JonnyLamoriello

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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: Here kitty

Palmieri doesn’t have negative value. He could likely fetch a 6th or 7th round pick. I don’t think you have to give Nashville a 2nd round pick to take him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 12:06 a.m.

Thread: Cat and keep Wahlstrom

I dig this as an isles fan but send ishakov back down. Now you have $2m in cap. Move engvall to LW. Sign or trade for a cheap 3c… maybe Seattle could send us a 3c back in the trade for palmieri, if we offer a pick too…

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2023 at 8:46 a.m.

Thread: meow

After the way Lou praised the fourth line about their playoff performance, i don’t see him moving clutter. The eye test to me personally says it’s time to shake it up if we need the cap space. But Lou won’t move clutter. Just don’t see it.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 22, 2022 at 5:47 p.m.

Thread: No idea what Im actually doing here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warpbox</b></div><div>I know we aren’t getting Dobson. We need something one capable in their own zone. Ideally someone who can move the puck but that’s not the important thing. We need someone that can let Quinn Hughes be Quinn Hughes, and Barrie ain’t it</div></div>

Point out who that player can be, that is actually potentially available. I'm thinking a 3-team trade is the only way that a deal gets done with Isles and VAN. Unless you guys want Beauvilier. I don't see Lou trading his top prospects of Raty / Dufour.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 22, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.

Thread: No idea what Im actually doing here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warpbox</b></div><div>Canucks tell you to F*** off, we don’t want Barrie</div></div>

You don't want a puck moving defenseman who can put up actual points? Which RD man would you want that has been linked to any actual real trade rumors? Dobson was never available, and is going to be on the Isles a long long time.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 18, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.

Thread: Back to the drawing board

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Why would a team trade for a player if they won’t succeed in their system? Maybe they should fire Trotz because he’s making the Isles an offensive blackhole</div></div>

You should not be making trades on capfriendly if you don’t know that trotz was already fired.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 18, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.

Thread: Back to the drawing board

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>99 points is pretty darn good. Almost double the Isles leasing point scorer last year. He’s worth more than a first and some middling pieces</div></div>

This is not really apples to apples. Miller in a trotz system would not put up 99 points.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 18, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.

Thread: Back to the drawing board

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>A trade would most likely be 1st, 2nd, Dufor.</div></div>

Dufour just got promoted to canadas first line in WJ.

Guy is playing rly well. He’s going to be a solid nhler, i believe.

If want dufour, have to remove the 2nd, would think.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 17, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

Thread: Miller Kadri Milano

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>While Vegas is a team with limited leverage, so are the Islanders who are trying to desperately free up space for a big move. I think a 2nd or 3rd is fine. His cap hit is also not great, so if they want a 1st from a team then they need to retain 50%. Not sure that still makes it happen.</div></div>

My two arguments are:
1) Vegas is going to LTIR lehners $5m, so why does it matter if Vegas takes the full $5m or $2.5m? It’s a one year deal anyways.

2) trading varly to Vegas would simply be to get the 1st rounder to then flip to Vancouver for Miller. This isn’t for cap dump. The cap dump would be beauvilier to Montreal. We only take Jake allen back in that trade if Vegas agrees to give isles the first for varly…

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 12, 2022 at 8:23 a.m.

Thread: Varly to Vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>”Thompson is possibly their number 1 as it is, they're not trading him, let alone giving away Hague for a rental goalie and an average defenseman they don't need.”

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Thompson has literally 20 NHL games under his belt. Varly is a proven veteran who has averaged strong numbers his entire career. Most people feel it will take a first round pick to get him away from the islanders.

You’re vastly undervaluing varlamov in this trade. He could also be extended likely around 3x$2.5m.</div></div>

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 12, 2022 at 8:11 a.m.

Thread: Varly to Vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Zero chance the Knights do that.</div></div>

Let’s see how Vegas looks 20 games in. You’re taking a massive gamble not having a true #1.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 11, 2022 at 10:36 p.m.

Thread: if he wants Kadri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>earl08</b></div><div>I think VGK fine rolling with Logan Thompson and they don't have space for Varly. Buffalo might be interested...</div></div>

This is incorrect. Lehner is going on LTIR for the full year. Lehner is $5M. Varly is $5M. You have the exact cap space for Varly. And he is a UFA next summer, allowing you to slot Lehner back in for the 23-24 season.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.

Thread: Anthony Beauvillier

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>The isles told Bailey that they working on trading him</div></div>

Link to them “telling Bailey”?

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.

Thread: Girard in - beau and pageau out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>Personally, I don't think the Avs should trade Girard for a guy like Pageau - he's a somewhat better version of Compher but makes $1.5M more and is about to turn 30. If he were a steady 45-55 point guy with plus possession stats and were a few years younger, then it's worth considering .</div></div>

I think on COL he easily hits 40-50 pts.
Can’t help ya on age or salary though! :)

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2022 at 12:45 a.m.

Thread: Girard in - beau and pageau out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanleysCup22</b></div><div>You're at least $1,000,000 short on Dobson, Kadri and Romanov.</div></div>

No. I actually think Romanov is going to come in for less. They’re bridge deals. But I’m not sure Lou does the bridge deals. Will see. And i think Kadri gets $7m max cause no one is really competing w isles for 5-6 years.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 11:13 p.m.

Thread: Girard in - beau and pageau out

Piggy backing off a recent trade proposal a COL fan just made, im showing it from isles side.

What i realized upon trading beau is that the isles are very thin on LW

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 11:12 p.m.

Thread: Lines with Kadri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>I know a lot of fans who wouldn't renew their ticket plans because the isles are becoming a country club for washed up vets. I personally haven't gone to a game since they signed Chara, UBS should be empty if this organization keeps making Milbury-eque moves like trading Toews and Beauvillier.</div></div>

I didn’t renew. Not when tix are 10% the price on StubHub. Was section 308.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.

Thread: Lines with Kadri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>If Beauvillier got traded to fit in Kadri, the most likely outcome will be Kadri falling off a cliff and only putting up 40-45 pts. Beau would break out and put up 55-60 pts on his new team.</div></div>

Accurate

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.

Thread: We done or no

I’m a supporter of the pageau for girard. Even did this trade myself but didn’t include the 2nd.

Isles still have to find a way to also ship out Josh Bailey, in order for them to fit Kadri.

There are most people just assuming that if pageau gets traded, he goes for cap space, to sign Kadri.

We will see. It’s a lot to expect Lou to move two players of significance in Bailey AND pageau. But for them to do this trade, that would be the requirement. Teams like ANA or OTT could fit Bailey.

It can also be beauvilier and pageau. But I’ll be pissed if it is.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.

Thread: Lines with Kadri

Yeah, good chance this is how it goes down but I’ll be really bummed if they trade beau over bailey.

Would also love the room for sonny milano, which they can also do if they trade Bailey $5m instead of beaus $4m.

But all in all, accurate

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.

Thread: Going All in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>If you can’t even be bothered to read the above argument, then it’s clearly not worth my time arguing with you.</div></div>

K. Let's revisit this once he's dealt.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 7:37 p.m.

Thread: Nazem Kadri

That Detroit trade is horrific.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 7:34 p.m.

Thread: Going All in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Do you want me to give you a list of significantly worse players that received a first round pick and more at the deadline as rentals? Ok fine

Ben Chiarot: overrated second/third pair d man that has terrible analytics
Return: first round pick, fourth round pick, prospect

David Savard: another second/third pair d man
Return: first round pick, third round pick

Nick Foligno: bottom six veteran with limited to no offensive production
Return: first round pick, fourth round pick

Claude Giroux: older vet, still top 6 material but not nearly as good as Miller
Return: first round pick, solid prospect +

Andrew Copp: solid middle six center, not nearly as good as Miller
Return: prospect, two second round picks, one of which ended up becoming a first round pick

Think you’ve had enough? Not a single one of those players are nearly as good as Miller, yet they all fetched around the same value you have proposed. Do you see how silly it is to say that’s fair value now? Now you say if he slightly declined, he can’t even fetch a first round pick? Give your head a shake</div></div>

2023 draft has higher talent than 2022.
Again, you'd be getting a draft pick in the 20's if waiting until the deadline, but you can take that chance in something higher with isles now if you feel they're not a playoff team.
You're discounting the trade value of Pageau.

You'll *probably still get the first at the deadline if production dips noticeably, but what else are you expecting? Why not take the Isles first now and get it over with?
I can assure you that VAN fans are going to be extremely upset with the return for Miller, when it happens...
He's not extending in VAN, and everyone knows that. It takes away leverage. Very few teams can afford him right now cap-wise. And I'd hate to see VAN fighting closely for a playoff spot and then be put in a position to trade away a very good player right in the thick of it.

Just curious, what are VAN's biggest holes right now in your opinion? We know you want a RHD. Dobson isn't for sale. What else?

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 7:24 p.m.

Thread: Going All in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>To your first point, most things you just said about Pageau, Bjorkstrand can do better. Give me some good reasons why the Canucks would want a 29 year old 5 million dollar center that does not produce many points.</div></div>

Also - better hope that Miller performs close to his 99 point season (and stays healthy) if you're going to hold on to him until the trade deadline... Can you count on both of those things to be the case? Decline in production and that first becomes a second. I feel like the Isles are 1 of a very very few teams who can even take on Miller's contract right now from the start of the season...

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.

Thread: Step Forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Did they go up? Or r we basing this on the unsubstantiated JVR rumors?</div></div>

JVR rumors + Oliver trade. Quality sources reported JVR first round pick rumors were true though.

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