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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 16, 2020 at 9:14 a.m.
Thread: Laine Little for Palmieri Butcher Retained
Wow Jets fans are going to be very disappointed with their return if this thread is in an indication.

I don’t think the Devils pursue Laine unless the majority of the value comes from taking on the 5/26 left on Littles contract. To take on that kind of contract with the injury risk associated to a 31 yr old who already won’t play in 2020 is massive. The price for it in this covid market is incalculable.

Plus $2.3 for Palms who scored more than Laine the last two seasons while Laine “learned to be a more complete player” (like Palms is already) and $2 for Butcher is great value.

Maybe there’s still a team willing to take on $7 AAV AND send a giant return. With 98% of the cap used already, I doubt it. Good luck Jets, sorry he doesn’t want to stay, Devils fans know what that’s like.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread: Pietrangelo 8 Yrs 9 AAV- 4th to STL and New Lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I have seen it verified. You're not getting a pick :)</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07 </b></div><div>I havent spoken on it 'definitively." I have only shared what I have heard the GM say.</div></div>

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Let’s go Rangers! 😈😂 but also good luck to Sami!
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
Thread: Pietrangelo 8 Yrs 9 AAV- 4th to STL and New Lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DevilsFanInTX</b></div><div>Yikes man. Comparing Peitrangelo to Stevens is a massive stretch. Just out of curiosity, did you watch the Devils in the 90s/00s? I’m curious what you think makes their games so similar.

Agreed with above about giving a 30 year old a 7/8 year deal. No thanks.
I love the optimism here! We need more of this.</div></div>

I think it’s less of a stretch than you think. Stevens is inarguably a higher pedigree player when the Devils acquired him than Pietrangelo currently is. But both were top 5 picks, produced roughly 450 points in their first 10 seasons. Stevens point production was more impressive as those were his age 18-28 seasons versus 20-30 for AP. Coincidentally they’d both be coming from STL albeit only a year there for SS, and in my scenario above the Devils were taking an odd route to acquire him, just like SS.

It’s because I was a fan of the 95 team and saw great blue liners perform well into their thirties for this team that I think a deal like this for the best available at his position is worth it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
Thread: Johnny Hockey to North Jersey
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Get him in FA or pass. No reason to give up all that and were not ready yet</div></div>

I’ve seen you and zyyyp say this on every Devils thread that dares to make moves to help the team now. Do you really think the Devils are that terrible? Did you think they were awful entering the season after Subban Hughes and Gusev? Are they all busts after disappointing seasons?

Sick and tired of it. Yes the team fell flat on its face to start the season and stuck with an awful system that consistently left their D overmatched. But this is the NHL, there is really great parity. Look at all the teams who have traded future firsts and crashed.

I get you’re probably upset that the season sucked and they will likely lose the lotto tomorrow, but if you’re going to act as an authority on what the Devils might do this offseason, and comment on every post, at least give them a chance.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2020 at 8:19 p.m.
Thread: Johnny Hockey to North Jersey
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kresco</b></div><div>Flames pass. Offer up NJ 2020 first and we consider it but def not for vancouvers.

You are offering:
A 25 year old averaging 25 pts a year
A mid / late mid pick (17th overall)
An ok prospect who has not shown that he can handle the big leagues

For

An all star who averages 74 pts a season and is a premier set up man

Just so the flames can offload a bad contract?

Pass</div></div>

I think your description of the Devils package is fair (which is rare, this board often gets snarky).

Your description of Gaudreau is also fair (although only two years of control for someone you’re sure is leaving dampens it).

But calling Lucic a bad contract is an understatement when looking at likely a couple years of a flat cap in the covid era. The price to take on that 15 million commitment is at least another mid-late first. So it really hurts a team that should be in its championship window with talent up and down the lineup like Calgary.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
Thread: VAN ARI Pick Scenario and Cap Dumps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RebelCoach</b></div><div>I'm interested in that VAN cap situation. As a Devil fan, I would love to make that deal, I feel like DET does it for slightly cheaper or gives up a bit to get that 1st round pick.

Whether VAN gives up the 1st in 2020 or 2021, it doesn't matter.

Goligoski has more value than it would be seen as a toxic deal from ARI. Some team would pay for him. Likely would have to take on Grabner as a toxic deal to bring the cost down to something ARI is giving away.</div></div>

If I'm the Vancouver GM and we just lost the qualifying round and had to lose our 21 unprotected first, I would probably make whatever deal necessary to re-sign Markstrom to avoid an unlucky or disastrous year. Even a young talented team like theirs could collapse if Demko doesn't succeed right away. The Devils just saw their season go down the tubes in a month with shoddy goaltending.

I like the idea of having a veteran LHD on a short term deal to pair with Severson on the first pair, maybe bringing back Andy Greene. That is why I took a shot at Goligoski. If the Devils are willing to move on from Will Butcher for decent value (late second) they could fit in a return with Grabner. (He may not want to waive his NTC to come, but generally they waive it these days.)
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.
Thread: Swedes Raymond 6 Holtz 10 Gunler 17
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Raymond wont make it to 6 he's probably top 5 and fat chance of Krug signing with the Devils even if he did it's closer to $8 million per then $7 million per. And fat chance of Hoffman taking a 1 x 7 deal he's going to want to get paid.</div></div>

So you’re saying there’s a chance.

Unless you’re Marty McFly I’d back off the declarative statements about events in the future.

Reasoning on Hoffman contract is that this free agent market may not be flush with cash or long-term deals. No use pretending the last 3 months didn’t happen, I think everyone sees less in contracts (even Hall Petey Krug) but the super talented young RFAs like Barzal, Cirelli, Sergachev etc. So if the term isn’t there for a premium scorer like Hoffman, looking for Jeff Skinner money, then he might take a one year deal and try again next offseason with a presumably rising cap and league stability.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 9, 2020 at 10:11 p.m.
Thread: Spend that Money Pietrangelo Cirelli Dillon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>njdgrw</b></div><div>NJD isn't going to trade a 1st round pick to move Subban's contract. Montreal doesn't want him back, either. I'm sure if someone waved a 1st round pick they might reconsider, but that isn't going to happen. It's not confusing. They aren't going to throw good money after bad. If PK rebounds a little next year and he wants to move on, I'm sure they can make that happen for just some money.</div></div>

The cost to move the entirety of PK Subban’s contract was only to TRADE BACK 15 selections from Vancouver’s mid-20s pick to Montreal’s 40th pick. The Devils would not give up a first to move a contract as you keep repeating.

In this deal they trade an expensive but still useful player and 15 spots in the first round for a lesser cap dump, a third, and 2 years 5.5 million of cap space.