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Forum: Armchair-GMOct 16, 2019 at 11:01
Thread: Year after
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jimmyjets</b></div><div>You're trading a lot for a guy that ends up as a third pair Right D. In your scenario in addition to moving out Poolman (who is a third pair RD) Vesa and a 2nd we also likely lose Logan Stanley to waivers.

It's a small sample size but Heinola Pionk look like they could be the 2nd pair already. JMo is top pair on the left and I expect Samberg to step in and play too like you've shown.

There's really no need to make this move at all, especially when it costs us a bottom pair roster player, 2 former 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick.

Alternate scenario with no trade and no Buff:

Next year (with age next season):

JMo (25) Niku (24)
Heinola (19) Pionk (25)
Samberg (21) Poolman (27)
Stanley (22)

So the D is pretty much set, so is the top 9 and the goaltending. If you add Buff back in there it looks even better.

This year may be a down year, but I still think we're a playoff team and we'll be right back to being serious contenders again next year. At least that's how I see it playing out.

There's no need for the Jets to trade for anybody, even though other fanbases think we should. Just be patient through 1 up and down year where we likely make the playoffs and if we don't it's a great draft so we should be able to grab a 2C of the future.</div></div>

I understand where you're coming from. However, I would think the Jets should make an addition on the back after this year. We're banking on our prospects panning out to their full potential. By adding 1 reliable veteran I think it gives some room for error. I like Poolman but if we could flip him in a package for something better, I would not be opposed to it.

If you swap Niku and Pionk in the defence lineup I showed above it gives you 1 above average veteran D-man in each pairing. This allows room for growth for each young player. Either a trade for a player like Ghost or signing Tanev in the offseason would facilitate this.

I think this makes the team better long term
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 5, 2019 at 10:32
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeygoalie53</b></div><div>Here's two reports... one with two sources saying Laine wants out and the other, not really saying he wants out, but it's Laine himself not really selling the fact that he wants to stay in WPG either...

<a href="https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/06/rumor-patrik-laine-wants-out-of-winnipeg.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/06/rumor-patrik-laine-wants-out-of-winnipeg.html</a>

<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets-patrik-laine-restricted-free-agency-1.5250756" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets-patrik-laine-restricted-free-agency-1.5250756</a>

Now, in the second article, before you go saying "He never said he wants out"... you're right he didn't, but he also didn't say anything like "I want to stay in WPG" or "WPG is where I want to be" like most players who want to stay somewhere do.

And not for nothing, but 3 months and 4 playoff games doesn't undo the fact that for the other 2+ years he's been one dimensional and everyone knows this. Maybe he's turning a corner defensively, sure, but until he does consistently he's not going to rid himself of the one dimensional moniker and that's going to hurt any return the Jets get.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeygoalie53</b></div><div>Here's two reports... one with two sources saying Laine wants out and the other, not really saying he wants out, but it's Laine himself not really selling the fact that he wants to stay in WPG either...

<a href="https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/06/rumor-patrik-laine-wants-out-of-winnipeg.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/06/rumor-patrik-laine-wants-out-of-winnipeg.html</a>

<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets-patrik-laine-restricted-free-agency-1.5250756" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets-patrik-laine-restricted-free-agency-1.5250756</a>

Now, in the second article, before you go saying "He never said he wants out"... you're right he didn't, but he also didn't say anything like "I want to stay in WPG" or "WPG is where I want to be" like most players who want to stay somewhere do.

And not for nothing, but 3 months and 4 playoff games doesn't undo the fact that for the other 2+ years he's been one dimensional and everyone knows this. Maybe he's turning a corner defensively, sure, but until he does consistently he's not going to rid himself of the one dimensional moniker and that's going to hurt any return the Jets get.[/quo

You cannot believe a single word written on a site called “nhl trade rumours” and the other article is so blown out of proportion as you said. He never explicitly said he wants out, and until either he or his agent say that then it’s all misinformation.</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 5, 2019 at 10:05
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 5, 2019 at 9:37