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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.
Thread: Experiment
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Doesn't matter.

That's what would of been offered.

Boldy, Rossi, and Wallstedt are all off limits given the fact that there is no one in the top ten in this years draft who is worth moving them for this year.

Not one.

Logan Cooley is the only one with the potential upside to be a franchise center out of this draft and that is a very risky assumption to bet on. Moving any of those three to do it and take that gamble is moronic and would only hurt the team in the long run.</div></div>
From experts is one of the weaker drafts. There really isn’t a clear cut generational talent at #1. I would’ve never traded Fiala and a prospect like wallstadt or rossi. Fiala is traded so there is no reason to discuss getting the 2OA pick. Keep the pick. From the sound of it you’re probably gonna cause you’re not getting Cat from Chicago for just that.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.
Thread: Not really much flexibility here is there
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeadHighSauce</b></div><div>I do not think you will be getting 2, Mercer, or Holtz.</div></div>
Holtz would most likely be straight up. But I doubt the devils will do that. Mercer most definitely would require another piece. Yes he’s promising but Fiala is a proven guy coming off of 85 points and he’s entering his prime! Sky is the limit and you don’t get a piece like that for free or the trash that most devil fans have been projecting. Time will tell what actually happens. But I will say this is an important step for the devils where they could jump into playoffs next year and even contention but if they screw up a step and grab a guy that keeps them from that then that GM could be out the door. They’ve got a good potential team that could go a number of routes. Whether it’s a trade for Fiala, debrincat, Miller, Pasternak or signing forsberg or Johnny hockey! Gonna be exciting leading up to the draft
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2022 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread: Not really much flexibility here is there
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>I mean, Holtz or Mercer both carry value commensurate to the 7th OVA pick. We aren't going to get either of those two and what would be akin to a second 1st rounder. Then it's an overpay on New Jerseys end. The best we'd get in addition to either of those two is probably a 2nd round pick. But definitely not another 1st.</div></div>

I think had there not been a surplus of forward that could be available we could’ve gotten that type of deal but I think you’re right. Now if we want Mercer it’d maybe be 2nd round or lower but if it was Holtz it might be straight up. But truthfully I don’t think they’ll give up Holtz. I saw a different trade with a 2nd and 3rd rounders as well as 2 guys that won’t amount to anything more than depth players.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
Thread: Not really much flexibility here is there
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>At least Kings and Sens fans have been reasonable. Isles fans are mixed, but I get where they're coming from. They're on the precipice of either rebuilding or trying go for it again next year. It's easy to be conflicted in case.

Devils fans have mostly just lowballed, for the most part. Anything that would really be interesting they've been adamant about not giving up.</div></div>
I agree! Don’t understand that to get something you have to give something. The way I feel… if you’re not gonna offer the 2OA or the 2023 1st without protection then you better pony up some good prospects. I keep coming back to if it’s not Holtz then give us Mercer and a top 10 protected next year 1st. Think that’s fair value
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 26, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread: Ideal Offseason - SABRES
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>Staal for Marjo. Kunin trade. Suter buyout then have to sign Goli and trade for Middleton (cost Kahk) to make up for that hole he created. He has literally signed nobody of importance that wasn't already in the system 6/7 d-men and 12/13 FDs. Spurgeon's awful contract. Now he's going to lose one of the top-3 most skilled wings the team has ever had. Rossi over Lundell, LD over Raty, trading up to get Marat K. Not getting McBain or Lindberg to sign. Not addressing the biggest hole on the team with a top-6, heck even a third line center.

The only good moves GMBG made the Zucker trade and the Walstedt trade/draft. Cole/Pateryn was a good trade, but he loses some points for not getting him to re-sign.

Fletcher and Fenton made this team, GMBG is just living off of that.</div></div>
First off the buyouts had to happen. Suter and parise were awful locker room players. Complaining about playing time or complaining about who their dman partner was. There is evidence that Suter was a problem not just in MN but also in Nashville. The Kunin trade he picked up a vet in bonino who was a good bottom 6 player and a good penalty killer and if you dig into the trade he eventually received 2 prospects in Marat Khusnutdinov and Daemon Hunt which were drafted in 2020 in the 2nd and 3rd round. Middleton is a good defenseman and he brought some grit. Kahkonnen was worth trading. I look at him as yes he has good games but ultimately he’ll end up as a decent goalie who could maybe grow as a solid starter but more so a backup. Is losing Fiala is not on Guerin. That’s on Fletcher by handing out those contracts to parise and suter. And yes I like Fiala and really wanna keep him but watch him flip him for some value before the draft. The spurgeon contract was necessary. He is a really good defenseman. Idk about captain material but he has been one of the most dependable defenseman we have. Yes you bring up good points but seriously dude I’d rather trust a guy that actually knows the game and knows what it takes to build a winning team. I’m pretty sure he’s a much better GM then you give him credit for. Plus comparing rossi and lundell is not right. Way too early and rossi had health problems that delayed his career. He’s healthy now and I bet he’ll be on the club next year either centering kaprizov and Zuccs or boldy and personally I want Jost on the wing. Good young fast line right there! Plus whoever we get back from a Fiala trade. What guerin does next will be what defines him when you’re in a cap crunch.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2022 at 9:15 p.m.
Thread: Carolina side
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I think Fiala makes sense in CAR and Necas makes sense as part of that deal but it’s probably Necas and a pick. Drury likely wouldn’t be going as part of that deal or really many others. He’s ready to play in the league and we’ll also need cheap ELC impact players if we spend in UFA.</div></div>
Now if it’s a pick is a 2nd rounder gonna do it. I think it’s leaning towards a 1st but I don’t know if guerin wants a 2023 1st. I think he’s looking at this year. So if you throw in next years first you might even have to sweeten the offer. But hey I give this the first proposal where someone legitimately wrote what it actually will cost to sign Fiala. I just saw one where it’s a laughable $6.5 mill. Yeah he’ll even laugh at that kind of offer. He’s getting over 7 if not 8 mill a year.