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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 20, 2022 at 12:36 p.m.
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Forum: NHL TradesJan. 24, 2022 at 7:10 p.m.
For those of you who aren't football fans... The Ricky Williams trade was a trade between the New Orleans Saints and Washington Redskins of the National Football League (NFL), which occurred prior to the 1999 NFL Draft. Mike Ditka who at the time was the head coach of the Saints wanted to move up in the draft order from the 12th overall pick to ensure that he would be able to select Ricky Williams from the University of Texas at Austin. To do so, the Saint traded every pick they had in the draft, plus two of their first three picks in the 2000 NFL Draft, for the fifth overall pick, with which it selected Williams. The trade was as follow:

Traded to New Orleans

1999 first round pick (5th overall, Ricky Williams)

Traded to Washington
1999 first round pick (12th overall, later traded to Chicago, used to select Cade McNown)
1999 third round pick (71st overall, later traded to Chicago, used to select D'Wayne Bates)
1999 fourth round pick (107th overall, used to select Nate Stimson)
1999 fifth round pick (144th overall, later traded to Chicago, used to select Khari Samuel)
1999 sixth round pick (179th overall, later traded to Denver, used to select Desmond Clark)
1999 seventh round pick (218th overall, later traded to Denver, used to select Billy Miller)
2000 first round pick (2nd overall, used to select LaVar Arrington)
2000 third round pick (64th overall, used to select Lloyd Harrison)

Here's my question.. how many players today if any would you pull the "Ricky Williams" trade for aka 8 picks (2 1sts, 2 3rds (or 1 2nd 1 3rd for arguments sake) and then 4th-7th), and how many teams would actually say yes?

My short list of players who would be worth it:
McDavid
Matthews
Makar
MacKinnon
and MAYBE Bedard for the #1 overall pick.

and honestly idk if any of those teams (EDM, COL, TOR) would say yes.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2022 at 6:19 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2022 at 6:12 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>There's been a lot of Zucker debate here as of late, but the Pens don't have to add crazy assets like that to move him. He's been playing great hockey, his scoring is finally starting to come and only has one year left. The Pens are better off holding him this year unless the right deal comes up, and waiting until the off-season to reevaluate what to do.</div></div>

I don't think anyone on this thread understands 1. the cap 2. leverage. First of all, saying Zucker's scoring is finally starting to come around? Dude has 3 goals in his las 20 games... but that's besides the point. If the Pens want to stay competitive they only have 33 mil in space to resign Geno (or an equivalent), Rust (or an equivalent), Letang (or an equivalent) each of those players or their replacements costs at least 6.5-8 AAV - so there's 19.5-24 of the space gone and that's before replacing/upgrading Carter, a backup goalie, and the entire bottom 6.

So again, i'm not saying Zucker is terrible I'm saying literally what leverage does Pitt have for a soon to be 31 year old, scoring at 4th line rates making 5.5? The answer is none. There isn't going to be a bidding war for Zucker. If the Pens decide they don't want to attach assets to move him.. fine that's a different thing, but he's not a player anyone is paying the Penguins for and frankly any team would be foolish to give any assets to them to take Zucker, Matheson, Petterson or any player that opens up cap space for them.