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Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:19 pm

Thread: Best Case

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>u cant compare a 4th liner to a 1st liner. I can tell your hockey logic is flawed as Dumo and Pet are 2 top 4 Dman. Malkin is a top 6 player and Doumelin is a bottom 6 which are completly different

Also penguins are in win now mode this year as per Burke things are changing next season Especially with Malkins contract being up.</div></div>

*Dumoulin, and he's a defenseman

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:13 pm

Thread: Best Case

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I watch them both and heres the thing. Pet is only 24, Doumelin is 29. Pet has had multiple 20 point seasons with the penguins, Doumelin had one 3 years ago.

Keeping an aging Dman who has been injury prone these last 2 seasons in order to lose a younger Dman who has shown he can play top 4 and has chemistry with Marino is pure insanity. Dumoulin only has 2 years left, Petterson has 3 and will be 27 at the deals end.

Would rather go younger than keep an aging guy as the penguins need to start the process of rebuilding soon as Crosby and Malkin aint getting any younger.</div></div>

So using that same logic, would you also protect Blueger over Malkin

Dumo is a way better player and Pens are in win now mode, so losing Dumo makes zero sense

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:05 pm

Thread: Best Case

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Absolutely yes, Doumelin has been injury prone these last 2 years and honestly with how Matheson has been we can move on from him now. Why would u move a 24 year old on a good contract to keep an aging Dman with only 2 years left. Penguins got to start planning for the future and honestly getting younger is not a bad thing.</div></div>

Dumo is a legit #2, giving him to Seattle would be insane

Pettersson isn't even half the player

Are you sure that you watch them both?

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:01 pm

Thread: Best Case

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>would rather send Dumoulin to Seattle and keep younger Pettersson</div></div>

absolutely not

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 30 at 10:51

Thread: Bennett

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>Bennett isn't worth it IMO. He had a rough year last year and isn't backing out. His even strength production this season matched Rodrigues, but Rodrigues has played 14 less games. He underlying numbers aren't great either. If we are going to spend a 3rd I'd like it to be on someone who isn't playing replacement level hockey.</div></div>

For a 2022 3rd it’s worth a chance

He’s still young and change of scenery trades have worked before

Playoff stats are really the main point to focus on

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 30 at 12:08

Thread: Bennett

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I think the problem teams have in trading for Bennett is that he's a rental.
How do you put a fair offer on a rental 4th liner who isn't playing well. It's like a 5th or 6th.
As it stands right now his QO is $2,550,000. No team is going to hand him 2.6 million. At least no team with an intelligent GM. There in lies the problem with why CGY is gonna have a hard time moving him.</div></div>

If Lemieux goes for a 4th, he's worth a 3rd. Don't think the valuation on him is actually the hard part, it's more finding a fit

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 14 at 1:29

Thread: Sell

Kap worth a lot more than Hall at the moment

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 13 at 9:54

Thread: Virtanen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>keep your day job?</div></div>

tough crowd

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 13 at 6:39

Thread: Virtanen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I think he's hurt, you wouldn't see him play well till next year. He probably needs surgery and is delaying. So I don't think he'll "fit in." At least not this year.
I think VAN probably knows that, nd hence won't trade him. That's my guess.</div></div>

...that was a joke

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 13 at 6:34

Thread: Virtanen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>Kinda Rathbone has looked legit and probably makes the team next year and Juolevi looked pretty good until Green decided to play Benn instead for some reason. Edler has also been excellent and could come back next year</div></div>

Yeah I assumed Edler was gone next year

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 13 at 6:33

Thread: Virtanen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>MP is worth more, and Virtanen I think is hurt. Hence his huge drop in numbers. So pass.</div></div>

Think the pick evens out value, maybe could see a 2nd

Virtanen would fit right in

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 13 at 6:31

Thread: Virtanen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>We'll just take a pick instead. Our left side is kinda clogged</div></div>

Is it? I thought Schmidt preferred the right side

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 9 at 10:15

Thread: Debrusk

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>Since we get a top4 D, I wouldn't mind it. But Pettersson doesn't have much offense to offer and I would have liked a two-way D. Bruins would also need to find a top6 LW after that. How has Pettersson been this season?</div></div>

Like Debrusk, Pettersson has struggled this year

Not really a true offensive or defensive guy though, looked to be pacing towards a 30ish point two way #4 but has stalled out this season

Some of his issues might be the logjam at LD in Pittsburgh, he's getting different matchups this year playing behind Matheson/Dumo/POJ

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 9 at 10:04

Thread: Debrusk

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>It pretty much screws Boston for expansion, unless they go 8-1 and protect Pasta, Marchand, Bergeron and Coyle.</div></div>

Fair concern, but I think if he plays well enough to warrant protection that would mean they won the trade

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 28 at 3:06

Thread: Gusev No Zucker

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Obviously the Pens are better off with both Gusev and Zucker, but if Zucker is done for the season, then a one for one gives NJ a replacement for next year, and lets the Devils see what they have this year, and draft accordingly.</div></div>

Huh? Can’t trade injured players and Zucker is worth a ton more

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 28 at 10:29

Thread: Gusev Healthy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>NJD declines. If we trade Gusev, we could do better than Riikola.</div></div>

The deal is a 2nd for Gusev and a 4th for Riikola

You aren’t going to do better than a 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 19 at 2:25

Thread: Fourth Line Upgrades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chigurrhh</b></div><div>Trading McCann for a player who isn't as good as McCann isn't an upgrade.</div></div>

Not sure that I agree Bennett is worse, they’re very different players style wise. Less points? Sure

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 19 at 2:24

Thread: Fourth Line Upgrades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>All these run McCann out of town posts.

The guy has been out there with no help, not only in the forward group but on the blueline as well.
It's ok, he's not McDavid he can't carry 4 other guys. But that doesn't mean you run the guy out after he's played well.</div></div>

Is trading him for a potential better fit running him out?

I just don’t see where he fits in Pittsburgh

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 11:43

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>He wants to play center and that’s not happening on Pittsburgh</div></div>

Have not seen that

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 11:34

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>I’m just a guy that’s not real big on bringing malcontents and then doing exactly what they were doing in the last place they were in doesn’t make sense to me</div></div>

I agree but Kapanen/Rust are no Laine/Wheeler

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 11:02

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>Probably started by someone in Winnipeg to jack up the price</div></div>

“JR is interested, better offer a first to match”

Kind of makes sense but I do think the fit is there outside of usage concerns

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 11:00

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>I just don’t see going after a guy complaining about playing Third line winger minutes instead of top 6 center minutes being happy with 4th line winger minutes I sense some really bad ju ju on this idea</div></div>

I can agree with this but the rumor is out there

In theory he would be the first up when injuries happen and/or if Kap doesn’t fit or Rust continues to struggle

Also put him on the second power play intentionally

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 10:29

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>You're better off keeping Sceviour and Riikola then if they are so valuable and you don't value. To Winnipeg both hold zero interest and even less value due to age and contract. As I said Roslovic will be moved for a young player.

Just makes me wonder why you want Roslovic so badly when he isn't worth anything according to you and you are willing to give up old players that hold such superior value to Pittsburgh.</div></div>

Absolutely bizarre comment

Definitely not the biggest Roslovic fan but there's a seemingly legitimate rumor out that Pittsburgh had interest so I was spitballing on a fair trade, if that upsets you I would recommend just ignoring it

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 10:14

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>The second is nice, but Sceviour is waiver wire fodder. The 6th is far more valuable than Sceviour. The Jets would want a young, equaled skilled defenseman.</div></div>

Sceviour is a legitimate upgrade over guys like Appleton, Lewis, Thompson getting minutes in the Jets bottom 6 so no idea where the waiver wire comment comes from

An equally skilled defenseman would be someone like Riikola, who I mentioned before. Winger that can't crack the top 6 for defenseman that can't crack the top 4

Forum: Armchair-GMJan 18 at 9:57

Thread: Roslovic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Definite no from Winnipeg. Sceviour does nothing for Winnipeg.</div></div>

Would be a significant upgrade on what they rolled out for their fourth line tonight, and you also ignored the 2nd

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