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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 6:13 p.m.
Thread:
Top 9 fixed and playoffs
Ducks decline without batting an eye
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:04 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks looking good down the middle with Macklin
Even in last places there’s a 75% chance you <strong>don’t</strong> land Celebrini. Just ask us in ANA how good those odds are
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:34 p.m.
Thread:
3 years away from 3 years away
lol Zegras for Marner makes less than zero sense for ANA. Easyyy pass
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
Sabres
Owen Power would be awesome. ANA isn’t moving Minty period, and Zegras would take a big time overpay. This isn’t it at all
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:32 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason Deals
Ducks don’t want any of this
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
Cap Space
lol here we go again, Ducks decline
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
leafs
Ducks pass but maybe someone will take him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:21 p.m.
Thread:
Back to the playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CouldBeKoi</b></div><div>While for fans I think it's an easy no for Zegras, I think the management views him differently. Though I agree that this trade would not happen, I don't think the idea that they wouldn't even take this for Zegras is just not true. Zegras is a very talented and flashy player and he is heavily overrated due to his highlight factor. The ducks already have McTavish and Carlsson down the middle who are both better players long term than Zegras and are more valuable to the core. Additionally Zegras does not fit the greatest in Verbeek's style of play. Likely seattle pick will be around top 10 so it is still fairly high in deeper draft class 1-16. If Verbeek was offered pick 10, 42, 60 and young defenseman who has been progressing well for Zegras I think he would most likely take that package.</div></div>
I’m sorry but whatever sources you have for management’s pov need a complete rinse. You’re speaking like you know ANA but no offense it seems like you’re totally out of the loop (which I don’t blame you for, not sure why anyone other than a sadistic Ducks fan would track this team with how bad we’ve been)
<strong>Coaching’s POV of Zegras:</strong> Cronin and the coaching staff have lauded Zegras all year long. You’d think Z was on an 80 point pace with how they’ve spoken about his talent and impact on the ice for us. Look up any of their comments
<strong>Front office POV of Zegras: </strong>Verbeek has outright said 3 things:
1. We’ve lacked scoring in our top 6 with Z injured
2. He wants us to compete for playoffs next year
3. Zegras has never been shopped at all, and the rumors were purely speculation
Trading Z has a huge negative impact on scoring, his first focus. And a return of draft capital does literally nothing to help this team go from 3rd to last to competing for playoffs next year. A LD who will literally never see the ice will also do no nothing for us (more on this below, but that’s far and away our deepest position)
<strong>His position vs Leo/McT:</strong> He is a C, but you seem unaware that he’s also a #1LW, which we have none of without him. By the time Gauthier is ready (if he pans out) Killorn will be gone and Vatrano long gone. They’re the core top 2 LWs for this team
<strong>Verbeek’s style of play:</strong> They’ve asked Z to play better defense this year. If you’ve watched him play, he’s done exactly that. I’m excited to see how he continues to round out his 200ft game. Moreover, Verbeek has said he needs to see offense from our forwards. Thats Z in a nutshell
<strong>The return:</strong> First of all, SEA is in 12th, not inside the top 10. They’re also within 4 points of being the 17th pick, and didn’t trade away a bunch of assets at the deadline. Not only that, but ANA is looking to end the rebuild now (quoted by mgmt), picks do the opposite. The cherry on top is that a LD has literally no value at all to ANA. Fowler, Mintyukov, Zellweger, Lacombe, Vaakanainen are all fully NHL ready LHD. Hinds and Dionicio are in the pipeline. This could almost not be a less attractive type of return for ANA. A LD we have no spot for and draft capital that both isn’t high end and also won’t benefit the team for years for a young, proven forward that totally fits our window and plays a position of need.
I stand by the POV you will hear unanimously by ANA fans here. This has a zero percent chance of landing Zegras alone, no matter how ‘overrated’ a back-to-back 60pt scorer on his ELC may be
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Thu. at 3:24 a.m.
Thread:
This Summer
In no world would ANA be trading Leo right now. This is a big fat nope
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:22 a.m.
Thread:
trade deadline
ANA counters with a ‘26 1st for Matthews
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:19 a.m.
Thread:
Back to the playoffs
That’s a very easy decline for ANA
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 6:32 p.m.
Thread:
next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>The one point I would like to suggest to this thread is compare each players college and NDTP numbers. Not saying one is better than the other but that should give you and idea of what could be the case. nothing is guaranteed but thats the best way to compare the two.</div></div>
The best way to compare Leonard to the NHL is by looking at similar producing NCAA comps, but I wouldn’t restrict that to a one-man sample. Meanwhile, there’s really no reason to compare Zegras to anyone based on NCAA performance at this point. He has 3 seasons under his belt, his NHL performance will be the best way to project the kind of player he is long term
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 10:02 a.m.
Thread:
ZEGRAS TRADE AT 6TH OVERALL PICK OF THE DRAFT PLUS OFFSEASON KNIGHT TRADE
A version of this trade has honestly been proposed by a Habs fan somewhere close to 100 times in the last few months. And by this trade I mean ‘24 MTL 1st, Harris, Yllonen. For the 101st time (sorry for the snark but not sure why we’re still doing this):
Harris - less than zero interest in ANA
Yllonen - less than zero interest
MTL ‘24 1st - very attractive
MTL ‘25 1st - very attractive but likely overkill on value
Drop the uninteresting prospects, add someone like Beck/Mesar, lose the second first rounder and at least the value is right with pieces ANA would care about
Even still, the trade is highly unlikely for 3 reasons:
1. Verbeek wants to compete for playoffs next year and has talked about adding a bonafide top 6 wing. Any Zegras trade is a big step back in an area he already feels we’re shorthanded
2. The only players Verbeek would likely consider this for at 6th are probably gone or MTL would just prefer to draft them (Lev and Lindstrom)
3. You’re trading for a player that isn’t available. Lebrun dispelled the rumor like a month ago based on multiple inside sources (something the original rumor lacked) and Verbeek outright said the same in an interview this past week
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 3:11 a.m.
Thread:
finding a number 1 center
I don’t see Leonard in the Zegras offer, so ANA doesn’t even consider moving their young stud that isn’t available. Not interested in moving Leonard for him? Super understandable. You just won’t see Zegras playing for WAS
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 11 at 3:50 p.m.
Thread:
Zegras 25
Ducks counter with the ‘24 EDM 1st for Konecny
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 11 at 3:31 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>If Verbeek's statement is true then fine, but the "speculations" he's talking about are not just from MTL reporters, it was all over the league. Many GMs will say things like that to throw off the sent. He also may want more than what was offered or I'm putting here.. Or like the statement says, blown out of proportions.. We'll know once the season ends and Draft day happens.. Maybe even at TDL next year if they can't come up with a satisfactory number that Zegras will want for many seasons.
But clearly he isn't worth close to even one of Slafkovsky, or Reinbacher + if the rumors were running around about him not being happy with the treatment over his contract. The value drops.
If there is no issue between him and the management then it's a clear no move situation and they'll give him his 12M$+ contract in two years.</div></div>
It was one shmuck with no sources. The same one who last year definitively said Gibby played his last game in ANA. Both Lebrun via 3 sources and Verbeek shot this rumor down. Trading him at all is unrealistic. Discussing this terrible of an offer is time wasted for all of us
Zegras was signed for 3 years, still RFA controlled at the end. You know he won’t be in a contract negotiation for 2 more years right? Can you share why there would be any negotiations at the draft or next TDL?
Clearly not worth it because of the contract negotiation? I’m sorry, please enlighten us how his 3 year contract at sub-$6M negatively impacts ANA leverage in any way. Certainly the opposite. Let’s not pretend like a long negotiation means the two sides don’t want to work together. Ask Willy and Toronto if their bridges are burned
$12M 😂. I’m sorry my guy, but I think you need to brush up on the state of things. You know Elias Pettersson just signed for $11.6M right? Nylander $11.5M. Hell I’ll be stoked if we wind up paying him $12M, it’ll mean he put up 100+pt seasons these next two years cuz that’s the only way anything close to that number gets thrown around
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 11 at 12:52 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason Moves
lol wtf. You know Zegras has never been shopped right? Like at all. We counter with a ‘25 1st for caufield IF and only IF MTL doesn’t get back what they want for him 😂
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Mar. 10 at 4:44 p.m.
Thread:
Playoff year 2024-2025
You gotta do even just a smidge of research on the other team. ANA’s deepest position is either LD or goalie. The only piece in a position of interest is Joseph, and yuck. You’d need to conpleyely wipe this and try again. The piece we’d want is Tkachuk (we’d have to add of course)
If playoffs are the goal then maybe something around the ‘24 OTT 1st if Lev or Lindstrom are available, but Verbeek also said he wants to see ANA pushing for playoffs next year. And frankly I assume OTT just prefers to make the draft pick
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 10 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread:
Who stays and who leaves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kurvaux</b></div><div>Why give up assets to dump Orlov when we can just not resign Skjei and bump Orlov up to 2nd pair? I like this otherwise</div></div>
Curious as an ANA fan who doesn’t watch a ton of CAR games. What’re your thoughts on Pesce? From what I’ve watched I really like the game he plays, he’s been my hope for an ANA big acquisition this offseason
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 10 at 2:11 p.m.
Thread:
Who stays and who leaves
ANA might be the least likely team in the NJL to add a LD
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 10:39 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 24-25
Ducks pass, but maybe someone in the league will take him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 10:37 p.m.
Thread:
ZEGRAS TRADE AT 6TH OVERALL PICK OF THE DRAFT PLUS OFFSEASON KNIGHT TRADE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nilees24</b></div><div>It's an overpayment for Zegras and Anaheim ends up with 2 top-6 picks in this draft. Very reasonable</div></div>
Just realized I said Fowler instead of Zegras 🤦♂️
I admitted it’s enough value despite the 2 prospects being irrelevant. But Verbeek is talking about competing next year. I’m just not sure you consider trading one of if not the best offensive player on your team for draft capital when your goal is to compete, and your team has struggled to score goals
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 9:15 p.m.
Thread:
ZEGRAS TRADE AT 6TH OVERALL PICK OF THE DRAFT PLUS OFFSEASON KNIGHT TRADE
Zero interest in Harris or Yllonen. 6th OA + ‘25 1st has to be enough value. That said, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Verbeek doesn’t want to trade Zegras, and this trade isn’t a good move for MTL. I just don’t see Z going anywhere
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 8:40 p.m.
Thread:
First Look at the Off Season
My dream scenario: Sign Pesce and an elite RW, draft Lev (assuming we don’t hit the lotto), trade Fowler
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 5:38 p.m.
Thread:
Building around Bedard next year
Not in ANA’s interest to trade Zegras and not in Chicago’s to move all those assets
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