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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2020 at 8:29 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
Forum: NHLMay 10, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>You’re out to lunch.

-Prime Kunitz &gt;&gt;&gt; saad. Not even debatable. Kunitz was a first team all star his best year
-Prime Hornqvist &gt; saad. He was putting up 30 goal pace and was a force in front of the net. Saad’s best years weren’t even in Chicago.
-Dupuis at his peak in the 2012 and 2013 seasons was better than Shaw ever was on Chicago. 59 points and 38 points in the lockout season. Shaw’s most productive year on Chicago? 39 points. It’s not even close.
-laads best years were on Winnipeg. Vermette was done by the time he got to Chicago. If we’re talking CAREERS then sure, but when hags and pit played on Pitt during the 15-16 season they performed better than laad or vermette ever did on Chicago. (Laad had a great year of 49 points on Chicago early on)
-sharp vs Guenztal, interesting one, but I think Guenztal will be a better player over his whole career. This one you can argue both sides.
-Hossa and Kane forsure were better than Guenztal and Rust.
-Letang and gonchar were way better than seabrook, if you don’t think so you’re bias.
-Chicago’s D is better than Pitts but once again, guys like Campbell and Byuf were better after Chicago, so it’s a lot closer than you think.</div></div>

All those players were nothing away from Sid. Dupuis was a 20-30pt player carried by Sid. Hornqvist was a 40-50pt player while being worse than Saad defensively.

This thread is their careers since this is a best on best hence why I menioned Guerin being better keep up. Guentzel has only produced well with Sid and Malkin when he was away.

Letang and Gonchar were offense only dmen that couldnt be trusted defensively while seabrook was a rock defensively. The only thing Letang was better at seabrook was passing to Crosby on the power play. Youre also forgetting Seabrook actually made team Canada's Dcore something Letang is still yet to do I wonder why...
Forum: NHLMay 10, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
Forum: NHLMay 9, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
Forum: NHLMay 9, 2020 at 6:35 p.m.
Line by line

<strong>Saad</strong>-Toews-<strong>Hossa</strong>

Kunitz-<strong>Crosby</strong>-Hornqvist

Hawks first line shuts the Pens top line down pretty easily.
<strong>Sharp-</strong>Richards-<strong>Kane</strong>

Guentzel-<strong>Malkin</strong>-Rust

Sharp and Kane are a lot better than Guentzel and Rust despite Malkin being better than peak Brad Richards.

<strong>Ladd-Vermette</strong>-Teravainen

Hagelin-Bonino-<strong>Kessel</strong>

65+ pt Ladd and Vermette are better than Bonino and Hagelin at their peaks.

Kessel is better for right now but Teuvo still has time to surpass his 2018 season. Teuvo never leaked goals against like Kessel did and is already a PPG player but Kessel keeps the edge for now.

<strong>Shaw</strong>-Bolland-Versteeg

Dupuis-<strong>Staal-Guerin</strong>

Guerin and Staal were better in their absolute peak despite Bolland and Versteeg being 55pt players


<strong>Keith-Seabrook</strong>

Gonchar-Letang

No question peak Keith and seabrook is better than Letang-Gonchar


<strong>Campbell-Byfuglien </strong>
Dumoulin-Schultz

Not even a debate.

<strong>Timmonen-Hjalmarsson</strong>
Maatta-Daley

Again not even a debate.


<strong>Crawford </strong> Miles better than fleury in every stat.
<strong>Niemi</strong> Murray has to be vezina finalist to be better than Niemi was at his peak.

Pens have without a doubt the better center group and the two best players in Crosby and Malkin but Chicagos depth, defense, and goaltending being better are too much. There is a reason why the Pens always struggled against teams like Boston, Detroit, and most recently the isles when it came to the playoffs. Chicago has the depth to shut the best players on the Pens down while having the depth to line match against them perfectly with Toews-Hossa-Saad, Keith-Seabrook, Hjalmarsson-Campbell, etc on top of having the better goalies.

There is a reason Chicago throughly womped Pittsburgh even when the Pens had their two best teams in the cap era (16 and 18). Crawford being better than Fleury/Murray, and the fact they have had no problem containing Crosby and Malkin through out their careers while Toews and Kane consistently go off on the Pens
Forum: NHLMay 9, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.
Forum: NHLMay 9, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I think for the sake of how things played out, Im gonna put Shaw there instead of Ladd, swap Oduya and Hammer to the 2nd d line, and replace Buff with Leddy. Im going to go about this by comparing lines.
1st line :
Crosby is clearly the best player in the world, but peak Toews was up for the Selke almost every year, and prime Hossa with early cup runs saad flanks him with two amazing 2 way forwards, so im going to give the slight edge to the HAWKS for that one.
2nd line :
Malkin is the best 2c in the league, and guentzel could definitely be a 1st line player, but peak Kane is Hart and Art Ross Trophy winning forward and his playmaking next to Sharp was uncomparable, so I will call that a DRAW
3rd line (with Shaw instead of Ladd) :
Shaw and Vermette were two gritty guys who could also put the puck in the net, and Teravainen is really coming into his own as a good skill player, but prime Kessel was one of the best pure goal scorers in the game and Hagelin was one of the fastest guys as well, so Ill give the edge to the PENS
4th line :
Bickell was a great power forward before he got vertigo and Versteeg was a good speed and skill guy, but I think Staal and Talbot wouldve been able to shut them down so i think i will give the edge to the PENS
Now the defense here to me is where the difference really is. Letang and Gonchar were two of the better defensemen in the game, but Keith was up for the Norris every year and won it twice, Seabrook wasnt a slouch and came up clutch for the hawks so many times, and Oduya and Hammer were the best shutdown pairing in the league. I think the prime Hawks defense and the ability to consistently roll with whoever was out there just made it so much easier for them, and Keith still played 30 minutes a night. So for the defense, the HAWKS have the advantage
Goaltending was the only real point of contention for the hawks, but if we are talking prime, Crawford only had bottomed out at a .917 and peaked at a .929 percentage between the years of 2012 and 2018, while I dont think I have to argue anything for MAF, so while I will give the overall edge to Fleury, prime Crawford was very good
Overall, I think the defense for the hawks just makes too big of a difference for me to get over, so while it is close and goes to OT in game 7, I think I give it to the Hawks</div></div>



The only thing questionable is Fleury being better than Crawford. Flower was the worst playoff goalie for a very long time and it took him being suplanted for Pit to do anything in the post season whether it was Fleury or Vokoun. There isnt any stat you could argue Fleury was better than crawford in
Forum: Mock-DraftApr. 25, 2020 at 8:51 p.m.