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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25 at 9:37 a.m.
Thread: MEIER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Show me which players received 2 1sts in a trade and tell me if Meier is their equal. Eichel got something similar in Krebs who was a 1st, a 1st, a 2nd, and Tuch. Kerbs hasn’t panned out to equal a 1st. Meier is no Eichel. Debrincat got a lottery pick, a 2nd, and 3rd but again he is a better winger. Rarely does a player get two 1sts and Meier isn’t in that caliber. If we were to trade Jake Guentzel tomorrow I wouldn’t expect 2 1sts even if he was going to be an RFA instead of UFA. Very few players are worth that price.</div></div>

Eichel was a NMC, so he decided where he went. This lowered the price quite a bit. Debrincat was a throwaway by Chicago gm purely for the sake of losing. Pretty much everyone thinks that Chicago should've gotten more. The return wasn't assets for Chicago management, it was a better shot at Bedard.

Again, I remind you that the prices aren't arbitrary. Maybe it is an overpay in other years. But the market cost for Meier is rising as teams are trying to outbid each other. What started as a 1st, a high prospect, and a roster ready player has become 2 firsts, a high prospect, and a roster ready player when both the Blues and Washington got two 1sts this year to trade for him. Now, other teams have to try to top that to get Meier.

And for a team like Vegas, who has struggled scoring for stretches, especially on the powerplay where they are 0 for February, bringing in an elite scorer will be astronomically beneficial. Especially since it would make Eichel more useful, as he hasn't had any players that pair with his play style well since Stone's injury (who will be out until playoffs minimum). Meier is exactly the player that Vegas needs, not just to add the scoring he brings, but to add the scoring he'd make his linemates bring.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17 at 9:59 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>The Sens and Leafs trade make sense for Vancouver perhaps but not really for the other team.

Claesson4Norris already mentioned the contract aspect and that OTT is a team that needs help on the right side. Ottawa shouldn't be acquiring an expensive replacement for Norris, since they have internal options already.

The Leafs won't trade Kerfoot for a back up goalie/depth goaltending or an AHL D-man who isn't ready to step in if need be.

Edmonton probably declines as well, as they don't need cap space at this time and they would be selling low on JP. Not sure, where JP would play in Vancouver, if they are trading and replacing Horvat with someone else.</div></div>

I wasn't too sure about what each team would want back. I know that with Norris out and the rumors of Ottawa management looking for more top 9 depth, i figured they wouldn't be super excited about moving their 3c up and opening their depth up to more scrutiny. The Zub situation seems like it's been underreported based on what is likely going on behind the scenes, so I just went with what I have seen about their being potential trade expectations.

The Leafs are a pretty complete team already. They're only real drawback is cap space, which is why I didn't want to give back any cap. They have plenty of defensive depth already, so they don't really need Woo to step in immediately. DiPietro on the other hand may need to step in at some point. With Woll and Murray out, they're one injury away from disaster. They also have one of the weakest goalie pools, so adding something there may be beneficial.