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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 1:21 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CouldBeKoi</b></div><div>While for fans I think it's an easy no for Zegras, I think the management views him differently. Though I agree that this trade would not happen, I don't think the idea that they wouldn't even take this for Zegras is just not true. Zegras is a very talented and flashy player and he is heavily overrated due to his highlight factor. The ducks already have McTavish and Carlsson down the middle who are both better players long term than Zegras and are more valuable to the core. Additionally Zegras does not fit the greatest in Verbeek's style of play. Likely seattle pick will be around top 10 so it is still fairly high in deeper draft class 1-16. If Verbeek was offered pick 10, 42, 60 and young defenseman who has been progressing well for Zegras I think he would most likely take that package.</div></div>

I’m sorry but whatever sources you have for management’s pov need a complete rinse. You’re speaking like you know ANA but no offense it seems like you’re totally out of the loop (which I don’t blame you for, not sure why anyone other than a sadistic Ducks fan would track this team with how bad we’ve been)

<strong>Coaching’s POV of Zegras:</strong> Cronin and the coaching staff have lauded Zegras all year long. You’d think Z was on an 80 point pace with how they’ve spoken about his talent and impact on the ice for us. Look up any of their comments

<strong>Front office POV of Zegras: </strong>Verbeek has outright said 3 things:
1. We’ve lacked scoring in our top 6 with Z injured
2. He wants us to compete for playoffs next year
3. Zegras has never been shopped at all, and the rumors were purely speculation

Trading Z has a huge negative impact on scoring, his first focus. And a return of draft capital does literally nothing to help this team go from 3rd to last to competing for playoffs next year. A LD who will literally never see the ice will also do no nothing for us (more on this below, but that’s far and away our deepest position)

<strong>His position vs Leo/McT:</strong> He is a C, but you seem unaware that he’s also a #1LW, which we have none of without him. By the time Gauthier is ready (if he pans out) Killorn will be gone and Vatrano long gone. They’re the core top 2 LWs for this team

<strong>Verbeek’s style of play:</strong> They’ve asked Z to play better defense this year. If you’ve watched him play, he’s done exactly that. I’m excited to see how he continues to round out his 200ft game. Moreover, Verbeek has said he needs to see offense from our forwards. Thats Z in a nutshell

<strong>The return:</strong> First of all, SEA is in 12th, not inside the top 10. They’re also within 4 points of being the 17th pick, and didn’t trade away a bunch of assets at the deadline. Not only that, but ANA is looking to end the rebuild now (quoted by mgmt), picks do the opposite. The cherry on top is that a LD has literally no value at all to ANA. Fowler, Mintyukov, Zellweger, Lacombe, Vaakanainen are all fully NHL ready LHD. Hinds and Dionicio are in the pipeline. This could almost not be a less attractive type of return for ANA. A LD we have no spot for and draft capital that both isn’t high end and also won’t benefit the team for years for a young, proven forward that totally fits our window and plays a position of need.

I stand by the POV you will hear unanimously by ANA fans here. This has a zero percent chance of landing Zegras alone, no matter how ‘overrated’ a back-to-back 60pt scorer on his ELC may be
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 10:02 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 3:31 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>If Verbeek's statement is true then fine, but the "speculations" he's talking about are not just from MTL reporters, it was all over the league. Many GMs will say things like that to throw off the sent. He also may want more than what was offered or I'm putting here.. Or like the statement says, blown out of proportions.. We'll know once the season ends and Draft day happens.. Maybe even at TDL next year if they can't come up with a satisfactory number that Zegras will want for many seasons.

But clearly he isn't worth close to even one of Slafkovsky, or Reinbacher + if the rumors were running around about him not being happy with the treatment over his contract. The value drops.

If there is no issue between him and the management then it's a clear no move situation and they'll give him his 12M$+ contract in two years.</div></div>

It was one shmuck with no sources. The same one who last year definitively said Gibby played his last game in ANA. Both Lebrun via 3 sources and Verbeek shot this rumor down. Trading him at all is unrealistic. Discussing this terrible of an offer is time wasted for all of us

Zegras was signed for 3 years, still RFA controlled at the end. You know he won’t be in a contract negotiation for 2 more years right? Can you share why there would be any negotiations at the draft or next TDL?

Clearly not worth it because of the contract negotiation? I’m sorry, please enlighten us how his 3 year contract at sub-$6M negatively impacts ANA leverage in any way. Certainly the opposite. Let’s not pretend like a long negotiation means the two sides don’t want to work together. Ask Willy and Toronto if their bridges are burned

$12M 😂. I’m sorry my guy, but I think you need to brush up on the state of things. You know Elias Pettersson just signed for $11.6M right? Nylander $11.5M. Hell I’ll be stoked if we wind up paying him $12M, it’ll mean he put up 100+pt seasons these next two years cuz that’s the only way anything close to that number gets thrown around