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Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 1:29 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>
1)Mats Sundin was a 200 feet player, Matthews is a cherry picker in the offensive zone.

2)Old school GM's would have convinced Matthews agent to take equal or slightly less than J.T. , evil (dumb) stat guys (ahem) get fooled and end up looking foolish and ruining the NHL by pushing the salaries higher for every player.

3)Pasta hit the 70 point mark in his contract year, Nylander hit 61. Larkin hit 63 in his contract year. Ehlors hit 60 in his contract year. All players (along with Draisaitl) were from the same Draft year, so how did Nylander "earn" his half a million overpayment ? Dubas cave with the holdout.

4)Marner contract is hard to compare with anyone since he compares more with centers than wingers, look around in the NHL and hardly find any Elite play making passing wingers.</div></div>

1) Ahh. You don't watch the games. Got it. Mats has had very good defensive impacts. There is a reason why that Selke quote from Shanny exists.
2) Proof please. Old school GM Lou paid Marleau and Zaitsev.
3) don't care about points but even then that isn't a huge difference. Remember that neither of Pasta or Larkin held out for 5 months.
Also, how do you not understand that a hold out is a leverage gaining tactic. The whole point is that it adds leverage to the player. It isn't caving in to give them 250k (imo) - 700k (iyo) more. That is called negotiation. This isn't difficult to understand.
4) What?!?! Gaudreau, Reinhart, Rantenen, Aho (when he was a winger), Huberdeau, etc.
We are done here. A statement like that is beyond absurd and proves this isn't a productive talk.
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