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Armchair-GM
7 hours ago
Thread:
Active UFA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tupty</b></div><div>That would be a terrible mistake. The team is #1 in the league in goals against with a top paid D man that is made of glass. Letting Montour walk would immediately make their D suspect on the right side, and it risks having Bob turn back into a pumpkin or having the team be less aggressive on the forecheck to compensate for the weaker backend. Good RD is much harder to replace than goal scoring.
I actually don't want the B's to pay Reinhart upwards of 9m. He's a great player, but I don't expect him to suddenly become a perennial 45+ goal scorer. He's probably good for 30+ goals and 60+ points a year though, so he has earned what you are suggesting from FLA. I can't see them letting go of Montour or Reinhart though. They'd sooner give up Knight for free than let either of those guys walk. They both fit the team's identity too well, and their contention window is now.</div></div>
I said more likely to let Montour walk than Reinhart, not that they will. I think they will look to find a way to stop paying over 15M on goaltending every season first. For example I could see Arizona having interest in Knight. Or maybe Philly since Hart is probably returning any time soon if at all.
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Armchair-GM
7 hours ago
Thread:
Active UFA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>Reinhart has took over 300 draws in the last 3 seasons.
Also florida has cap but not enough to bring back Reinhart/ montour and Lundell.
I doubt anyone takes knight until he shows flashes of his potential again. Bobrovsky is an unmoveable contract.
Moving Ekblad wouldn’t be smart.
If they sign all 3 ( Reinhart 9-9.5, Montour 6.5-7.5, Lundell 3-3.5) they have about 4 mill to fill 2 dman spots a whole 4th line and 1 3rd liner.
Even assuming sourdif and mackie make the roster on their ELC’s that would still leave them with having to fill 4 spots at less then nhl minimum</div></div>
300 faceoffs is nothing. They are also not what defines a center. He's a right handed shot and Barkov has constant injury issues. He's about as much of a center as Nylander is.
As for cap space. I'm more than willing to bet he would take a discount to stay in Florida. 9.25M x 7 years is 67.75M, Florida would only have to offer 8.1M to top that (which they will almost certainly offer at least 8.5x8). On top of that, Reinhart knows what it's like to play in an unsuccessful environment and is in one where he is having immense success, why would he risk losing that again?
You doubt anyone would take a chance on Knight? Maybe not a cup contender but it's only a 2 year commitment at 4.5M. For the potential of being a bonafide starter I'm more than willing to bet a team with lots of cap space would take a shot on him. Bob is more moveable than you make him out to be too, especially since his NTC drops down to a 16 team partial this summer.
I doubt Lundell makes more than 3M this summer, he has not had nearly strong enough sophomore and junior seasons to justify much more than a 2.5M bridge. I think they are way more likely to let Montour walk than Reinhart right now
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Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Contenders
That won't get you Andersson, and Reinhart will stay in Florida if that's the best offer he can get on the market
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Armchair-GM
9 hours ago
Thread:
Active UFA
Reinhart doesn't play center also it will take more than that to pry him out of Florida. I bet he extends
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Armchair-GM
15 hours ago
Thread:
Off season
What is Carolina adding for Calgary to take on Orlov? Then what are they adding for Kuzmenko? Then what are they adding for retention?
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Armchair-GM
15 hours ago
Thread:
Starting the rebuild accidentally
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Turcotte and a late 1st would still be light especially with retention.</div></div>
Maybe, I like Turcotte and his 2-way game
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Armchair-GM
18 hours ago
Thread:
Tavares waives his NTC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>So much wrong with this
Minnesota has nowhere near the cap space for Tavares
Faber is worth significantly more than Tavares
I doubt you’re getting a 2nd for Jarnkrok, and nobody is paying for Reaves
Guentzel gets a lot more than 7.25M</div></div>
Forgot to add the underpay on Stephenson and that hilariously bad goaltending
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Armchair-GM
18 hours ago
Thread:
Marner for Crosby who says no who has to add
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>Leafs say no.
An aging second line center is easier to find than a still in his prime elite winger.
The Leafs already taken the NYI franchise center to play behind Matthews so taking Pit franchise center would give the Leafs the same result as JT had.</div></div>
While I agree the Leafs say no (and so does Crosby himself) JT at his absolute peak is still worse than 36 year old Crosby. The risk is eventually Crosby will have a fall-off. IMO that is more likely to happen in a change of scenery so moving to Toronto would probably increase that chance tenfold.
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Armchair-GM
19 hours ago
Thread:
Starting the rebuild accidentally
Return seems light for 50%. I would probably want Turcotte included
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 5:31 a.m.
Thread:
Mercer for Markstrom
Flames aren't getting Mercer
Also with the high interest in top 4 RD around the league Calgary isn't going to be the team DeMelo signs with, especially since they really don't need him
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 5:29 a.m.
Thread:
What would be the price Flames fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I'm not looking at this summer when I talk about potential cap issues, I'm looking at the summer of 25. As it stands, the Flames should be a little under 20M in cap space that summer. Then you subtract those few new deals from this summer, whatever that amount is. Sharangovich, Mangiapane, Coronato, Zary and Poirier (plus maybe Vladar/Kuzmenko?) will need new contracts. The three young guys, we have no idea what they might be able to pull given another full NHL season to work with, so it's hard to know how much of a squeeze will happen. Might be nothing, maybe even probably nothing, but I kinda assume Zary will get a nice raise, and I think Coronato could be a big breakout candidate next year. There's also a lot of D ice time that will need to be filled and Poirier could bust out a bit.
Of course, Conroy could make a trade or two and have loads of cap space, and the whole concept could be shot. Or they could be in the playoff mix and Conroy eats into the cap space somehow. It's a long way off, I'm just exploring one hypothetical timeline.</div></div>
Calgary was a seller this year and they will be again next year. Mangiapane, Kuzmenko, and Sharangovich should all be sold as they don't really fit the teams new timeline. They might extend Sharangovich but almost certainly not the other 2. Zary is having a good rookie season but we will see if he can repeat it or continue to improve next year. I have no doubt Calgary will be able to extend both him and Coronato even if they each earn 7M deals.
As for Poirier, players generally don't get lucrative deals after 1 NHL season. I would be shocked if he got more than a 2M bridge even if he does put up 35 points in a 3rd pair role
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 3:37 a.m.
Thread:
What would be the price Flames fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnonymousSensFan</b></div><div>I'm assuming op was referring to Kuzmenko with that "Kuzy" comment, as he was acquired from Van in the Lindholm deal and may, or may not, be viewed as a cap dump.</div></div>
Ah good point. I think Calgary valued him and I think Vancouver valued his cap space for next season. So I call it a cap casualty
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 3:04 a.m.
Thread:
What would be the price Flames fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Heh. What??? On what basis? And are you counting Kuzy as a cap dump or as something with some value? I cannot imagine anyone coughing up as much as Vancouver paid for Lindholm.
I have all sorts of decent things to offer, but also am fully aware that the Flames may have some cap issues to contend with by the time the summer of 25 rolls around, so prime A assets are probably not going to be on the table. Do you prefer picks, prospects of a certain position, whatcha need?</div></div>
Also just so were clear, you brought up Kuznetsov as a comparable. He had 17 total points in 43 games with the Caps this year at a 7.8M cap hit. He has 5 points in his last 11 games with the Canes but even if he continues at this ~0.5ppg pace he will still only finish the season with about 27 points. Which is less than Sharangovich has in just goals right now.
Also what are these "cap issues" you are referring to? The cap for next season is projected to be 87.7M and Calgary's current roster is at 68.8M with only Wolf, Pelletier, Kylington, and Okhotiuk to re-sign. All of which should be relatively cheap. That's ~19.9M cap space.
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 2:38 a.m.
Thread:
What would be the price Flames fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Heh. What??? On what basis? And are you counting Kuzy as a cap dump or as something with some value? I cannot imagine anyone coughing up as much as Vancouver paid for Lindholm.
I have all sorts of decent things to offer, but also am fully aware that the Flames may have some cap issues to contend with by the time the summer of 25 rolls around, so prime A assets are probably not going to be on the table. Do you prefer picks, prospects of a certain position, whatcha need?</div></div>
On what basis? He's on a dirt cheap contract, in his prime, has no team control, and is playing excellent. He plays in all situations, has a very high compete level, and plays all 3 forward positions. Unless your 2024 1st or similar quality prospect is on the table he won't be traded to St. Louis this summer. Calgary will almost certainly hold onto him until next year's deadline, then move him to a contender where he will make a big difference. Personally I have no idea why the Blues would be interested, his value is at it's highest right now and they are probably not contending next year either.
Kuzy is 31 years old, was making just under 8M, had requested a trade for 2 full years prior to this one, was coasting on the ice, and was literally placed on and passed through waivers before he was moved at 50% to Carolina. So yes he was most certainly a cap dump.
As for needs. Calgary needs center prospects the most, and high end talent anywhere else the 2nd most. They are also interested in defense prospects, specifically RD. The flames are overflowing with middle 6 caliber players and prospects, especially on the wing and LD. Again I really don't see a fit with STL but my ask would probably start with Stenberg.
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 1:53 a.m.
Thread:
What would be the price Flames fans
Not cheap but should be made available. What's your offer? I think Calgary may ask for similar to the Lindholm return
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 9:29 p.m.
Thread:
Speed up rebuild
Those signings are not realistic at all. top UFA's in their prime are not going to take discounts to sign with the worst team in the league just to improve them to bubble status
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 9:11 p.m.
Thread:
Chych aint worth too much no more
Ottawa should keep him and move Chabot instead
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 10:34 a.m.
Thread:
wings
Flames decline
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 5:12 a.m.
Thread:
Flames offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Wolf is an undersized 23 year old goalie with -5.6 GSAx in 11 games.
Bottom 4 rate in the league (sogaard, chorna, cal Peterson have been worse) He’s been horrific as an NHL goalie</div></div>
It's laughable how petty you are. 9 NHL starts is not a legitimate sample size. Maybe he was brought up too early at first but the last 4 games he's played great
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 2:53 p.m.
Thread:
Do we still draft Tij
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>And you're missing my point size is still important. <strong>Especially once the playoffs start. Catton is worth a late 1st maybe even a mid 1st but not a top 10 (or close) pick. With a pick that high you can get a player with size, skill and grit not hoping and praying to get lucky with a small player.</strong> I never said big and slow either, it takes more than just size, it takes decent speed and skill too.
Big does not mean slow. Sutter always talked about size and speed together. Big and slow doesn't cut it nowadays but big and fast does.</div></div>
Yeah we're just not going to ever agree on this. Like idk how you can say that an inferiorly skilled player is better simply because he's bigger. Brad Marchand has been one of the most effective playoff players in history, Brayden Point almost won the Conn Smyth a couple years ago. Catton is the type of player who could be an absolute home run, Yakemchuk could be a Rasmus Andersson caliber player. Like maybe if you were making the argument for Parekh sure but not Yakemchuk.
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 12:45 p.m.
Thread:
Trade down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Presumably it would drop the 3rd in that case if the pick moves up</div></div>
Math isn't your strong suit is it?
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 12:42 p.m.
Thread:
Trade down
This was actually a scenario I was thinking could happen for Markstrom prior to the draft. Though I don't think Vancouver is going to win the cup this year so that pick will probably be in the 25-30 range depending on where the division leaders finish.
I just didn't want to post it because I didn't feel like dealing with the backlash from "certain posters"
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 12:37 p.m.
Thread:
Do we still draft Tij
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Most of those guys (Rossi, Johnson, Eklund, Cooley, Savoie, Michkov, etc) aren't proven yet. Many of the rest are soft or have major flaws (Zegras who at 6' 185lbs isn't small either). Kucherov is proven but he's bigger than most of the others you named and wasn't a 1st round pick, he was a late 2nd. gaudreau was 4th round pick and is incredibly soft. Bedard is an exceptional player and while a bit short he isn't tiny or a lightweight. Raymond (same height as Catton but nearly 20 lbs heavier) is another who really isn't that small. Panarin is a little on the light side but he's not short.
I'd only take Catton if both Iginla and Yakemchuk are already gone. I'm not sure I'd take Yakemchuk over Iginla either but I might if he's still available when the Flames pick. Most draft rankings have Yakemchuk ranked higher.</div></div>
You are not getting my point at all. There are ample examples of smaller successful players drafted in the last 10 years from outside the top 10 in drafts (DeBrincat, Robertson, Kyrou, Kaprizov, Point, Ehlers, Konecny, Aho, Bratt, Farabee, Caufield, Maccelli, Perfetti). Teams are realizing that they are missing out on legitimate talent because they spend too much time prioritizing size. The game is faster than it's ever been so big and slow has fallen out of favor. Catton is arguably the 2nd most naturally gifted player in this draft class in terms of checking all boxes, it's just things like his size that make him fall. Outside of Celebrini he is probably the only center with a legitimate shot at being a true #1
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 10:51 a.m.
Thread:
Do we still draft Tij
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>A big physical defenseman with a good shot and 1st pairing potential sounds like exactly the type of defenseman Conroy would want. Most "offensive" defensemen need to work on their defense to succeed in the NHL but that should be easier for a big physical player.
As for small players they're risky picks for every Brayden Point, Martin St. Louis or Theoren Fleury there are a whole lot of busts / marginal players. None of those 3 were drafted in the 1st round either in fact St Louis was undrafted. Even Kucherov who's a little bigger went late in the 2nd round and most were surprised he went that soon.</div></div>
You have a very outdated mindset if you think small players with high skill still have trouble succeeding in the NHL. Kane pioneered it, Gaudreau, Kucerov, and Panarin proved he wasn't an exception. Now these guys are getting drafted in the top 10 all the time. Look at Marner, Keller, Hughes, Zegras, Raymond, Rossi, Johnson, Eklund, Cooley, Savoie, Smith, Michkov. Hell even Bedard is tiny. I look at Catton and see a Logan Cooley 2.0 in the making, he's so fast and has phenomenal edge work, he's just going to dance around people once he makes it.
Again I think Yakemchuk is a good prospect, I just wouldn't choose him over Iginla.
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 9:22 a.m.
Thread:
Do we still draft Tij
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Make that Lindstrom or Yakemchuk and I agree. Catton I'd pass on.</div></div>
Gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Catton has top end speed and acceleration, as well as great stickhandling. His only drawback is his size but guys like Point have proven that wrong.
I would not choose Yakemchuk over Iginla. Not that I don't think he has 1D potential but I don't see him being better than Andersson. He's a physical defenseman with a hard shot but has below average skating and defensive play. I think we are pretty set on offensive defensemen between Poirier, Brzustewiczs, and Morin.
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