MadmanFromMadison

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Forum: Armchair-GMJul 30 at 9:29
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 2:07
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonDubinskyGOAT</b></div><div>Since you are so confident this generation’s greatest Hawks team would absolutely destroy the Penguins’ dynasty, let us compare the lineups. Below I will put the EA Sports ratings of each player at their peak:

Hawks:
Sharp (88) - Toews (93) - Hossa (92)
Saad (86) - Richards (88) - Kane (95)
Shaw (85) - Handzus (84) - Versteeg (85)
Bickell (84) - Kruger (83) - Bolland (84)

Keith (94) - Seabrook (89)
Campbell (89) - Byfuglien (88)
Hjalmarsson (86) - Oduya (85)

Crawford (88)
Emery (83)

Penguins:
Guentzel (87) - Crosby (97) - Sheary (82)
Rust (83) - Malkin (95) - Hornqvist (86)
Hagelin (85) - Bonino (85) - Kessel (90)
Kunitz (87) - Cullen (84) - Kunhackl (81)

Dumoulin (88) - Letang (90)
Maatta (85) - Daley (86)
Cole (84) - Schultz (87)

Murray (88)
Fleury (91)

Obviously the Hawks team on paper looks more stacked. But the Penguins during their cup run averaged 38 shots on goal per game and gave up an average of 22. Majority of the game they were moving the puck in the offensive zone, only 2 times they got outplayed. The Hawks were not as dominant in generating scoring chances during their playoff.</div></div>


Lol 2010 Hawks averaged 25 Shots against (best in the league) and 35 shots for (also best in the league) literally the best shot differential in the league

2016 Pens only had a plus 4 shot differential...

Hawks constantly controlled play in the playoffs wtf are you talking about. The west during that period was a lot more stingy defensively with Teams like LA, Detroit, Nashville being stiffling defensive systems.

Also LOL @ using EA ratings as scientific evidence no one would take Fleury over Crawford. MAF has been the worst goalie in the playoffs for what was the majority of his career.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 1:57
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonDubinskyGOAT</b></div><div>You are by far the stupidest person ever, I have never seen someone doubt Crosby’s greatness to this extent. Crosby actually played really well in the 2008 cup finals by carrying the Penguins’ offensive load. He was invisible the first 2 games but later on in the series caused a lot of trouble to Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the offensive zone by possessing the puck and generating chances with his agility and unpredictable creativity. Whenever he was on the ice the Wings were on their heels. Even though they lost it doesn’t mean he played poorly. Go back and look at the time Crosby manhandled Giroux in the 2018 opening round. What about in 2017 when he absolutely suffocated Stone? 2013 he dominated against Tavares and made some astonishing offensive plays. If what you said about Crosby is true and he actually can’t perform against big teams, then he wouldn’t be so highly recognized in the history of the game. Toews may be a more clutch performer than Crosby, but his overall skill level is far and away compared to your captain serious. Every player has poor periods, and Crosby at his worst game up against Toews and Bergeron at their peak. If we were to put peak Sid and peak Toews in a 1v1 matchup, Sid would come out on top and it wouldn’t even be close. Crosby at his best is better than Toews.</div></div>

Sid has never once come up on top against Toews. Crosby did not manhandle Giroux in 2018 he took advantage of the Flyers pathetic goaltending. Crosby didnt suffocate stone at all in 2017 lol where do you get these narratives from? Crosby consistently plays awful against Toews and that was with Sid at his best. Toews neutralized Crosby consistently you cant just cling to a made up narrative to support your ego while ignoring an entire career's worth of games against eachother Toews daddies Sid end of discussion. You can keep making up false points about Sid would do different (wont happen lol) when what has actually happened is that Sid never produced significantly at all when against Toews he is a -14 he is scored on more than he scores. The 16 Pens would not stand a chance against the 10 Hawks or the 13 Hawks both would make Sid, Malkin, and Kessel disappear in a game. They arent the best cup winner nor does Sid have a great track record against Toews. The amount of excuses you have for his sub PPG and -14 against Toews is astounding. I can at least appreciate your dedication to staying in character though being a complete clown.

Next offseason will you make another post about how the 16 Pens are still the greatest just to make yourself feel better?



Also PS your ratings that you do for NHL are also trash which makes you calling anyone else stupid an oxymoron.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 1:34
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonDubinskyGOAT</b></div><div>Leadership: Malkin <strong>Nothing says leadership like constantly getting offensive zone penalties screwing over your team discipline is a part of leadership...</strong>
Discipline- Kane
Poise- Kane
Stick Checking- Malkin <strong>Any actual stat to back this up...?</strong>
Shot Blocking- Malkin
Hand Eye- Malkin <strong> Kane has better hands</strong>
Playmaking- Malkin
Agility- Kane
Goal Scoring- Kane
Balance- Malkin <strong>Kane is never knocked down or hit</strong>
Endurance- Malkin<strong>When was the last time Geno even played 80 games? Even on a per game basis Kane plays more per game without showing signs of being tired while Geno is consistently inconsistent and floats. That means Kane has more endurance</strong>
Speed- Kane
Execution- Malkin <strong>What the crap does this even mean?</strong>
Skill Moves- Malkin <strong>Kane is much better dangler between the two</strong>
Strength- Malkin <strong>For being stronger he has some crap durability never played 80 or more games since 09</strong>
Stick Handling- Kane
Humiliation- Malkin <strong>What does this even ****ing mean lmao</strong>
Efficiency- Malkin
Domination- Malkin<strong>Malkin hasnt been the better forward since 2012... Kane has dominated Malkin in awards, scoring finishes, award nominations, from 13 onward</strong>
Explosiveness - Malkin <strong>Kane is faster and has a faster acceleration rate when it comes to skating that literally makes him more explosive than Malkin what is this assessment `</strong>

Kane and Geno are very similar players as they are both very skilled danglers. Kane has better stick handling but Malkin has more explosiveness, strength and creativity. Almost identical trophy cabinet, Malkin’s career point per game average in both regular season and playoffs is 1.18, Kane is 1.05.</div></div>


If you are going to add made up definitions when it comes to assessing players at least add a dictionary so people can understand what your deranged mind is trying to communicate.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 1:15
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonDubinskyGOAT</b></div><div>I disagree that Toews would’ve easily shut down Crosby. If you are to put Toews at his best and Crosby at his best, match them up, Crosby would dominate. There’s not even a debate to that.</div></div>

Their actual head to head stats against their respective teams shows that your oppinion is not only uninformed but is a load of crap already. Toews PPG against the Pens vs Sid at his best is .5ppg and a -14 that is literally through their entire career with Sid being the better player he cant handle defensive forwards like Toews, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Bergeron, even the Isles series he was manhandled by the Czikas, Martin, Clutterbuck line and held to a single assist that series in terms of scoring all the while being a minus 4. Even internationally for Canada Toews has been the better forward for the 2010 and 14 olympics while Crosby was MIA until the gold medal game (where Toews actually produced the entire tourney and in the gold medal games on top of it)

Sid gets shut down by Toews end of story. Thats not even mentioning that Toews's line would have Hossa and Sharp riding shotgun with him who are also great defensively while being PPG players as well they would feast on Hornqvist and Sheary and outskate them too. You have no argument here, Crosby cant handle defensively responsible players. You can mention how Sid can beat up on teams like the Devils, Sens, and a bunch of Islander teams that had DiPietro as their starting goalie until you are blue in the face that doesnt mean he has anything close to the production against those teams as he would against teams that play defense..

Sid cant handle Toews, Kopitar, Zetterberg, Barkov, Datsyuk, Bergeron etc they can shut him down and make him look pedestrian. There is a reason why Chicago has been the worst team Sid fares against LITERALLY THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE CAREER
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 12:05
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonDubinskyGOAT</b></div><div>The fact that you said Kruger is better than Malkin proves to me you are delusional, just another American who doesn’t understand hockey. I am always amazed how stupid people can be, and you are probably as **** as it can get. It’s not only about head to head match ups, Crosby and Malkin dominate Kane and Toews in individual skill, trophies and point production throughout the entirety of their careers.</div></div>


Are you stupid or can you not read? Where do you get the notion that they are better? What I said is that they would make Crosby, Malkin, Kessel non factors and shut them down my god you are illiterate. This is about the better team not the better individuals in which the Hawks would suffocate the Pens with Chicago's system and the defensive skill of Toews, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Bolland, Hjalmarsson Kruger/John Madden would prevent Crosby and Malkin from doing anything.

<strong>Im going to type in bold letters so maybe you can understand better since reading isnt your strong suit (stop eating crayons btw) Crosby and Malkin would not be able to produce against the 10 or 13 Hawks. Toews, Kruger/Madden, Bolland would prevent Crosby, Malkin and the HBK line from producing as much in a head to head that doesnt mean any of those guys are better, just that they would be able to neutralize their skill which is somehow lost on you</strong>



Different example being Sami Pahlson, Moen, and Rob Niedermeyer shutting down the Pizza line (Heatley, Spezza, Alfredsson) in the 07 Finals. Those three shut down the best line in the league that season, that doesnt mean any of those 4th liners have better skill than the Pizza line guys, just that they can shut down top opposition guys which is important when it comes to winning games. This somehow hard for you to grasp but depth guys especially guys who can matchup against a team's offensive threats and make them a nonfactor on the ice matters in a hypothetical head to head matchup.

Kruger, Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Bolland, Madden, Toews, and Hossa would be able to limit the impact Crosby, Malkin and the Kessel line would have on the ice which is why the 2016 Pens arent better they would lose in a head to head matchup even with Sid and Malkin being better individually they cant overcome the depth Chicago had those years and would have a limited impact on the ice. Just like Sid and Geno being held pointless in the Bruins series depth guys that can take out the oppositions best guys wins games even if Sid and Malkin were better than any single player on the Bruins they couldnt overcome their system and the defensive forwards.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 11:50
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonDubinskyGOAT</b></div><div>I disagree, Sid and Geno were better than Kane and Toews.</div></div>


Toews owns Crosby while Malkin wouldnt be producing against Kruger and Keith-Seabrook behind him they would be a non factors if the 16 Pens matched up while the 2010 or 2013 of the Hawks.

Prime Keith, Hjalmarsson, Seabrook, thats three Dmen better than the Pens #1 and all three would shut down any other scoring threats the Pens may have in the Malkin and Kessel(HBK line).

Chicago's system constantly suffocates the Pens time and time again, there is a reason the one team Sid and Geno are close to a combined -30 against Chicago in their careers and are barely even above .5ppg in their careers against Chicago.

Their star power would be neutralized with Toews, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Bolland, Hjalmarsson, Kruger/Madden being able to shadow any offensive threat Pit had. All the while Chicago's depth would overcome as Hossa, Sharp, Byfuglien, Versteeg, Campbell, Ladd, Bolland, are better than Kessel, Kunitz, Sheary, Bonino, Rust etc

Finally

Kane and Toews career vs the Pens

Kane: 15 GP: 21 PTS +9
Toews: 16GP 18PTS +10

Combined 31GP 39pts +19

Now here is where it gets funny

Malkin: 13GP 9 Pts -14
Crosby: 14GP 7 Pts -12
Combined 27GP: 16pts -26

Domination. Malkin and Sid cant preform against them Chicago is the worst team for both of them.

Pens depth guys are worse, their stars get suffocated when playing against chicago while Kane and Toews light them up, Chicagos 3rd, 4th, 5th and so on

End thread Pit loses which has always been the norm already
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 11:31
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bigguycom</b></div><div>Wrong
-Crosby captained a team to back to back cups while winning back to back Conn Smythe trophies.
-Their face off % is extremely comparable with a 0.9% difference favoring Toews.
-Crosby has won 12 awards vs Toews 3
-Crosby has won the Hart, Art Ross, Rocket Richard, Ted Lindsay, Lester B Pearson (Toews has not)
-Regular season PPG: Crosby 1.29 (1216 in 943) and Toews 0.86 (755 in 873)
-Regular season GPG: Crosby 0.47 (446 in 943) and Toews 0.37 (327 in 873)
-Playoffs PPG: Crosby 1.13 (186 in 164) and Toews 0.86 (110 in 128)
-Playoffs GPG: Crosby 0.4 (66 in 164) and Toews 0.31 (40 in 128)
-Playoff games played post 2014-2015: Crosby 64 and Toews 11
-Crosby has accomplished this while missing almost two full seasons due to concussion issues
- Want me to go on???</div></div>

GP post 2015 lmao could you post a more cherry picked stat?

What matters is their actual head to head since they always got matched up against one another whenever they played and spoiler alert Chicago is Crosby's nightmare. There isnt a team out there that Sid hates playing against more in terms of any stat. Never won, lost 10 straight, somehow got blown out in an outdoor game (lol at losing that) manhandled every single game, complete non factor on the ice with 7 points in 14 GP and a -12 when being shadowed by Toews. Toews embarasses Sid every time they play against each other the way Zetterberg constantly did in the 08 and 09 finals
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 28 at 11:18
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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26 at 2:49
Thread: Kessel trade
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Thread: Kessel trade