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Jimbo1119

Jimbo1119
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Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
Thread: Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WalterT</b></div><div>I think we all need to accept that he's not going anywhere right now. He's got to get on the ice and prove he's healthy to get a team to offer the price Buffslo wants, and I don't think Adsms will accept a lesser deal.</div></div>

This is true...but to get on the ice he needs surgery to his neck. Unless BUF has a change of heart in terms of letting him get the procedure he wants- this is the crux of the matter. The physical therapy did not fix the issue...so it's artificial disk surgery- which Eichel wants, and he'll possibly be on the ice 6-8 weeks...or neck fusion- the traditional method to fix this problem- maybe he'd be back on the ice 6-8 months. So it's a matter of who blinks first....if BUF doesn't look to cut their losses and pass the situation on to another team- which for obvious reasons would require a steep discount.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 4:14 pm
Thread: Half
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMac66</b></div><div>Maybe so, but show me a situation where any team has retained over 2m for over 2 years and I can see how it can be done... but it hasn't and it never will. Because any owner would throw up at the thought of retaining 25 million dollars over 5 years. It's comical the rumour even started. If the injury was really that bad, the Rangers would not be still hot to acquire him.</div></div>

Not dismissing your point regarding owners' willingness to retain salary....but show me a situation where a team has traded a boatload of high end assets for the right to pay the return player 50 million over 5 years...where they know going into it that the player has to have neck surgery.

Point is - this is a very complicated trade situation. I really don't have the answer- don't think anyone here does. But the longer it goes the less leverage BUF has. But as far as the Rangers being hot to acquire him- the Rangers are one of a small handful of teams which have the assets to provide and the salary structure to make this sort of deal...but the reward has to outweigh the potential risk-like any trade- yet for the obvious reasons this trade is complicated to put the risk/reward into acceptable range on both sides of the trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 9:44 am
Thread: opening night lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheDime99</b></div><div>I honestly woukdnt be too upset if this is how we go into next season id prefer to switch Chytil and Strome but thats about it</div></div>

The way the sky has been falling in Rangerland recently- I actually can live with this lineup....there are still a dominos to fall, though- whatever happens with the Eichel situation, a Zib extension (or not), and Strome will affect this lineup. BTW- I think Strome will be moved...but if he's still here Id leave him at 2C (with AP) and Chytl at 3C, for the better matchups there- to at least start the season. Also gonna be interesting to see what effect Gallant has on Gaut- if his game looks a little "Tuch like" then he'll force his way in...then the decision- who sits?
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 9:22 am
Thread: sorry Buffalo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NeedTheCleanser</b></div><div>People thinking that a strongly worded letter is going to tank Eichels value are living in fantasy land. Leverage this and temperature that…. At the end of the day the Sabres have the leverage bc Jack Eichel is under contract for 5 more years.

It looks like Adams will legit have him sit out before they get taken in a trade like this, especially in the conference.</div></div>

A strongly worded letter...usually have to take with a grain of salt since it's part of the negotiation process. But in this statement there is an admission that the "conservative approach" isn't working and that a surgical procedure will be required- this is the crux of the matter...traditional procedure? or the procedure Eichel wants? Unless another team is 100% on board with the procedure Eichel wants (which would make him the 1st NHLer with this surgery) then what GM of sound mind would be willing to "cave in" to Adams' demands- only to assume his argument with Eichel?
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 8:38 pm
Thread: Games Against Washington
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>XBestOneYetX</b></div><div>The Buch trade was bad, I won't deny it... but Adams hasn't traded Eichel yet so I wouldn't be so fast to talk to about bad deals as there aren't many teams that can take Eichel unless the Sabres agree to retain salary. Adams overplayed his hand and should never have kept Eichel past the draft. Also Tinordi is only in the lineup to fight Wilson! Let's get that straight ha.</div></div>

No doubt- everything about the Buch trade was/is disappointing...and for that to be one of Drury's first big decisions did't help. But there are a lot of questions we'll never have an answer to: mainly how far apart were he and NYR; and what other offers were out there for Buch- who was arb eligible, coming off a big year, and able to go UFA in a year. As far as the return- Blais is no Buch- but many hockey guys think he can be a real contributor- and may have another gear in what he brings. And the 2nd round pick (should they keep it) may very well be a pick in the 40's or 50's in a supposedly very deep draft.
As far as Tinordi- the guy really isn't an NHL player...when NYR play Wash opening night in addition to the new guys, Kreider, Trouba, and Lindgren will be playing...hopefully along with Goodrow and Blais the physical component is already in the lineup...otherwise dress Tinordi as a 7D and go with 11F in games where his presence is needed...Hopefully his services are better put to use in Hartford as a protective measure for our youngins who we need to develop in what can be a bloodbath in the AHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 24 at 9:17
Thread: Im sad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>1. Traded buch for some garbage
2. Drafted another LW when we have panarin, lafreniere, kreider and goodrow
3. And this is only the beginning he’d have to do some crazy stuff to make rangers fans happy after this</div></div>

1.Agreed- should have gotten a better return for Buch...but who knows what the market really is for an RFA with arb rights- coming off a year of bloated #'s due to so many games playing bottom feeders? And he can go UFA in a year.
2. Everyone's gotta take a chill regarding this pick...not like Othmann was that much of a reach (if a reach at all)...sure the NYR need C's....but in a draft in which probably not 1 player will start in NHL next year, any C picked at 15OA is at least 2-3 years out from NHL. But what has everyone crazy is the Ranger's desire to accumulate grit....and I do get it- talent is way more important than grit- but you have to admit: against the GOOD teams the past 2 years the Rangers have had no push back. And I don't mean fighting. In games against quality teams- who take space away- the Ranger's fancy talented guys have consistently come up empty...goes back much further than the games vs Isles last year or the fiasco with the Caps.
3. You're probably 100% on here...but I wouldn't be surprised if Drury makes a move or 2 which makes the fanbase even crazier!
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 15 at 9:12
Thread: More good deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>The reason why Lou is trying to trade Leddy now is because he doesn’t want to lose him for nothing in the expansion draft. Even in a worst case scenario buying out Leddy (4.6 mill in savings) makes more sense than taking back maata.</div></div>

If you're seeing zero value in Maatta then I see your point...I just think that him coming back with 1/2 retained still provides a tangible benefit as 6 or 7D...plus you get the prospect and another pick. Of course a buyout is an option- but I'd only use that option in the case where you can't get any assets back- or might even have to sweeten to move....shouldn't be the case with Leddy. But also keep in mind- a buyout provides a substantial savings this year- but ties up more than 2M next year.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 15 at 8:24
Thread: More good deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Leddy is not a cap dump - they can trade him without taking back a contract</div></div>

If the Isles do have to trade him...and Lou can pull that off- then kudos to the organization. I just think it's gonna be a lot tougher than most think because many are making the assumption that Seattle will take a team's "good" player off their hands along with the corresponding cap hit. Given the flat cap situation I wouldn't be surprised to see Francis choose some teams' cheaper players- so that after the exp draft several teams will be in panic mode because they need to shed anywhere between 4 and 10M. At this point he will circle the wagons and rake in as many 2022 picks- supposedly a very deep draft- as possible.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 15 at 5:45
Thread: Sorry Avs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WuWuWuKennyWu</b></div><div>The most faceoffs Kreider has ever taken in a season is 120. In the past four years the least amount of faceoffs Landeskog has taken was 418, with the most being 693. This year Landeskog was 2nd on the Avs in faceoffs taken. It's not so much his faceoff percentage as it is the sheer amount of faceoffs he's taken that make me believe he's played center for at least a handful of games per season, and it's not just "set plays in the offensive zone" the Avs fan said it was.</div></div>

Getting in a pissing contest with Avs fans as to how their team uses their player is probably a waste of time...as far as Kreider- my mention of him was just to further the point that a good center ice man
is not based on faceoff %- but a number of factors- among which faceoff % is a minimal consideration (unless it is abysmal). As far as chasing Landeskog goes- the Rangers are in a unique situation in that they are one of the few teams not in an immediate cap crunch....thus they are in a position where they can take advantage of one of several teams which have little time to get themselves under the cap next year. Ron Francis realizes this and will not bail out any of these teams without a BIG sweetener. NYR should do the same- yet chasing guys like Landeskog will prevent them from being able to take advantage of the current opportunity.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 14 at 11:46
Thread: Adding Graves and Reaves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chrisdouglasavs19</b></div><div>No shot Graves is protected - Makar, Girard, Toews.</div></div>

Unless they protect 4F and 4D. Whichever way you shake it they are gonna lose a good (but not great) player. If they go 4/4 then Graves protected- but they lose 1 of Burakowski/Jost/Donskoi/Nichuskin....if they go 7/3 then one of those forwards will still be available as well as Graves. Since they are damned if they do/damned if they don't, I doubt they will make any deals- unless they receive a good player who doesn't need to be protected (don't think those are the guys who will be dealt leading up to the exp draft)...and because the players they would look to protect are not great players- I doubt you could get the Avs to pony up in any deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 14 at 7:07
Thread: Sorry Avs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WuWuWuKennyWu</b></div><div>Just looking at his faceoff stats and he's like 3rd on the team these past four years in faceoffs taken. If it was only a handful you'd think it's mostly when the center gets thrown out of the circle. With the amount he's taken, there is no way he hasn't played center a good amount of games.</div></div>

Chris Kreider I believe is also good on face offs- but he is by no means a C...Lots of people seem to place a lot of emphasis on faceoff %....I'm not saying it's totally irrelevant- for instance Chytl does have to get better if he has any ambitions to be a 2C in this league- but other things are so much more important...vision, reads, and anticipation on the ice, and defensive assignments- just to name a few. All in all I think the Landeskog move is a bad idea- lot of money and term to a guy with mileage on him. Deals like this will create a narrow contention window and most likely a buyout situation a few years from now...NO THANKS. Much better use of their capspace for this year is to weaponize it...lots of teams will be looking to clear out 4-6M in cap space this year- and I doubt Seattle helps any of them out...if the Rangers play their cards right here they may obtain a useful 3rd or 4th liner (which they need for the short term anyway) and in the process gain additional picks in the loaded 2022 draft.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 9 at 4:30
Thread: Explaining every move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vosse9</b></div><div>Sounds like they may wait for the second window just in case they make a trade and need him to be compliant with expansion rules. I loved his edge too. Quinn mismanaged that whole thing from the start of the season. He took a stupid penalty for slamming the door but they had zero emotion that game and got ran over by the Isles in the season opener. Scratching him for two games was bull****. Quinn also didn’t give him much chance on the left side with Trouba. That’s where they need a vet this year. Faux outrage against him for his political views but that’s the world we live in. Hope he gets his career restarted somewhere else</div></div>

Agreed on all points…my gut tells me ALL the outrage against him is due to his political views- which he will not relent on…some of the outrage is claimed for him being a “bad guy” since his youth….but if there were so many problems with his character why would JG commit 9M over 2 years? A little more had to have happened between contract signing and his blackballing…maybe once he’s bought out we’ll find out a bit more..,but I do think for sure a team will get a real bargain with him and he will be a real good citizen while he tries to rub the Rangers’ nose in the “mistake” they made with him.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 8 at 11:37
Thread: Explaining every move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vosse9</b></div><div>I would love him back and I think Gallant would like his style in the lineup. 24 hour buyout window could start after tonight if Tampa wins. Most NY writers think he’s getting bought out then</div></div>

Can’t see what the rush would be to buy him out before the exp draft….I’ve always been a supporter of the edge he brings to the lineup. But wIth the info available on him at the time he was traded to the Rangers and the recent events which include him challenging a fan to a fight through social media…he is a difficult guy to defend even though there is very little confirmed info out there as to what he did to get kicked off the team. At this point NYR would just do best by moving on….JG’s poor asset management killed any value they could have received for him…and the right side of their D seems to be loaded up anyway…and the distraction which would be generated around him would probably outweigh the positive contribution he could make in playing.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 6 at 9:19
Thread: Cap hell
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>I really hope we send a big package to trade up and take Mason McTavish. I feel like he’s gonna be great.</div></div>

I don't know much about McTavish- other than seeing his name mentioned a lot...If they do even keep the pick- and there is a player who they have done their diligence on who is available and they have the ability to move up to pick...then hey, why not? I just think that this is a tough year for that. Supposed to be a weak draft to begin with and I'm guessing that due to the pandemic the scouting for this draft was not up to the usual....and for this reason is it worth trading up? BTW 2022 supposed to be a great draft...any moves the Rangers make- if they could get more picks in that draft would probably be a good move.