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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 12:08 p.m.
Thread:
Rangers next summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>I try to have some humility about and ask for real critique instead of just flaming.</div></div>
Yep! All of my captions say feel free to disagree but do it kindly
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
Thread:
Ready for the season to start
Bruins may accept, but might need the 1st to be a 2nd and a 3rd or something, unclear, but not bad
That said, idk why the flames want ANOTHER LW, like I get that you are trading him to the Sabres, but why not just send Monahan to the Sabres
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
Thread:
BOS 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Just because you guys drafted Frederic in the 1st round doesn’t make him good. 5 points in 59 games isn’t good. It makes zero sense to trade for assets you don’t want. Not sure how many times I’ve said but if you want to make it more appealing, trade DeBrusk to someone who wants him and include that return in a Hertl trade.</div></div>
LMAOOO thank you, proved my point
Freddy had 5 points in 59 both Kakko and Lafrenier had less than 20 points in their Rookie years. Is Kakko worth a 2nd? Is Laf worth a 2nd?
Of course not !
So get out of here with your lack of thinking
Come back once you have thought about it with reality
I agree that the Sharks dont want debrusk, IDK what everyone keeps making those trades. And idk why you said "You", i dont care, im just explaining why bruins would reject it lol
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.
Thread:
Im a Flyers Fan PT3
I like the effort, but yeah bruins reject all of those trades.
They dont meet the needs value-wise or piece-wise
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.
Thread:
Im a Flyers Fan PT3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zyyyp</b></div><div>Sure, Devils take that</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeuck75</b></div><div>DEAL from NSH!!!!! Then we flip DeBrusk for more assets</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Simply put, this is a disaster:
1. Granlund is more of a winger, no?
2. You’re giving up the moon for a third liner.
3. PK stinks
4. He’s not a LD
Just kind of a mess.</div></div>
Guys, this doesnt matter, these trades are all rejected by the bruins.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 11:09 a.m.
Thread:
BOS 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodfella</b></div><div>Why doesn't Boston do that then?</div></div>
Major overpay. Again people are severly underrating Debrusk because he had on off year due to COVID and dealing with an injury to begin the year.
But yeah could accomplish the same trade for less
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Nothing in that deal says “too good to pass up”</div></div>
Debrusk, Freddy, and a 1st is an overpayment,.
Again in they dont like the pieces, I get it, but in terms of value, its too good to pass up, it literally is lol
And just to make sure its obivously explained so you guys dont call me "moron" or anything dumb. Hertl is a UFA after the season, he is a rentla at the moment so his value is even less. This is an overpay if he wasn't a rental, as a rental, he will cost even less.
And again, just to cover myself because I can already see yall being annoying, Debrusk is an RFA so his value is NOT lower
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
Thread:
Rangers next summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>It's nutso sometimes. Admittedly it's easier for us to criticize than to create our own. Someone is always going to go nuts on the value you project in a trade, but at the very least I try to make sure it's financially feasible for the other team or I'm not sending something they have an abundance of. The Pens have five lefty dmen under contract, yet people here keep trading us more of them and if you point it out they'll just say, "well this guy is better than what you have, so they'll find a way to make it work" and I try to state that it doesn't matter, but they'll just make some whacky arguments.</div></div>
Debrusk had a bad year due to COVID, and is still 24, and I got people saying he has hit his Cap!
Again, the Flames got Johnny and Tkachuk, and then also have two solid 3LW, so idk why people think they are a target for Debrusk
Thats two examples with the same guy, but they are good examples nonetheless.
And yeah, I have made a couple of my own, and I literally said, I know that none of what I did is actually wrong (Like we are talking about now), but obvously people can disagree with me. But again because none of what I did is factually wrong, if they want to disagree, they gotta do is respectfully.
I have been called rude for respectfully disagreeing, I have had rude people on my posts being jerks even though its fully opinion kind of stuff, and I have been called names for calling out things that are factually wrong (like the stuff we are talking about), people just dont get it lol. Just take pride in knowing that you, like myself, do get it. We are of the few that understand right from wrong, and opinion from fact
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
Thread:
BOS 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Maybe you can get Rakell for that price to fill that role! Sharks will be looking elsewhere</div></div>
Sharks would be dumb to ignore this value-wise though.
I understand its not the pieces they want, but this might be too good to pass up. Then they can flip debrusk for more
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.
Thread:
Rangers next summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>There’s gotta be something missing from that rangers trade. Did you mean for the rangers to be giving up the first? Did you mean 50% retained? There’s just no way that’s a trade you actually thought was legit.
Edit: I saw the trouba trade. I’m seeing a trend. Negative value players going for a huge price somehow. It’s a nice fantasy.</div></div>
Careful! You are gonna be called a moron for making a good point but "being rude" lol
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.
Thread:
Rangers next summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Don't most people on here?
I always love the responses, "It's a great deal, they'll find a way to move other pieces to make it work."</div></div>
Its crazy how little people think on here lol
I have seen some awful trades for some teams, and I try to point it out, and Im called some awful stuff for pointing out that "the flames dont need ANOTHER LW" or "The leafs don't have space for that player", etc...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 10:20 a.m.
Thread:
Rangers next summer
Boston obviously declines. Guys stopppppp this is getting out of hand
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 10:19 a.m.
Thread:
Lord why Gudbranson for 2mill fcuk Oh right Sutter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>markmws</b></div><div>How have I been childish???? Look, this conversation is over. At no point did you use any facts: they were opinions. And we had ours. I never got mad, I just stated opinions, which at no point disparaged or demeaned you in any way. Stop telling me or us that we are childish when you are the one who uses "LMAO" in their messages to demean us. "logic" should not be in your name.
Good luck. I hope, at some point, you realize that you need to grow up. Because, right now, you're just not worth it.</div></div>
Dude, wow this is embarrasing. Anyone looking in from the outside can literally see me being the mature one
I have never seen someone so immature that they tell ME to grow up.
Damn, learn
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
Thread:
Lord why Gudbranson for 2mill fcuk Oh right Sutter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Do you even read? I am saying he is in his prime now, as in he is probably not going to get much better (if at all) than he already is. I very clearly said this. All you are doing now is trying to change what I said so you can hurl insults at me
Also another example of how you are once again not at all respectful, you are the only one being toxic in this thread</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>markmws</b></div><div>But that's your opinion, right? The other person is entitled to their opinion, too. We don't put "lol" to prove a point. There are plenty of ideas from people on this site that I disagree with. However, I try my hardest not to add to that discourse by egging someone on with an "lol" or "that's the worst thing I've ever heard," because that simply doesn't add to your argument or casts you in a positive light.
Well said. :)</div></div>
Lmao no, a 24 year old can and probably will still grow. He is not nearly in his prime yet and thats the point.
And yeah, if it is an opinion, dont get mad at me when I use facts to friggin argue my side lol
Its childish
guys stop. You are showing your true colors
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.
Thread:
Hertl final offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>I’d love to hear how he’s a desirable assets I’m all for discussion yet you say it like “we’re dumb” (you aren’t saying that directly) but because it’s “obvious” somehow.
Because of being a fan of hockey, not just my team, Debrusk isn’t an obvious valuable asset. A valuable asset would be Beecher (tho I dislike him, he does hold some up side dispute an unlucky 2020) or your first.</div></div>
Read the comment below
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Fans and front offices have different views. Fans are short sighted, recency bias and sentimental thinkers. Front offices are none of that.
Debrusk and Beecher were both playing though injuries to start the year and both ended up getting Covid, which Beecher was shut down for.
Go luck at Debrusk’s career numbers and 82 game averages compared to Labanc. Debrusks are better and SJ fans think Labanc is worth a 1st +.
I would not swap Beecher 1 for 1 for any SJ prospect after Eklund. 🤷🏻♂️
Other teams can make better offer, every team always can, even the least talented. Will they is the bigger question. Most won’t be in position to make an offer which makes it irrelevant if they can.
In the end they will get a few offers and take the best or the one that best suits them. The idea that any team does not have the ability/pieces to trade for anyone is laughable. Again…a fan thing. But fans aren’t rational.</div></div>
This is the point, and the fact that you are arguing with Gofnut, who is actually one of the few people on here that thinks and does their research, just goes to show why I so passionately defend Debrusk. People just don't think. im not a bruins fan, i dont care. Its just a matter of the people on here that are tryna call debrusk a "cap dump" and its stuff like that that just infuriates me and all of the other logical fans out there. People gotta start thinking
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 13, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
Thread:
Getting that 2c
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Petey232323</b></div><div>Debrusks value doesn't suck. but neither does the best AHLer last year, a 2nd, and a 6th.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jupetto</b></div><div>Debrusk doesn't suck, SJ simply does not need wingers. The deal doesn't make sense for us.</div></div>
Lmao not specifically you two, there are a bunch of others on this website that literally thinks he has no value. And thats the point i cant deal with yall unrealistic people lmao, its ruins the website
Maybe you two are different, like myself, but yeah bruins do not accept this trade. No reason to, the value stinks and they are just downgrading Debrusk significantly for a 2nd? it makes no sense
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs
Why would the bruins want Dermott, like just think for a second
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
Thread:
Hertl final offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Won’t get Hertl.
Only Boston is high on Debrusk and Beecher had a rough 2020 and isn’t good.
Much better offers out there and SJS legit doesn’t need a winger in Debrusk.
I’m general for everything else;
Boston won’t be able to beat any offers for Hertl.</div></div>
Cool then bruins dont get Hertl, but certainly not overpaying for him.
And no Boston isnt the only one high on debrusk, yall are just not thinking, thats all. Its literally so obvious
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.
Thread:
Lord why Gudbranson for 2mill fcuk Oh right Sutter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div><strong>Prime</strong> and <strong>potential</strong> are <strong>not</strong> the same thing. LMAO,
He is 24 and turns 25 in a month, plus he has been in the league for 4 years now. It is very unlikely he takes another step forward in development at this point, hence "pretty well past his 'has potential' point by now." You cant keep acting like he's a prospect. Can he bounce back? Probably, I see him as a solid middle 6 40-45 point offensive winger, not much more though. Is it possible for him to exceed that? Yes but unlikely, refer to my Sam Bennett comparison that you quoted. You can also refer to Drouin as well for a similar player in a similar situation.
This is all "logic" that you are so adamant on using.
Also the word is "obnoxious" not "abnoxious:</div></div>
Prime is when someone has reached their potential.
thats literally the sports definition
damn you are ruthlessly dumb
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
Thread:
Getting that 2c
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Petey232323</b></div><div>lol.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Debrusk is nearly scraps himself if we’re gonna call that a solid Hertl trade when Dvorak got more and is “worse”.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jupetto</b></div><div>oh my...</div></div>
Guys, what is wrong with yall.
24 year old kid has an off-year with COVID, and yall try to say his value sucks
Meanwhile, Eichel literally wants out of Buffalo, is injured and will not play for them, and im yelled at for undervaluing him when I am STILL overvaluing him.
Stop tryna be annoying until yall have thought and done research. These comments were all useless and moronic
lmao "lol." , "oh my...", ha get out of here you losers lmao
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 3:27 p.m.
Thread:
4 2C options
Bruins reject all of those. You are severely undervaluing Debrusk still, but its not awful.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
Thread:
Lord why Gudbranson for 2mill fcuk Oh right Sutter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I am not saying he is 100% past his point of potential, its just very likely that what he has shown so far is probably his ceiling. Flames literally just traded Sam Bennett who when moved to Florida was fantastic. It it totally possible for DeBrusk to do that too but it probably won't be with the Bruins and right now his value is very likely around the same as what Bennett was traded for. Backlund is still definitely worth more than what Bennett was moved for.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I never called him past his prime, wtf? You are completely changing the narrative to justify your actions.
That was also definitely not at all respectful</div></div>
"Come on man, DeBrusk is pretty well past his "has potential" point by now" - You
Dude you are so abnoxious lmao
I cant stand people like you, glad to know im good though
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
Thread:
bruins
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LogicOnly</b></div><div>Awful trade, bruins take that and run but why would columbus do that?
And yeah, this just makes it abundantly clear that I am NOT a bruins fan, and certianly not Biased in any way lol</div></div>
The fact that I gotta do this is annoying, but yeah:
<a href="/users/ledge_and_dairy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@ledge_and_dairy</a> <a href="/users/vikhodush" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@vikhodush</a> <a href="/users/gofnut999" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@gofnut999</a>
Not a bruins fan, not biased, none of that. Just real
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.
Thread:
Getting that 2c
Bruins dont want scraps for debrusk, try again
Solid trade for Hertl!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Klara</b></div><div>SJ absolutely does not consider DeBrusk, 2023 1st, and Frederic for Hertl.</div></div>
Good cuz thats an overpay and bruins reject it first
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.
Thread:
bruins
Awful trade, bruins take that and run but why would columbus do that?
And yeah, this just makes it abundantly clear that I am NOT a bruins fan, and certianly not Biased in any way lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 2:55 p.m.
Thread:
Hertl final offer
Accurate trade: Debrusk, Beecher, and a 2nd
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