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Forum: NHL TradesAug. 7 at 12:22 a.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ghost789</b></div><div>Goodluck Pens are pretty close to being irrelevant with ZERO prospects in the pipeline. 1960’s-80’s Trash Penguins all over again.. crazy to think they’re still just the 4-5th “best” team in the Metro even after this trade. Wouldn’t be surprised if they miss the playoffs yet again.. with an aging injury prone core.

Come back in April and tell me how this trade looks. SJ won long term. In 2-3 years they’ll have 6 grade A prospects on the NHL roster making a name for themselves. They’ll be the next Devils , young talented core with tons of Cap space to add to FA’s.</div></div>

At least we got banners in the rafters bud. And that is worth the price to do an actual rebuild. See thats where you eventually get better. Since SJ fans dont know what thats like. And just cause you picked them high doesnt mean they will pan out. We will see what you are saying in 2-3 years when you send Meier off for scraps too 😂😂😂😂
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6 at 2:22 p.m.
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6 at 2:12 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drizzt</b></div><div>Why would they retain that much for the next 4 years? This gives them alot of moves to make in 24 onwards. either keep getting more prospects or then try to get a good player in the UFA market... That would be impossible with retaining that much salary</div></div>

Dude your gonna be picking in the top 5 for the next 4 years. Who cares that you are paying on a guy for 4 years. SJ owners got THEIR win which is more money in THEIR pockets. The SJ hockey team loses their best player and got a protected 1st for it.... but yea dont worry sharks didnt get fleeced at ALLLLLL
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6 at 2:08 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SnakeDelilah</b></div><div>mtl - takes back a bad contract, brings in a third backup goalie but gets a second round pick for the trouble

pit - replaces petry in the old man RD slot for $5M AAV more, praying that karlsson’s feet don’t fall off within four years

sjs - eating salaries from terrible contracts that will expire by the time they’re done rebuilding (hypothetically) but get significantly less value than what they initially offered

did everyone lose this trade???</div></div>

Dont see how pitt "loses" this trade. At worst they broke even. Karlsson only needs to play well for the first 2 years of this contract. Dubas took a window every deemed shut, locked, and somehow pryed it back open for what looks to be 2 or if we are VERY lucky 3 seasons. Not saying we win the cup but it certainly is FAR more likely than it was 3 months ago.
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6 at 2:04 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>He got fleeced. I'm not saying he should be fired...he hasn't had the job long enough, but EK has 3 Norris trophies...including the reigning winner. YES, he more offensively minded these days, but Grier did a terrible job maximizing return. He took on THREE cap dumps that alone...probably cost as much (if not more) than the conditional 1st. Josh Bailey...2nd. Zaitsev...2nd&amp;4th as examples.

Also, why not retain 50%??? They're not remotely close to contending...so why not maximize value?

This wasn't a good job at all imo.</div></div>

See this guy gets it. Though SJ didnt retain the max because of ownership. This will age like the Burns trade. Pens get the best player and sj gets to not pay money to a great hockey player. Syure its a huge win if your an accountant, but last i checked the Sharks were an NHL franchise. Though should probably just demote them to the AHL at this point.
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Bonkers, absolutely bonkers I tells ya!

Just looking at it from a Habs perspective but if KH moves out Petry and one of either Desmith or Allen, than this is a masterclass. If he's stuck with Petry/Desmith/Allen for any amount of time it starts to not be as good. Im confident one of Allen/Desmith will be moved quite easily and if Habs retain 50% on Petry now, teams should be knocking down the door to get him. 2.6M for a top 4 dman is great value. Even if he had an off year last year.

Can't wait to see what happens next for the Habs but this appears to be Habs get a 2nd rounder+ Legare + (insert value from future Petry/Desmith trades) for approx 3M in dead cap and 1 less retention spot this year and next. Actually the fact that the Habs moved out Hoffman and Pitlick who are pending UFA's means they actually will have not gained any cap overall but rather swapped approx 3M from this year, to next year in the deal.

Its a very convoluted trade just like the Monahan one but when you look at it in the fine details, this is very smart work for Hughes and company.</div></div>

Do you really think petry gets traded so soon? He blocked the SJ trade for this long. Just curious as to how Montreal fans think he is gonna be gone before the puck drops for 2024.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ghost789</b></div><div>Interesting trade, not quite sure what Pitt is thinking with the whole retaining thing? They get SJ to retain 1.5M off EK but then turn around and retain 1.5M off Petry for MTL? It’s a complete wash , makes no sense.

Dubas wants so bad to win NOW with Pitt to prove himself.. it’s either going 1 of two ways.. either Pitt wins a cup .. which is probably only a 2 year window left or they miss playoffs again/have major injuries and now they’re stuck with paying two RD 16M for the next 4+ years , not a good look. Dubas will be Axed from the league if this doesn’t work out. His handling of contracts and inability to get Toronto over the top with that talent .. what makes u think he can do it with 4 aging 35+ year old star players ? He better be praying.

EK thrives off being “THE GUY” there’s a reason why he struggled when Burns was still in SJ. You can’t have two OFD with EK, he needs to be out there on every PP playing 26+ minutes a night.

SJ comes away as the winner in this all. In 2 years from now it’ll be even more obvious. They dump EK’s huge contract, get 1st round pick and two proven serviceable 2/3rd liners that are responsible 2 way forwards who can teach SJ’s young guys coming up. If both healthy Granlund and Hoff are 50 point guys . Only thing I would’ve like to see is SJ get a B+ or higher level prospect out of this. They only took Rutta because Pitt needed to dump some cap. SJ is 3-4 years away from being a contender again, this window they’ll be free off all bad contacts, Burns, EK, Vlasic, etc They’ll have some solid prospects coming in and will have a ton of cap space to sign some FA’s.</div></div>

Bahahahahahaha. Dude the 1st is even top 10 protected. SJ got fleeced because their owners suck. SJ fans trying to back track like they all wanted to just dump salary when a week ago they wanted 3 first round assets for EK alone. Just stop. SJ also isnt competing anytime soon. In 4 years they still wont be relevent and will be the laughing stock they always have been. Theyre the Pittsburgh Pirates of the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14 at 8:54 p.m.
Thread: Karlsson to the Pens via Detroit PIT POV
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>You are getting Karlsson at 6.3M while moving out over 11M in bad cap for two years. Poulin doesn't have much value at all. That would be a ridiculous ask. Lindblom is just so SJ doesn't have to eat as much money.</div></div>

And im saying for that the pens would be wiser to get someone that isnt a black hole on the ice. Blomqvuist is our only legitimate goalie prospect in the system. With the inconsistencies Jarry has shown, giving away the best "out" of that contract if it goes south is Blomqvuist. Neddy had 1 solid year and is pretty nuch a back up at this point. Tbh i could even see CDS getting the job out of camp. Also the sharks are making out like bandits compared to the wings considering the wings are retaining almost half of the salary.