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Armchair-GM
Jun. 15, 2023 at 10:58 p.m.
Thread:
Toughen up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Lol sure let’s get rid of every single young talent we have and ruin othmann’s development while we are at it!
Team looks old and slow, the opposite of scary</div></div>
You couldn't be more wrong. We're trading our good youth to bring in great youth. PLD is only 24 and is one of the top young centers in the league. And half the roster is still younger players. You don't win anything with a roster that's too young. Only Lucic is old but he adds desperately needed toughness. Acciari and Marchessault play with high end speed and tenacity. Other qualities we need. Don't be so narrow minded. The only point I agree is with Oth. But I'd give him a shot because he's a tenacious player. We need more players who bust their ass every shift, not aloof players like Kreider and Chytil who completely disappear for games at a time
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 15, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
Thread:
Toughen up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>What <strong>exactly</strong> has Lafreniere done in 3 years to warrent getting the 5th ova pick? He is still young and does have the potential to be a good player but that is a bigger risk than just drafting Michkov or another prospect. If Laf had put up 50 points or something in any single year then <strong>maybe</strong> you could argue that he still has tip line ceiling but as of right now in a "what have you done for me lately" league he is not worth a top 15 pick.</div></div>
Actually I meant to add a Ranger 3rd going to Montreal also. Gorton guy. He could want him. Of the Rangers youth he's got the most upside. Hasn't exploded onto the scene as quickly as others but he's got a nose for the puck and has a knack of being in the right place. Good instincts. Unfortunately he's blocked by Kreider and Bread on his natural left side.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 14, 2022 at 8:17 a.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fox_Czar_Cup</b></div><div>Because you acquired a 5m wing JMarch, next year you Could Not afford Chiarot, Strome & Kessel. Replace with Jones, ?&? ? This does not make our current team better and future team, depth, cap & C situation worse.</div></div>
Chiarot is a rental. Wouldn't be brought in to be resigned. Next years 3rd pairing is Jones & Schneider. Kessel is also a rental. If he were to be resigned it would be a low cost 1yr/1M type contact. If Strohme wants to stay he'll need to take a lower aav with an extra yr or two given to him. Next years cap will certainly be tight, even with a possible 1M bump up. But it's workable.
And if you seriously don't think these additions make us a better team, then....
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 9:06 p.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BadBadgers</b></div><div>I would retain for a special offer but considering how Kakko looks this aint really it</div></div>
Obviously with Kakko it's all about potential. And he's getting there (but not fast enough for NYC). Only 21. He'll be a player but NYR are entering a solid 4/5 yr window to win. I'll trade futures for present.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 9:01 p.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>audiodave</b></div><div>Canucks pass. If you want Miller with retained salary the offer needs to start with Schnieder and a 1st.</div></div>
I would def hold out for Schneider too if I were you. But he's staying in NY
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>You clearly havent thought this through at all</div></div>
only things i don't think about are you're useless comments to everyones posts
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 8:56 p.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zuki9797</b></div><div>do you really think that a 2nd and a 4th is gonna be enough for chiarot</div></div>
Yes. I'm a huge Chiarot fan. If someone offers a 1st for a 3rd pair dman, Gorton should obviously jump at it. But i think a 2 & a 4 can get it done.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 8:52 p.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Chychrun going to cost way more with all of that retention</div></div>
K'Andre Miller & Othmann are seriously high end young/prospect players. Nobody's offering more than them. Including Othmann is killing me but you gotta give to get.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 8:41 p.m.
Thread:
several years of cup runs
certainly possible. Drury's stated he won't trade a 1st for a rental. Obviously Gorton knows the Ranger's system. A 2nd and a prospect he likes is doable.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
Thread:
Rumors of teams who may be looking to deal
trades might need a little tweaking but good proposals.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 18, 2021 at 10:55 p.m.
Thread:
Mcdavid value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Pretty much.
Panarin's NMC prevents him from moving so it's Zibby. Fox is just too important for their whole D core. Lundkvist is a solid prospect and could form a solid pair with Broberg. Could see them going after a C if dealing McJesus.
So in total we'd have
:rangers
Connor McDavid
:oilers
Alexis Lafreniere
Mika Zibanejad
Filip Chytil
Nils Lundkvist
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
In other words, it's the OPs original trade but with Kravtsov, Blais and a 1st changed to Lafreniere, Strome changed to Chytil and Schneider swapped to Lundkvist.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Pretty much.
Panarin's NMC prevents him from moving so it's Zibby. Fox is just too important for their whole D core. Lundkvist is a solid prospect and could form a solid pair with Broberg. Could see them going after a C if dealing McJesus.
So in total we'd have
:rangers
Connor McDavid
:oilers
Alexis Lafreniere
Mika Zibanejad
Filip Chytil
Nils Lundkvist
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
In other words, it's the OPs original trade but with Kravtsov, Blais and a 1st changed to Lafreniere, Strome changed to Chytil and Schneider swapped to Lundkvist.
Seems much better to me than the original suggestion.</div></div>
Rangers do this in a heartbeat if it's ever offered.</div></div>
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.
Thread:
2 long shots but possible
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>These arent long shots, these will simply not happen.</div></div>
This is a trade forum. Why could they not happen? If you disagree with the values I welcome alternatives
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread:
2 long shots but possible
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Ottawa would say yes. Insane overpay lol</div></div>
I agree. As a hockey trade it's a big overpay. But I'd gladly do it to bring Brady in. He's the exact type of player Rangers need.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread:
2 long shots but possible
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrewishTV</b></div><div>The Vegas and Calgary trades are AWFUL for NYR
EDIT: I also think the ottawa trade is super unnecessary.</div></div>
Kreider is a top 6 winger but Rangers talent there pushes him to a 3rd liner for 6.5/yr. They can't do that. They need to move his full salary. Vegas needs to move MAF and needs help in the top 6. Rangers need of building a stronger bottom 6 outweighs there top/middle 6 excess. Chytil is also excess. Basically swapping for Devils 2nd rounder, which will be a high pick.
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.
Thread:
NYRangers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>1. Not enough for Coleman, Tkachuk, and Shesterkin
2. Tkachuk isn't getting moved
3. Not even close for Eichel
4. Kreider won't waive
5. Rangers are in cap hell</div></div>
1. Those are good estimates. Salaries will depressed over the next couple years
2. Ott LOVES Laff. On draft day they tried to trade for the 1st pick to get him. Hometown boy will sell tickets, big time.
3. When a player publicly wants out, his team loses leverage. That's a strong return regardless.
4. Players with NMC get moved all the time. It's often a meaningless contract addendum. He'll agree to go out west to a contender, where no state tax allows him to collect about another $200k/yr
5. You're clueless. Rangers are one of the most cap flexible teams with a ton of cap space available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 7, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread:
Swingin for the fences for sure but are values in the ballpark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldSenileGuy</b></div><div>Minnesota trade is the only one that's even slightly realistic.
Also, if playing TDA on the left side was an option, then Rangers would probably want to keep him. i do wonder if it's something they'll try this season to see how it goes</div></div>
Playing TDA at LD is def an option for Rangers. But we have a surplus offensive Dmen. We need a couple of strong stay at home LD. I'll trade one of the top young right Dmen to fill other needs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 7, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
Thread:
Swingin for the fences for sure but are values in the ballpark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>And you'll be over the cap, It's at least a 22 man roster not a 20 man roster. And both Edmonton and Boston would decline those deals.</div></div>
Yes, cap is tight for sure, as it is for everyone. But Staal can be bought out to free up 2 million more this year if needed. And we have a lot of cap space going forward. I think it's manageable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 7, 2020 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread:
Swingin for the fences for sure but are values in the ballpark
When I look at trades, they're not always hockey trades. I guess it's my bad if I assume people understand the economics, and other factors, that can trigger trades. In Edm, like it or not, McD has openly expressed his unhappiness at how things have gone for years. And it didn't get any better this year. I'm clearly not making this up. That doesn't mean he's getting traded. Actually the chances are slim to none. But that extenuating circumstance makes a trade at least a possibility. And trading to a team out of conference who holds the 1OA pick might not be a bad place to start a discussion. In Boston, the window is closing. Not saying it's shut by any means. But there are aging stars for sure. This trade brings in 2 players in TDA & Miller with elite potential and Krav has very high upside too. Again, the trade chance is slim at best. But it's just a discussion. Amazing how some fanboys get their asses chapped when someone even brings up the possibility of trading for a star on their team. lol
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 7, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.
Thread:
Swingin for the fences for sure but are values in the ballpark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>You would have to include Kakko in the EDM/BOS deals.</div></div>
That's a fair ask. I'd be open to it. Probably would add a second piece to go to the Rangers. Something much less valuable than KK of course.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2020 at 11:21 p.m.
Thread:
Brady Point
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Think Maroon maybe with the tip?</div></div>
thought it might have deflected off his leg
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2020 at 11:09 p.m.
Thread:
Brady Point
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Yeah. Like a Stamkos trade. Brayden Point is far and away Tampa's best player. You make that trade 1OA ill take it. Or you take Stamkos over Point.</div></div>
I'm completely open to trading the Laffy pick. Changes the trade though. Probably takes TDA out of the equation and he's a player that would be great with TB
And it's Hedman with the winner!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.
Thread:
Brady Point
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>2 years post Seattle draft. Johnson Palat on M-NTCs maybe a cap raise. A lot can happen in 2 years. Point is a bargain for now and your paying a ransom to take him.
Plus if you take Stamkos and Cernak they can for sure afford him.</div></div>
Agreed. But there's a fair chance this cap may be flat for 3 yrs. I think because of that we'll see a lot of trades you normally might not see.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
Thread:
Brady Point
Point's gonna need another big raise in 2 yrs. Don't know if TB can pay it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:49 p.m.
Thread:
Brady Point
I'd definitely look at that. Didn't think TB would though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.
Thread:
Brady Point
Yes he is. But teams like TB and TOR are pressed against the cap. They'll need to move some quality, expensive players for other needs. Like D and 1st round picks. Don't be so narrow minded. A good GM will seek out strapped teams and try to work something out. All trades can be tweaked.
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