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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
Thread: Bag Terry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Yeah, I’m considering all of that which is why I said that might be what it would take for ANA to move the kid but it also wouldn’t ever be considered from CAR vantage point if they’re expecting Necas AND two firsts. That’s just a bonkers price regardless of them being in the latter half of the draft.

If I’m moving Necas in this deal it’s Necas a second and a B prospect for Terry at best. Which gets shot down and we go out separate ways. Terry is better but the difference isn’t that big.

Btw the definition of basis is that’s a starting point which makes your comment read like CAR starts there and potentially adds more. Hope that clears it up for you.</div></div>

“In my eyes, value should be closer to two 1sts and Necas for Terry. I’d use that as a basis of a trade” is what I said.

Basis definition being “the underlying support or foundation for an idea, argument, or process.”

Which means my comment should read that Necas plus the firsts for Terry should be the foundation of the trade (the trade as a whole, not specifically just the CAR package).

Your offer of Necas + 2nd + B prospect probably isn’t enough. But now we are being hypocritical as to what’s the difference between two late firsts versus a 2nd and B prospect? B prospects come from 1st round picks all the time (especially late late firsts). Are we talking a late 2nd? Early 2nd? There’s not a whole lot of difference between pick #28 and pick #34 (CAR owns PHI 2024 2nd rd pick)
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2023 at 7:23 a.m.
Thread: Bag Terry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Two firsts and Necas for Terry? How much better is Terry than Necas all things considered? I get why ducks wouldn’t move him unless they got an overpay but both the deal offered in the thread and your proposal are pretty bad deals for the canes.</div></div>

Like you said, ANA aren’t motivated to move Terry unless they felt it was an overpay. Terry is the better player, there’s no debate there. You’re also not considering that those two firsts are late late last 4-5 picks of the round ( marginally better than say two ARI 2nds).

You should also read over the last sentence of my comment again and familiarize yourself with the definition of “basis”. Maybe ANA needs to throw in a 3rd rd pick, maybe a prospect, who knows, but the package I noted is what I’d expect the framework of this hypothetical deal to be.

You’re more than welcome to chime in and outline what your trade package expectations to be