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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 16, 2019 at 11:44 a.m.
Thread: EDM Goes Big
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>If Edmonton doesn't understand that they have massive holes all over their line up that can't be patched with a quick trade, they are hopeless and McDavid is going to want out within 2 seasons. I think they are absolutely going to miss the playoffs again and I think both McDavid and Draisailt are going to get so frustrated with having to carry the whole team that they may even trail off as the season goes by.</div></div>

Agree with much of this. Trading two 1st's + JP for a guy they can just sign as a UFA isn't good business, irrespective of the quality of backup goalie included in the trade. It could be argued that EDM needs a good backup right now (Georgiev can be a 1B and future starter IMO), a couple of things come to mind: they do have several good goalie prospects in the system right now who project as future starters (Konovalov should arrive 2021-22, Rodrigue 2022-23), and they shouldn't make any move for a backup this year until they've first given Starrett a chance to prove himself. He could be a decent backup right now.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 1, 2019 at 9:38 p.m.
Thread: Couple Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>If these acquisitions were such a good idea, why didn't we do them for free and then get something else for the other assets we're sending? Surely we could get a fourth for Benning from one of the four or five teams strapped for actual NHL-experienced RD's and a seventh for Cave?

And why in the world would we send Chiasson down when we could exile Gagner?</div></div>

Because the Oilers have limited ability to take on more contracts (already have 48 of 50), Holland needs to move out players under contract before considering a waiver claim.

If Bear proves capable of having success with Klefbom during regular season games, and Persson comes back from injury and continues to improve, it's possible Benning may be traded this season. He's a right shot, proven, depth defender with some offensive potential and an affordable and expiring contract. That probably gives him more value than a 4th round pick. Cave should get more than a 7th as well, and may be expendable if Haas can acclimate and succeed.

I agree that Chiasson is a better asset than Gagne. Besides, sending Gagner to Bakersfield is an example of good cap space management.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22, 2019 at 1:43 p.m.
Thread: Habs-Oilers deal at draft
The thing is, EDM only needs this cap space if they have someone to use it on. if they don't get anyone that can truly help the team now, than they're just wasting Poolparty for pretty much nothing. A trade like this could only happen in late late June or after July 1st and it would mean they have a player they're ready to sign but need to make some cap room quickly in order to fit.

I think its important to note though Habs fans, Russell is by no means a good dman anymore but he is still an NHL'er. He can step into anyone's lineup and give them good bottom 6 minutes. There may not be a ton of interest but there are some GM's who would throw a late'ish pick at EDM for Russell. Manning as bad as he is, has only 1 year left at a low cap hit. He's not really a cap dump. They could just bury him in the minors and only have 900K of cap so its really no that bad.

I think a more modest return would be draft picks instead of Poolparty in this deal. Kind of like Reilly and Hudon (or it could be other players) for Russell, Manning + 2nd 2020 + 4th 2019. Habs lose only players who don't fit their roster anymore plus get draft picks. EDM get projects who may make their roster and tons of cap space to sign a UFA at the cost of a couple draft picks.

In either case, this only happens if EDM needs the cap because they want to sign someone they don;t have the cap currently for.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 7, 2019 at 12:35 a.m.
Thread: Habs Oilers Nurse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RoadRunner72</b></div><div>Thanks for the honesty. You may be right, that he's too good to give up. But I don't think the value is all that far off. Maybe the 3rd rounder goes MTL to Edmonton instead. Essentially the Oilers get two young and relatively proven players for the price of one. They have a lot of gaps to fill with competent players, and I have no doubt Lekhonene and Juulsen are both very competent NHL players just a step down from Nurse's level.</div></div>

I think the value is pretty far off if I'm being honest. Nurse is more than a couple steps ahead of those 2 players, and Nurse seems to take a step forward every single year. I think he's without a doubt going to be Edmontons number 1 dman next year. Klef and Larsson are good, but Nurse is already on their level, and he just keeps getting better. But I appreciate your response, and I respect your opinion