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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 22, 2020 at 2:59 a.m.
Thread:
Bold offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>They don’t really have an elite D</div></div>
They also dont really need to downgrade Boqvist to Sergachev and take on a cap dump in Killorn
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
Trades
Chi declines
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 3, 2020 at 8:42 p.m.
Thread:
My central division squad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>First, Makar is great but Spurgeon is better. You could make a case for Heiskanen over Dunn. Schwartz is better than DeBrincat lol
Hope you're not serious about the last one :tearsofjoy</div></div>
Debrincat literally had more goals than that scrub Schwartz had points last season.
Last three seasons
Cat: 87 goals, 86 assists, 173pts
Schwartz: 57 goals, 95 assists, 152 pts
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 3, 2020 at 8:29 p.m.
Thread:
Poulin Makes Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Schlegel</b></div><div>Murray underperformed this year but he has 2 cups as a starter so that's a stretch. VAN keeps both goalies, Lehner stays with Vegas. Goalie market isn't that great other than Georgiev. The point I was making is that CHI needs a goalie more than a third pair defenseman, whereas for PIT it's a luxury they can afford...</div></div>
None of what you said makes any sense. Vegas isnt going to have a 15 million goalie tandem and Vancouver cant afford to pay Markstrom what he is worth while also paying the rest of their team (toffoli, Virtannen, Tanev etc,). Try looking at a teams cap structure before talking out your butt.
Goalie market isn't great for selling teams. Goalies have become an oversaturated position you dont need an elite goalie to win and Chi could make due with a lot of other goalies out there they arent limited to Mediocre stats Murray. Chicago isnt moving Mitchell for goaltending help get a clue. Its obvious you are throwing any sense of logic out the window. Chicago could literally just re-sign crow, draft Askarov, and keep Mitchell which is a lot more beneficial to them than the awful trade you are using insane mental gymnastics to justify.
Mitchell and a 2nd is too much for a goalie that struggles to even post league average stats on a consistent basis. If you want to go down the cups rout just remember Cam Ward was incredibly clutch for Carolina then look how he ended up right after
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 2, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread:
Poulin Makes Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Schlegel</b></div><div>He's behind Murphy and Boqvist, they need a goalie. They're also in a strange situation, rebuild on the fly with a couple moves needed to be a contender. Not sure if they would move him but I think it's at least in the realm of possibility</div></div>
There are better options chicago could go after instead of murray includidng but not limited to any of the Isles goalies, re-signing Lehner in FA, Demko/Markstrom, among others. They moved jokiharju for Mitchell they arent trading Mitchell and what would be a high second for a goalie that has under preformed as a starter and just had a sub .900 season. They can keep crow and just draft Askarov at 9th.
You then mention how Mitchell would be stuck as a 3rd pairing but then literally keep mitchell stuck as a 3rd pairing on the pens you arent even consistent
Forum:
NHL
May 10, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>You’re out to lunch.
-Prime Kunitz >>> saad. Not even debatable. Kunitz was a first team all star his best year
-Prime Hornqvist > saad. He was putting up 30 goal pace and was a force in front of the net. Saad’s best years weren’t even in Chicago.
-Dupuis at his peak in the 2012 and 2013 seasons was better than Shaw ever was on Chicago. 59 points and 38 points in the lockout season. Shaw’s most productive year on Chicago? 39 points. It’s not even close.
-laads best years were on Winnipeg. Vermette was done by the time he got to Chicago. If we’re talking CAREERS then sure, but when hags and pit played on Pitt during the 15-16 season they performed better than laad or vermette ever did on Chicago. (Laad had a great year of 49 points on Chicago early on)
-sharp vs Guenztal, interesting one, but I think Guenztal will be a better player over his whole career. This one you can argue both sides.
-Hossa and Kane forsure were better than Guenztal and Rust.
-Letang and gonchar were way better than seabrook, if you don’t think so you’re bias.
-Chicago’s D is better than Pitts but once again, guys like Campbell and Byuf were better after Chicago, so it’s a lot closer than you think.</div></div>
All those players were nothing away from Sid. Dupuis was a 20-30pt player carried by Sid. Hornqvist was a 40-50pt player while being worse than Saad defensively.
This thread is their careers since this is a best on best hence why I menioned Guerin being better keep up. Guentzel has only produced well with Sid and Malkin when he was away.
Letang and Gonchar were offense only dmen that couldnt be trusted defensively while seabrook was a rock defensively. The only thing Letang was better at seabrook was passing to Crosby on the power play. Youre also forgetting Seabrook actually made team Canada's Dcore something Letang is still yet to do I wonder why...
Forum:
NHL
May 10, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>Vermette and Teravainen werent big difference makers in CHI. Vermette scored 65 when he was on CBJ not CHI. Teravainen was not even close to a point per game in CHI. You cant take players career highs and apply that to their time in CHI. Thats like saying OTT is stacked since they have Bobby Ryan, Marian Gaborik, Ryan Callahan, Mikkel Boedker, Craig Anderson, Clarke MacArthur, Dion Phaneuf, and Alex Burrows.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>Vermette and Teravainen werent big difference makers in CHI. Vermette scored 65 when he was on CBJ not CHI. Teravainen was not even close to a point per game in CHI. You cant take players career highs and apply that to their time in CHI. Thats like saying OTT is stacked since they have Bobby Ryan, Marian Gaborik, Ryan Callahan, Mikkel Boedker, Craig Anderson, Clarke MacArthur, Dion Phaneuf, and Alex Burrows.</div></div>
The premise of this thread was players at their peak
Forum:
NHL
May 9, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>This is the most biased thing I’ve read in a long time. I’m just not gonna bother commenting further lol.</div></div>
Nothing biased Crawford is better than Fleury
Niemi in 2013 is a top goalie
The entire Hawks D core is better
Shaw is better than Dupuis. Ladd and Vermette are better than Bonino and Hagelin ever were throughout their careers.
Kane and Sharp are better than Guentzel and Rust. Hossa is better than Kunitz and Saad is better than Hornqvist. Nothing to really debate. Hawks had the better players and teams as a whole despite Pit having Crosby and Malkin. Seabrook is better defensively than Gonchar and Letang ever were in their careers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 9, 2020 at 6:46 p.m.
Thread:
CHI NSH trade
Throw in all of Buffalos picks in this years draft and I would maybe consider it. Mittelstadt is a bust.
Strome >>>>> Mittelstadt
Saad >>> Johansen
Forum:
NHL
May 9, 2020 at 6:44 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sidstick87</b></div><div>Would have loved to watch Sid abuse Toews for 5 or 6 games until Pens won.
Then Geno would have dominated any #2 Center of CHI.
Plus my god Gonch & Letang pairing with both in prime? My god, what a Nitemare that would have been for teams</div></div>
Toews is the one who abused Crosby
PPG against the Pens while Sid is a -15 and only has 7 pts in almos 20 games. Hawks already proven they have no problem abusing Fleury and can drop a 10 spot on Murray. Keith and Seabrook are miles better than Letang and Gonchar.
Forum:
NHL
May 9, 2020 at 6:35 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
Line by line
<strong>Saad</strong>-Toews-<strong>Hossa</strong>
Kunitz-<strong>Crosby</strong>-Hornqvist
Hawks first line shuts the Pens top line down pretty easily.
<strong>Sharp-</strong>Richards-<strong>Kane</strong>
Guentzel-<strong>Malkin</strong>-Rust
Sharp and Kane are a lot better than Guentzel and Rust despite Malkin being better than peak Brad Richards.
<strong>Ladd-Vermette</strong>-Teravainen
Hagelin-Bonino-<strong>Kessel</strong>
65+ pt Ladd and Vermette are better than Bonino and Hagelin at their peaks.
Kessel is better for right now but Teuvo still has time to surpass his 2018 season. Teuvo never leaked goals against like Kessel did and is already a PPG player but Kessel keeps the edge for now.
<strong>Shaw</strong>-Bolland-Versteeg
Dupuis-<strong>Staal-Guerin</strong>
Guerin and Staal were better in their absolute peak despite Bolland and Versteeg being 55pt players
<strong>Keith-Seabrook</strong>
Gonchar-Letang
No question peak Keith and seabrook is better than Letang-Gonchar
<strong>Campbell-Byfuglien </strong>
Dumoulin-Schultz
Not even a debate.
<strong>Timmonen-Hjalmarsson</strong>
Maatta-Daley
Again not even a debate.
<strong>Crawford </strong> Miles better than fleury in every stat.
<strong>Niemi</strong> Murray has to be vezina finalist to be better than Niemi was at his peak.
Pens have without a doubt the better center group and the two best players in Crosby and Malkin but Chicagos depth, defense, and goaltending being better are too much. There is a reason why the Pens always struggled against teams like Boston, Detroit, and most recently the isles when it came to the playoffs. Chicago has the depth to shut the best players on the Pens down while having the depth to line match against them perfectly with Toews-Hossa-Saad, Keith-Seabrook, Hjalmarsson-Campbell, etc on top of having the better goalies.
There is a reason Chicago throughly womped Pittsburgh even when the Pens had their two best teams in the cap era (16 and 18). Crawford being better than Fleury/Murray, and the fact they have had no problem containing Crosby and Malkin through out their careers while Toews and Kane consistently go off on the Pens
Forum:
NHL
May 9, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NoWah49</b></div><div>Gonna sound biased, but I got the Pens. Even if it's Richards in his peak, you can't beat the 1-2 punch of Sid and Geno. Schultz was a stud #1 d-man in the 2017 playoffs as well; he really stepped up. Plus the HBK line at it's peak might be up there for one of the best 3rd lines ever.</div></div>
Hawks had 65 pt Vermette, Point per game Teravainen and 65 pt Ladd as their third line that is instantly better than the HBK line which was Kessel carrying Bonino and Hagelin.
Chicago has 5 #1 Dman (Campbell should be there over Oduya) in Campbell, Keith, Hjalmarsson, Seabrook, and Byfuglien. Hawks defensive game shuts the Pens down while their deeper forward lines take advantange of Pits weaker blue lines and questionable goaltending in Fleury.
Even if Malkin is better than Peak Brad Richards. Sharp and Kane are still miles ahead of Guentzel and Rust to the point the advantage is nullified.
Forum:
NHL
May 9, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks vs Penguins Best Teams Of Cap Era
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I think for the sake of how things played out, Im gonna put Shaw there instead of Ladd, swap Oduya and Hammer to the 2nd d line, and replace Buff with Leddy. Im going to go about this by comparing lines.
1st line :
Crosby is clearly the best player in the world, but peak Toews was up for the Selke almost every year, and prime Hossa with early cup runs saad flanks him with two amazing 2 way forwards, so im going to give the slight edge to the HAWKS for that one.
2nd line :
Malkin is the best 2c in the league, and guentzel could definitely be a 1st line player, but peak Kane is Hart and Art Ross Trophy winning forward and his playmaking next to Sharp was uncomparable, so I will call that a DRAW
3rd line (with Shaw instead of Ladd) :
Shaw and Vermette were two gritty guys who could also put the puck in the net, and Teravainen is really coming into his own as a good skill player, but prime Kessel was one of the best pure goal scorers in the game and Hagelin was one of the fastest guys as well, so Ill give the edge to the PENS
4th line :
Bickell was a great power forward before he got vertigo and Versteeg was a good speed and skill guy, but I think Staal and Talbot wouldve been able to shut them down so i think i will give the edge to the PENS
Now the defense here to me is where the difference really is. Letang and Gonchar were two of the better defensemen in the game, but Keith was up for the Norris every year and won it twice, Seabrook wasnt a slouch and came up clutch for the hawks so many times, and Oduya and Hammer were the best shutdown pairing in the league. I think the prime Hawks defense and the ability to consistently roll with whoever was out there just made it so much easier for them, and Keith still played 30 minutes a night. So for the defense, the HAWKS have the advantage
Goaltending was the only real point of contention for the hawks, but if we are talking prime, Crawford only had bottomed out at a .917 and peaked at a .929 percentage between the years of 2012 and 2018, while I dont think I have to argue anything for MAF, so while I will give the overall edge to Fleury, prime Crawford was very good
Overall, I think the defense for the hawks just makes too big of a difference for me to get over, so while it is close and goes to OT in game 7, I think I give it to the Hawks</div></div>
The only thing questionable is Fleury being better than Crawford. Flower was the worst playoff goalie for a very long time and it took him being suplanted for Pit to do anything in the post season whether it was Fleury or Vokoun. There isnt any stat you could argue Fleury was better than crawford in
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Apr. 26, 2020 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
2018 Redraft change my mind
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Boqvist is elite offensively but he’s terrible defensively. Dobson is the best 1 v 1 defender from this draft and he drives play offensively, while not as dynamic as Boqvist. Dobson’s underlying numbers were better than Boqvist this season.</div></div>
Dobson has better underlying numbers because he plays on the Isles and their system that is like saying Ben Hutton is better than John Carlson. Advanced stats dont mean jack in the end they are still easily skewed by a team's system, strength of the team, player role, and so on.
Player for player there isnt anything Dobson is better at than Boqvist
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Apr. 26, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
Thread:
2018 Redraft change my mind
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_fan123</b></div><div>yes
dobson and bouchard are not sandin</div></div>
In what way since it is nothing hockey related at all
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Apr. 25, 2020 at 8:51 p.m.
Thread:
2003
This is one of the worst 03 redrafts ever lol
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Apr. 25, 2020 at 8:44 p.m.
Thread:
2018 Redraft change my mind
Dobson, Sandin, and Bouchard are not better than boqvist lmao
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25, 2020 at 2:08 a.m.
Thread:
2010s Decade Team
Lmao wtf is Fleury doing here? There is a good 5 goalies who should have been named before him here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25, 2020 at 2:05 a.m.
Thread:
Sharks Wild Devils
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>These Hertl deals just keep getting worse lol, not only have you removed the semi okay prospect and downgraded the pick to a far worse one(with protection now!), but you also added a Dman we dont need and no other teams want! Awesome deal</div></div>
A majority of the acgm threads are ass with horrifically dumb users
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
Thread:
Goaltending Change and Bottom 6 Size
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Torontoleafs15</b></div><div>Lmao there is gonna be a cbo so they can cbo staal. They can also trade one of their goalies. Also could trade one of their defenseman or forwards. Before you criticize someone why don't u do ur reaserch:hushed. Don't be mad that u won't get lehner. Ahahahabbab</div></div>
There is nothing confirmed about a CBO yet keep trying maybe one day you will post something half true one day but not yet clown. The Canes have too many players to sign and have to make a run for lehner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.
Thread:
Goaltending Change and Bottom 6 Size
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Torontoleafs15</b></div><div>He wants to get 7mil +. Carolina can easily offer him 7mil</div></div>
Not when they have only 15 players signed, 2 goalies signed for next year, and only 11 million in space. Christ dude do some research first
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread:
Goaltending Change and Bottom 6 Size
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Torontoleafs15</b></div><div>Lehner wants to get paid. Not take a discount</div></div>
Lehner cares more about term than money
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 20, 2020 at 7:45 p.m.
Thread:
HOF locks- read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>Yeah you’re right hossa probably makes it. Though I think both of them shouldn’t</div></div>
Hossa should, 3 titles, worse players than him already in the hall, pretty good international career for Slovakia and helped a 7-8th ranked country contend for a medal. If he is canadian he doesnt make it but being european and from a non big 5 hockey country helps him in this case helps him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 19, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread:
HOF locks- read description
Hossa isnt on the bubble. He isnt a first ballot but he is a lock to be in he has a much better case than Marleau who you have as a lock for some reason.
They both are in the 1100pt range and there is only 30-40pts separating Marleau and Hossa despite Marleau playing over 1700 games while Hossa played 1300. Thats not even factoring in how more dominant Hossa was on both ends
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 19, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
Thread:
Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kopiino</b></div><div>Most of our defensemen suck and are 7th Ds. Koekkoek, however, does not.</div></div>
Lmao this cant be real life
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