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Joe_La_Garnotte

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Forum: NHL TradesJul. 27, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
Thread: (CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shock</b></div><div>So if TKACHUK resigned with Calgary before the trade, does it mean Calgary paid that $8M signing bonus?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>dont think so. he'd lose a lot of money in taxes that way.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Only way it'd work if it was a true sign and trade. Calgary paid his signing bonus</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>not necessarily. as long as he was on the panthers roster by 5pm est then they are on the hook.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Yeah, but he signed the contract with Calgary. As soon as he signed that contract, he would receive the signing bonus (for signing the contract).</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>not 100% sure that's how it works. i thinking it might just be due by the end of the day. but if it was payed by calgary it would explain the return better.</div></div>

You don't need to pay the signing bonus, on the 1st day of the contract. Kovalchuk had 2 payments of "signing bonus" in year 2 on his contract with L.A. They can make that payment on a day that they negotiate (most often July 1st) but not always
Forum: NHL TradesJul. 17, 2022 at 7:05 a.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL) - Matheson for Petry, Poehling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>People on twitter were asking for the moon. Because those ppl are supposed to present the rationale folks here.

I saw maybe 1 person on here overvalue Petry. Most Habs fans here got this right.
He wasnt a cap dump, there was no money retained and they got a cheap asset to flip down the line.
I argued for weeks here that Petry had value when ppl were attaching picks to dump him and saying they wouldnt want his contract as it would be an anchor.
Hughes somehow got value when Petry demanded a trade and in a tight cap market where the Sharks retained 30% salary on Burns.
Habs fans here, once again, take the W on capfriendly.</div></div>

Yeah sometimes a few people sounds like the majority, but on the radio and podcast most people knew he was a cap dump
Forum: NHL TradesJun. 18, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
Forum: NHL SigningsMar. 21, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.
Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Jesperi Kotkaniemi (8 Years / $4,820,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>Carolina's trying to save their face after that whole mess of an offersheet. KK didn't play like he deserved the length, the money and certainly not a 10 team NTC but he had them by the balls with his 6M$ qualifying offer. Oh and it's backloaded making it basically buyout and trade away proof.
Dundon should certainly consider this whole mess when going to the table for his next contract negotiation.

As per puckmedia that's the money rollout:
Yr 1 4M
Yr 2 4.5M
Yr 3 4.82M
Yr 4 4.82M
Yr 5 4.82M
Yr 6 5.2M
Yr 7 5.2M
Yr 8 5.2M

All salary, 10 team No Trade List in UFA Years</div></div>

Teams save more money on buyout when the deal is backloaded. This is why players prefer frontloaded contracts.