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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
Thread: Trade Muzzin for Larsson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>No, I'm saying that you've got two problems with any Muzzin trade. (This one has a third -- Larsson's NTC -- but that's not important to this discussion.)
(1) Muzzin's NTC.
(2) Muzzin's value to the other team and its cap space.

The general impression is that Muzzin is an Ontario guy and he probably doesn't want to uproot his family unless he's going to go to a contender for the Stanley Cup. Therefore, although this is speculative, the generally-accepted "wisdom" is that Muzzin isn't likely to waive for a bottom-feeder like Anaheim or Arizona or Chicago or Seattle or similar no-hopers. How he would feel about nearby Buffalo or Detroit or Ottawa is unpredictable.

A player can have different value to different teams, and that difference can vary widely. To Toronto, and to a similar contender needing a solid defender (especially one soft at LD), Muzzin is still quite valuable. (My personal opinion is that it would be a serious mistake for Toronto to trade him away because I don't see how you're going to replace him -- in particular, the LD UFAs left are a pretty sorry lot.) But to a team which isn't getting near the playoffs this year and unlikely to make them in 2024, what's the future benefit of having him on the team? Going from 27 wins to 31? So his value to non-contenders is pretty minor compared to his appeal to the contenders.

To me, the most likely scenario is something like the Mrazek transaction, whereby Toronto moves back in the 2023 draft in return for moving Muzzin. But that presupposes Muzzin proves us all wrong and accepts a trade to a team willing to do that and able to afford his cap hit.</div></div>

You make a good argument but I think it might be easier to move Muzzin next year without having to do what we did with Mrazek.

Muzzin has the same Modified NTC that Mrazek has (10 team no-trade list)

However, unlike Mrazek who had a dreadful year last year, Muzzin's performance is typically acceptable. So I think it will be do-able to find a trade with the 21 remaining teams in the NHL by adding a draft pick or a prospect as a sweetener to a Muzzin trade.

The reason that getting rid of the Muzzin contract this year is of some importance is that there is a log jam on the LHD side and Sandin doesn't see a spot for himself to play big minutes in the lineup. We could always get rid of Holl but that doesn't automatically solve the Sandin situation since he's not a RHD.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
Thread: Trade Muzzin for Larsson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>It's not true that players waive their NTCs to go from a contending team to a non-contending team "all the time." I'll bet you can't come up with 3 examples in the last 5 years. Moreover, speaking of bets, if you think that Seattle is going to have a sniff at the playoffs this season or the next, there are a lot of wagers I'd like to place with you.

McDonagh didn't sign his current contract with his current club. Larsson and Muzzin did, when they could have gone anywhere.</div></div>

Okay, you got me, I can't name 3 examples off the top of my head in the last 5 years.

I didn't say Seattle is gonna make the playoffs soon but I think Beniers and Wright are pretty good for them to build around.

So do you think Dubas is stuck keeping Muzzin this year and just move him next year when his NTC becomes a Modified NTC?
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 23, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread: this is what our Kawhi deal equivalent would be
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>I think if offered they'd bring it to Kane and let him make the call on this one. They need to get younger but would respect his decision, and I think he'd waive to be 2.5 hours from home, on a cup contender, playing with the next-gen best American player</div></div>

I agree with you Kane might be all for it but Chicago has their own problems.
(1) They were up against the cap this year and they have a bunch of RFAs to sign (Strome, Kubalik, Dach and Kurashev), which makes it hard for Chicago to retain salary (unless a 3rd team got involved)
(2) Both of their goalies are UFA's this year, so they need to extend them or find replacements.

One thing that might help is that next year they're getting 4.2 million dollars in dead cap off of the books from the money they retained on Fleury and Maata.

TLDR: Chicago has a cap mess on their hands that might make this kind of deal difficult. Although I'd love if this could be pulled off. Kane-Matthews FTW.
Forum: NHL SigningsMar. 30, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Mikko Kokkonen (3 Years / $846,667 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenkins</b></div><div>I see people using Kerfoot as a <em>"throw-in contract</em>" in Armchair GM trades all the time.

And the most common response is <em>"Toronto has to pay to dump Kerfoot's contract"</em>.

<strong>Then I looked at Kerfoot's statistics:</strong>

- <strong>46</strong> points (on pace for 60 point season)
- <strong>42</strong> even-strength points (39th in NHL)
- <strong>03</strong> short-handed points (16th in NHL)
- <strong>2.86</strong> points per 60 mins (35th in NHL)
- <strong>15:10</strong> time on ice (220th FW in NHL)
- <strong>$3,500,000</strong> cap-hit (expires in 2024)
- Kills penalties (third best PK in NHL)
- Gets close to zero power-play time
- Mostly plays in with bottom-sixers

<strong>And realized that the consensus on this website means nothing. </strong></div></div>

This post is straight up GOLD, it really needed to be said.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 4, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.