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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 7:23 p.m.
Thread: Bolts
Uhhhhhh
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 2:15 a.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>I dont necessarily disagree, by game 20 I wanted to trade Stamkos and Hedman to salvage the future and tank for one of Lindstrom or Catton this year but that was obviously a pipedream. I just cant see JBB letting stamkos go without starting negotiations. At least with killorn he was offered something, imagine if youre stamkos and you wanted to sign an extension last summer and they told you no and instead extended hagel and then they traded for someone at the TDL before you were supposed to start negotiations and you are basically forced to leave, the optics are terrible.</div></div>

Well I’d be open to a extension around 4 mil but I don’t think he will be willing, put that offer on the table and if he says no then oh wel atleadt you tried
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 1:54 a.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>idk I would rather have a different rental double retained next year than chychrun, feels kind of a waste to pay premium and only get the value of 1 season at that price. Also we wouldnt be able to sign Stamkos, Hanifin/Pesce or another FA and have chychrun at 2.3 even if we get rid of sheary, jeannot and perbix. I really dont think stamkos goes before negotiations even start, still dont understand why he is waiting until after the season but oh well</div></div>

I’m ok with breaking up the guys that have been here forever. Look at what that turned Chicago into and now Pittsburg. Even if it upsets hedman signing one of those 2 dmen means we can afford to let him leave if he ends up reclining over the next year and change
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 1:39 a.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>I would take Hanifin/Pesce or another UFA at 6.5 for the next 8 years + very good rental that could be double retained and could have term next year vs going for it this year with chychrun and only having him a 4.6 for one more year. I dont think chychrun is going to be the difference we need this season and after that he only has 1 season left before hes a UFA. I know he was born in FL but he is from Boca Raton so he is probably a cats fan and theres a could chance he leaves us in FA so him being younger wouldnt even matter</div></div>

Well In this I have us overpaying In order to get him 50% retained so he’d only be 2.3 for 2 playoff runs. That could allow us to still get one of Hanifin or pesce and basically guarantee we will still have 4 top dmen even after chychrun becomes a UFA. Whether we bring him back or hedman Sergy, cernak and one of Hanifin or pesce would still be locked up long term. Don’t get me wrong this trade is for next year not this year we have no shot this year
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 1:27 a.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>idk hanifin is way better defensively but chychrun is probably slightly better offensively, I would still take hanifin anyday. In regards to his contract yes it is a good one but if we are able to get a defenseman in FA the picks/prospects that we save could go to buying another rental at next deadline and save value that way. At the end of the day though im not even sure JBB is going to do that, if I am being honest I think he is just going to resign stammer to a bloated deal and run it back which would suck but what I am expecting</div></div>

If Hanifin does make it to the market then sure I’m all for him coming here at around 6-6.5 but I’d much rather save the cap and get someone who can stay here for 2 playoff runs cheap and then still clock in somewhere in Hanifin a aav range when he’s due for a extension and he actually be the same age Hanifin is now when he’s up
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7 at 1:19 a.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>I cant see tampa adding big at the deadline after they passed up on Hanifin who wanted to be here and only got a 2025 (likely 2026) 1st and a 3rd. Hanifin is better than Chychrun and I cant seem them letting stamkos walk without even starting negotiations. The best play at this point is hope Vegas dont resign hanifin and that he signs here at a discount or go after pesce in FA. Any scenario involving a top 4D will require sheary, jeannot and perbix to leave as I just cant seem them giving stamkos at least $5mil. If tampa didnt want to keep stamkos then why were they so against trading him and if stamkos leaves without even getting negotiations that will probably piss hedman off.</div></div>

I think the level of chychrun and Hanifin is not that much but to have him for a extra year at 4 mil+ cheaper is definitely the type of value this team needs