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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 11:43 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>He wants to play center and that’s not happening on Pittsburgh</div></div>

Have not seen that

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 11:34 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>I’m just a guy that’s not real big on bringing malcontents and then doing exactly what they were doing in the last place they were in doesn’t make sense to me</div></div>

I agree but Kapanen/Rust are no Laine/Wheeler

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 11:02 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>Probably started by someone in Winnipeg to jack up the price</div></div>

“JR is interested, better offer a first to match”

Kind of makes sense but I do think the fit is there outside of usage concerns

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 11:00 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>I just don’t see going after a guy complaining about playing Third line winger minutes instead of top 6 center minutes being happy with 4th line winger minutes I sense some really bad ju ju on this idea</div></div>

I can agree with this but the rumor is out there

In theory he would be the first up when injuries happen and/or if Kap doesn’t fit or Rust continues to struggle

Also put him on the second power play intentionally

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:29 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>You're better off keeping Sceviour and Riikola then if they are so valuable and you don't value. To Winnipeg both hold zero interest and even less value due to age and contract. As I said Roslovic will be moved for a young player.

Just makes me wonder why you want Roslovic so badly when he isn't worth anything according to you and you are willing to give up old players that hold such superior value to Pittsburgh.</div></div>

Absolutely bizarre comment

Definitely not the biggest Roslovic fan but there's a seemingly legitimate rumor out that Pittsburgh had interest so I was spitballing on a fair trade, if that upsets you I would recommend just ignoring it

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:14 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>The second is nice, but Sceviour is waiver wire fodder. The 6th is far more valuable than Sceviour. The Jets would want a young, equaled skilled defenseman.</div></div>

Sceviour is a legitimate upgrade over guys like Appleton, Lewis, Thompson getting minutes in the Jets bottom 6 so no idea where the waiver wire comment comes from

An equally skilled defenseman would be someone like Riikola, who I mentioned before. Winger that can't crack the top 6 for defenseman that can't crack the top 4

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:57 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Definite no from Winnipeg. Sceviour does nothing for Winnipeg.</div></div>

Would be a significant upgrade on what they rolled out for their fourth line tonight, and you also ignored the 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:54 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>I think Ros is worth more than a throwaway F and a 3rd?????</div></div>

You gave the value of a 2nd+... I don't even think McCann is worth that. Fair value on Roslovic maybe a 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:51 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>I've literally not spoken about Roslovic's draft position... OS don't happen for defamatory reasons.</div></div>

Offersheets don't happen but they are useful gauges of approximate value, which is more the point I was making

I'm assuming you're overrating Roslovic off of his draft position as I'm not sure why else you would have such a high value on him. Think he's worth less than McCann having watched both, and don't even have that high of a value on McCann

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:44 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>I don't think Riikkola wild fit Winnipeg because of the age difference. Jets lose too much value on age alone there.

& just because they're scouting them doesn't mean it has to be a roster player they're after. Where else can they scout right now? Can't scout AHL or junior and can't travel overseas. They literally HAVE to scout the NHL team</div></div>

Don't really see age as mattering much here... but the difference between Riikola and Roslovic is virtually the same as Roslovic and POJ, which is what you proposed...

The real value is the ELC, which POJ has and Roslovic does not. With the upcoming expansion draft I really don't see that making any sense for Pittsburgh

In terms of scouting, they could also choose not to. Only four teams scouted that game. Just being in the rink says they have some interest in the players on the ice

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:34 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>Jets have been said to been wanting a d-man for Roslovic. I could see a swap of Roslovic and maybe a lower pick (5th-7th) for Pierre-Olivier Joseph making sense. POJ is blocked by Pittsburgh's d-man for awhile so he might be available and it suits what the Jets are looking for</div></div>

Could see Riikola but doubt POJ would be available, org is pretty high on him

Winnipeg was scouting last game, so assume they would be looking at someone that played in that game

Also doesn't really make sense for Pittsburgh to add a forward without moving one out

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:20 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Not quite. I feel Sceviour is a waiver level player, and a Roslovic is worth a 2nd +</div></div>

I think you're underrating Sceviour and overrating Roslovic based off of his draft position

A team could've offered Roslovic an offer sheet on the higher end of the 2nd round compensation bracket and Winnipeg wouldn't have matched it, that's where his value maxes out

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:38 am

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Roslovic should fetch more than a throwaway F and a 3rd tho. (Don't argue, No one is lining up for Sceviour)</div></div>

Don’t think we’re disagreeing honestly

Think Sceviour is worth around a 4th and put the combined 3rd+4th package at the value of a late 2nd, which is where I think Roslovic falls

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:04 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>WPG can do much better than this.</div></div>

They would have moved him by now if someone was offering a first

Sceviour and Roslovic’s best seasons are nearly identical, the 3rd is a payment for upside

Could maybe see a 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:03 pm

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>Not nearly enough.
Roslovic is pretty comparable to McCann honestly.

I’d consider Riikola + Poulin for him. Play him with Geno and slide Rust down.</div></div>

Poulin? Yikes

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:27

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No, but there's not enough there to make Winnipeg do it unless there was nothing else available and the Jets we're dead set on moving Roslovic. Sceviour as 31 year old rental isn't worth much.</div></div>

Don't see many teams beating that offer, and sure seems like they don't intend to sign him

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:14

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>I don't see Winnipeg trading Roslovic to make themselves older and worse with a rental they don't need.</div></div>

Did you just ignore the 2nd round pick? Sceviour is also a more natural fit for the role they were forcing Roslovic into, prevents them from needing to acquire a new penalty killer

edit: assumed Roslovic was a penalty killer there but was not, Sceviour still more of a bottom 6 fit

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:08

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>No the article on sportsnet mentions left shot, which is odd</div></div>

Yeah no idea, assumed Heinola was ready

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:07

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>The jets want a left shot top.4 dman for him, gotta think they work hard in that before doing a deal like this</div></div>

Think you mean right and if someone was offering that he would've been moved by now

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:06

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>yeah I don't think he's worth a 2nd to be honest.
Where does he fit. He's not really a center. He's a wing. I'd rather just play Poulin who has more upside.</div></div>

Another potential 3C option or fills the hole at 3RW. Not sure Poulin is ready and they're still in win now mode

If Kapanen doesn't fit with Crosby he could get a look there. I'd take a flyer for a 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:05

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad21</b></div><div>Well,Iguess not,but still they’re not the type a to trade a 2nd for a 4th/3rd liner.</div></div>

Roslovic is a 2nd/3rd liner and JR absolutely loves trading draft picks

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 12:00

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad21</b></div><div>The Pens are a rebuilding team and they’re trading away a 2nd plus for a random player?</div></div>

Pens are rebuilding? News to me

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 30, 2020 at 11:58

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad21</b></div><div>I’d say...nah.</div></div>

Don't think a team sends a first for him so 2nd plus seems most likely

Sceviour's career numbers aren't wildly different, obviously upside is there for Roslovic

Forum: Armchair-GMDec 28, 2020 at 5:56

Thread: If Poulin Is Ready

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>idk he couldn't make the Canada WJ team doubt he will add much to the Penguins bottom 6.... i could be wrong.</div></div>

Would’ve made any team but Canada, not like he missed out to a later round pick. He was also one of the last cuts

Forum: Fauteuil - DGDec 28, 2020 at 2:39

Thread: Armia to PIT

A ways off on value, Poulin has by far the most there

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