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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 3:24 p.m.
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Avs 23-24 Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SpiderSpiderSpider28</b></div><div>I think if Philly is trading Frost to Colorado they'd strongly prefer to target Callum Ritchie over any other asset (1sts and any other prospect for that matter), but I think they at least consider this</div></div>
Haha yeah that makes sense, and I think the Avs would prefer any other prospect, so it would be an interesting negotiation. As an Avs fan I'd personally rather overpay with picks and other prospects than add Ritchie, but if it was Ritchie or no trade there would definitely be consideration
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 3:03 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24 Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>johum7</b></div><div>they've said they are selling at the deadline, but they wouldn't look to move a younger center who's producing at a 2C level + defensively responsible for futures that they have a decent crop of already</div></div>
That would make sense, I just could've sworn I heard he was available, but maybe that was early in the season when he was being healthy scratched
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 2:32 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24 Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BleedOrange23</b></div><div>I don't hate the deal for Philly. I think Frost might be moved because Philly wants a 1st. People need to stop bringing up about Frost being scratched. It was at the beginning of the season, because Torts was mad he held out and wasnt playing hard. Since they met about a month ago Frost has been probably the best all around player on the Flyers. Johansen isn't happening, he and Torts have not had the best relationship in the past and I doubt the Flyers would want that cap hit. As far as Olausson, I don't know much about him but Behrens or Gulyayev would work too.</div></div>
Sorry, just seemed like a reason they would be willing to move him, and yeah Johansen maybe should be moved separately, just figured since the Flyers are rebuilding but also sorta competing, taking on a player to get extra assets would make sense, but yeah completely forgot about their history in Columbus.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 1:58 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24 Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>johum7</b></div><div>Frost likely isn't on the move. Been one of the teams best forward since Christmas and they wouldn't be looking to take on a cap dump in his place. Olausson serves no value either (not that he has none - Flyers have too many RW in system)
Edit: most of Frost's scratches come from Torts have zero leeway with him and 1/3 of his games played he's been stapled to the 4th line with a revolving door of Laughton/Poehling/Hathaway/Deslauriers</div></div>
I'd imagine he could easily move to the LW, as a left shot, but if not it could be Behrens or maybe Gulyayev, I just assumed they would rather the forward since at defence they have York, Andrae and Zamula on the left, and Drysdale and Bonk on the right, but never bad to have insurance.
And yeah the Torts treatment is the reason I would target him, but that's the problem with guessing on value, cause I would think if Briere valued him more he would've asked Torts to give him better opportunity the whole time, but I don't know what's going on behind the scenes so maybe he tried.
And yeah the Johansen contract is slight negative I think (Just cause I think they could move him at a retained price and get something for him), so maybe should separate that part out. I just felt the flyers would be sorta sellers, since they are technically rebuilding I think even though they are in a playoff spot, so taking on a negative asset to get something would make sense
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 12:47 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24 Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>I really like the idea of Frost, take Seeler out and maybe the Flyers consider. Not a fan of Ned.</div></div>
Yeah Frost is the main part, I just added the other to make it feel like a more complete deadline.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 12:46 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24 Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>johum7</b></div><div>flyers decline</div></div>
Care to elaborate?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Avsfantrumpetman</b></div><div>Same. He and I are the same age and his draft year was AWESOME for me. I loved watching him come right out of junior and play for us. That being said, I think his style of play is the exact opposite of what we are built around right now.</div></div>
I disagree, he's got the speed and skill to play in the avs style, if it's a grit thing I think when Joe said that it was for the bottom 6, but why do you think his style wouldn't work?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 9:24 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Avsfantrumpetman</b></div><div>I think Jost is the most likely signing of this roster here. The more I think about it, if we don't re-up Helm or Cogliano he fits the role we need the most down on the 4th line. Especially if we want Meyers on the 3rd line. I think Duchene's price is 5 minimum.</div></div>
Yeah, the only thing about Duchene is if he gets 4+ why didn't Nashville trade him 50% retained? They don't really need the cap room so wouldn't it make sense for a team to pay assets to get Duchene at that, but yeah I find it very unlikely as well, and he probably should get 5-6, I just want Duchene back cause he used to be my favourite player
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Armchair-GM
May 3, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 23-24 w no Landeskog
I disagree, I liked Jost more than the majority of Avs fans, but his highest point total was 26 in 70, Newhook had 33 in 71. People are panicking even though he's still 22, and could easily break out next season, and the extra 500k-1mil is worth it for the potential to have a 2C at 2mil for a year rather than having to pay him a lot, and if he doesn't break out, it's not the end of the world as he'll still likely be worth it with 30-35 points.
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Armchair-GM
May 1, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.
Thread:
Im Already Bored
I'd be shocked if Erod didn't cost more, and trading Toews is insane to me (Also not sure why Arizona would want him), but I like the idea of this team
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 23, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.
Thread:
Habs Fan Taking On Arizona
Kessel contract is a hard no, he's not that good anymore, Hayton contract is unlikely for him to sign, 4 years would cost a lot more, Chychrun trade is a bit strange from the Rangers perspective (Not sure why Reaves is included, and probably want to give a RHD instead of LHD), but I think it's the kind of deal they would move Chychrun for, and the Crouse deal is fantastic if Lindblom can get back to where he was before the cancer, don't think the Flyers should do it, but also wouldn't be surprised if they did. Overall I really like the Miller, Lindblom and Chytil adds, and Koskinen is a pretty good bet at that price
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 11, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread:
Habs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>For three reasons
1) Petry has shown signs of regression this year - ultimately it could be because of a hard season and not being able to be with his family given they reside in US, but I stil lconsider this a red flag
2) Petry has 3 years of term compared to Pavelski's one. One year of declining asset is tolerable (see Radulov for instance), multiple is a huge risk and far from ideal.
3) Unlike Petry who has been struggling this year, Pavelski is playing statistically the best hockey of his career. Granted things can change rapidly (and they have considering Petry was just doing the same around a year ago), but when we take this into consideration you can look at the reason number two again. If Petry had one year left on his contract, I'd much rather take him, because the risk of his contract becoming a nuisance is muuuch smaller.
Petry can, and I wouldn't be too surprised if he will prove me wrong, but I don't see the point for DAL to risk it. Risks outweigh the benefits for me here. We could be paying to suffer, in a sense.</div></div>
I get what you're saying, although comparing the two doesn't do anything, it's about the direction the team wants to go, if Dallas shouldn't risk it than what's the point of not selling pavelski, but I guess if they just want to maximize the potential of them being a constant bubble team. Maybe I'm underrating the risk, but risking 3 years of a bad contract(which I personally think is unlikely to happen) for the potential of 2-3 years of a top pairing dman makes sense for Dallas imo if they want to compete, but I guess it all depends on how you value Petry.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
Thread:
Habs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Ultimately as long as DAL was in the playoff race they would've never moved Pavelski and broken that first line of theirs which have been one of the best league-wide. Not that I'm against it or anything, I really wanted to keep him around and especially with a one year contract there's no huge risk of him starting to decline and lose value.
That risk however is very true with Petry - and hence I'm against going after him. Dumping Petry to Dallas might make sense for several reasons starting from the need of RHD and the fact our GM likes his veterans, but as far as I'm concerned I wish it won't happen.</div></div>
I do think you are probably underrating Petry a bit, why is it more of a risk for a 34 year old to decline than a 37 year old? Not saying he's gonna be worth it for all 3 years, but I would be surprised if he's not very very good. There are so many positive changes that will happen when he's traded, mainly getting to live with his family and being on a better team will almost certainly improve his play, and there's a good chance that he goes back to being a top pairing guy for a year or two imo.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 4, 2022 at 1:54 a.m.
Thread:
Habs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>It doesn't, but it definitely should be. Youth I mean.
Re-signing Pavs was a necessity, he's doing so well it'd be just bad to let him go for free.</div></div>
I don't think they should've let him walk, but I imagine they would've been able to get a bigger package than Giroux unless he also only allowed to be moved to one team. I just think they are the most likely team to acquire Petry, especially if Montreal takes back either or both of the two goalie contracts, which they can easily afford to do.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 3, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.
Thread:
Habs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Dude I like Pitlick but 1.75 is as high as I would go on him.
What is with the dislike of Romanov? The kid I'd killing it, he has been playing North of 25 minutes a night the last few games. He will get a min of 2.5 on a 2 or 3 year deal, but for me personally I try to lock him in for 8 years at 4-4.5 mil.</div></div>
He's playing that TOI because Edmundson is the teams only top 4 defenceman with Petry out. I think 2.5 for 2-3 years is fine, he's solid defensively, he just doesn't have the upside imo, so unless he unlocks some hidden offensive ability or improves dramatically defensively I would be very warry to commit to him. I hope it happens though, because I love the guy
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 3, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
Thread:
Habs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>I don't want Petry anywhere near Dallas, but this kind of deal wouldn't make immensely mad.
Then again I'd still very much want to avoid landing the guy here, because we're already old enough and Petry is expensive. Too expensive to my liking.</div></div>
I mainly chose Dallas because they showed interest at the deadline, and they seem to want to compete otherwise they would've moved Pavelski. I do think they should try and get younger, it just doesn't seem like their priority
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 3, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FunMustBeAlways</b></div><div>Just…not much there to justify the cap hit. The Sharks can’t really afford him and don’t need him. We have guys like Balcers and Dahlén and Barabanov already scoring at around 0.5 PPG at much more modest cap hits and we need high end scoring, not more bottom-6 pieces. He’d be worth a 3rd at around 1.5-2M but at 3.5 it’s just too much imo.</div></div>
That's fair, I guess I didn't realize how little cap space they had
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>I disagree with that. He is far too inconsistent and streaky and doesn't play a 200 ft game. It sucks to see him go but there are better places to spend money. Plus, his contract puts the team behind the 8-ball when Mac, Newhook and Byram all come up for new deals the following year.</div></div>
I think you are underrating Burakovsky a bit, this is the first season as an Av he hasn't been on pace for over 60 points (He's on pace for 59.6), and yes he's inconsistent, but when he's on he can create goals from nothing (He had 17 points in 15 playoff games in the 19-20 playoffs). Also, I don't have much worry with the new deals, Mackinnon's already said he'll take a discount, so just give him all of Johnsons money, and while I'm not the biggest fan of bridges, I think it makes a lot of sense for both Newhook and Byram. There is also a real possibility that all the players I resigned cost less, I leaned on the high side, but I could easily see one or two taking less than they're worth (Also he's 21st in even strength points per 60 over the past 3 seasons)
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 10:17 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>He doesn’t produce much, the sharks have guys who produce at the same rate if not more already on the team that don’t add over $3 mil or cost a pick that they shouldn’t be moving anyway. Barabanov, Balcers, labanc are a few</div></div>
Why would they have to move any of those players? I guess it depends how much Barabanov costs, but he consistently puts up 30 points with strong defensive numbers, not sure how that's not at least fair value if not better value for whatever team acquires him
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 10:05 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Speaking about the Leafs and the JT injury. Kerfoot filled in well, but the 3rd line was not the same.
This Avs construct looks eerily similar. Let's say Newhook goes down, Rantanen slides over. Issue here is you have weakened the top line with that move.
I don't know. I am a strong proponent on centre depth......</div></div>
Why do you say it didn't work? If I'm not mistaken, Kerfoot and Nylander were the leafs best forwards that series, and yes the top line will be weakened, but that's what happens when there are injuries, and it could be Landeskog moving down, and moving either Nichushkin or Burakovsky up with Mackinnon and Rantanen has worked, so I don't see it as that much of a downgrade.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 9:40 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Last year's playoff suggests otherwise. Hence my concern.</div></div>
What part suggests otherwise?
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>This Leafs fan will tell you that doesn't work well lol.
Been there, tried that🤣🤣</div></div>
I don't think it not working for one team means it won't work for others, especially because it has worked when they've done it
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Get where you are going. But the overall centre depth here concerns me. Vegas had this issue for 2 years. You can have all the wing deoth in the world, but when you lack C depth, it's a problem.
Newhook will be a gamer, no doubt. But this line up is risky in what is a tough west.</div></div>
I would agree because if Newhook or Mackinnon are injured it loos bad, but I really haven't had a problem when Rantanen moves over to center, so while looking at the 4 centers it might look weak with an injury, I trust other players to move over
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Oh no. Kadri will be gone. He will be signing for aggregious money that won't age well.
Having said that, finding a 2C with one or two year left in a deal maybe a rabbit hole worth going down. Pr at least a 3C that can play up the line up a little..... say a Sean Monohan at 50% retained? Imagine that gets done on the cheap.</div></div>
Sean Monahan is a no, he's not great anymore(tbh honest was never that good), injuries took away best attribute his shot, so I wouldn't want to take a chance on him, but I don't mind the idea of someone who can let you give Newhook some easier matchups. but I would be a bit worried about not giving Newhook any skilled linemates, so I would want them to add a skilled player to play with Newhook and Lehkonen in this case
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Apr. 1, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
Thread:
Avs 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>I am one that wonders if Newhook is ready to take on 2C minutes. Maybe he can, but I would suggest he needs another year to percolate before assuming that roll seamlessly.</div></div>
It's definitely a risk, but he's looked good whenever he's played with more skilled players which gives me hope, but if he can't like I mentioned in the description you can move one of the top line wingers to 2C and hopefully Newhook is able to move into the role later, but yes definitely a risk, but it's not worth keeping Kadri over one of the 2nd line wingers.
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