a developed bottom 6 center there. If the Sabres want to win (and it was rumored Kevyn looked at Cates, and mentioned out loud his desire for a bottom 6 C) then this is the type of move they need, and want to do. They also talked to CBJ for Jenner.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 9:25 a.m.

Thread: Its a Cates for Jokiharju swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>Cates is a nice bottom six defensive forward which playoffs teams want to have. Long-term Jokiharju won't be more than 3rd pair guy for them.

Long-term RD depth for them is
Sanheim
Drysdale
Bonk
Jokiharju
Ristolainen

It's simply not a good move long-term for them.</div></div>

Like Jerry said above, if they move on Risto, it makes a lot of sense.. to me at least. He's been effective all over the defense for Buffalo this past season. Played with Dahlin, Power, Johnson, Clifton...

The reason I believe the Sabres move on here is because they have their 4 long term, top 4 defensemen, they have Clifton and Ryan Johnson. Paying upwards of 4 million for what shoehorns him into the bottom pair when everyone is healthy doesn't make sense.

Understood on Cates. I personally wouldn't have a problem adding small to that offer. Still seems reasonable though, even with the Bonk trajectory.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 9:00 a.m.

Thread: Good morning

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>I think hayton is better. Worth the gamble to me</div></div>

I'd tend to agree, but I think Krebs and Hayton 1 for 1 could be achieved, or even adding a 3rd or 4th to Krebs gets it done.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 8:37 a.m.

Thread: Its a Cates for Jokiharju swap

Surplus for need on both sides.

Cates doesn't put up much offense and Jokiharju can be used on any pair (best as 3-5). Sabres need a defensively sound bottom 6 C, Flyers need a younger defenseman for their on the fly retool.

Thompson
Cozens
Krebs/Cates
Cates/Krebs

York-Sanheim
Seeler-Ristolainen
Drysdale-Jokiharju
Zamula-Attard

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 8:28 a.m.

Thread: Atlanta Coyotes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Is ARZ really gonna give up on Hayton so fast?

Idk that these pieces would be of interest to BUF,
but the value is good enough that we could accept
It’s probably an overpay tbh</div></div>

Yeah that's an overpay by AZ, but I'm not sure how useful that is to Buffalo. Not sure Hayton would be that interesting of a target to use Joker on.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 8:18 a.m.

Thread: More scoring more defense and needed changes actually addressed if they arise

That Buffalo trade is real Leafy.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 7:55 a.m.

Thread: Good morning

Probably just rather keep Krebs in this case.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 10:42 p.m.

Thread: Sabres 4th Line Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Quinn Savoie 2025 1st ?</div></div>

that price will never be paid. the offense is nowhere near the value of that return.

I don't have a problem using Savoie or Kulich 1 for 1. If not, I also don't have a problem moving on.

Getting Will Carrier back in the org as a UFA offers far more value than losing a 1st, Quinn and Savoie.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 10:22 p.m.

Thread: Sabres 4th Line Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CuyahogaKid</b></div><div>Sabres fan here, if your goal is to pry Crouse out of Arizona, it’s going to take a haul to do so. You’re going to need to start with Kulich, and/or an unprotected 2024 first round pick.

My guess is that they will want a top prospect, an NHl roster player (Quinn or Peterka) and probably a first round pick.

Is that an overpayment? Yes of course it is, but that’s what it will take to pry Crouse out of Arizona. He is a top six F with size and toughness and signed to a team friendly deal. Not gonna be cheap what so ever.

But, yes I would pay that because guys like Crouse don’t grow on trees.</div></div>

Hm. Wonder if Rosen and Jokiharju does the job. I'm not sure I want to spend much more on a bottom 9 player.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 9:43 p.m.

Thread: Sabres 4th Line Offseason

Just seeing what makes sense. Not sure if a prospect will break through at camp. Rather find guys ready now.

Sorry about Bryson. He's a 7th, find another one, don't care.

Owner and GM are are obsessed with Girgensons. Might as well accept it.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22 at 9:01 a.m.

Thread: trade deadline

How about Evan Nause or Michael Benning for retained Okposo

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22 at 8:55 a.m.

Thread: Habs 24

Didn't you just watch that guy beat the Habs last night

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 14 at 7:28 a.m.

Thread: There is interest in Mittelstadt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Yes because players don't have off years. Same thing was said about Cat and low and behold he goes to a different team and he's almost a PPG player. Is he perfect, No. But he would bring things to the ice the Sabres need.</div></div>

Fine, send them Jost and a 3rd round pick. Using a player like Mittelstadt to acquire a player like Laughton is asset abuse.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 10:40 a.m.

Thread: There is interest in Mittelstadt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Laughton is a decent start</div></div>

Don Granato is a decent start, to leave.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 10:40 a.m.

Thread: There is interest in Mittelstadt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Greysuits</b></div><div>Frost is an ideal 3/4 center for the Sabres. Lawton can be a good 4th liner and the first is a first.</div></div>

So, a 4th line center for a horribly coached team, and a late first round pick, which is... a pick.

My questions remains unanswered.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 10:37 a.m.

Thread: 2024 Stanley cup champs

This roster is still a first round loss to the bruins.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: There is interest in Mittelstadt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>well the sabres wont pay him the contract above so they will move him</div></div>

yes, quite a good reason to trade him for a heap of parts

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 10:34 a.m.

Thread: There is interest in Mittelstadt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Greysuits</b></div><div>Sabres yes, and you are on a recorded line so no turning back now.</div></div>

Which one of those players ever makes the Sabres better

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: There is interest in Mittelstadt

No.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 7:52 a.m.

Thread: Trade deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>V123</b></div><div>Isn’t Krebs not the one with only 7 points this season?? And is just stuck in the middle six and most likely will be as long as he’s in Buffalo</div></div>

Krebs has his uses. Those uses exceed Lars Eller.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.

Thread: Buffalo

This trade only helps Vancouver.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.

Thread: Hola Zegras

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boos</b></div><div>Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.

Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.

Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows to come my way.

:)</div></div>

the other site used rosen instead of quinn

don't think the value is there. think quinn-savoie-1st gives the org way more long term value

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