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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 20, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.

Thread: MEIER

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sleeparc</b></div><div>You're not getting him without a high end prospect. That is the ask. Grier is happy to re-sign him if the offers are not up to par.</div></div>

... Is Meier?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 20, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.

Thread: MEIER

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RasmusASSplund</b></div><div>I don’t think you’ll need to part with Holtz to get Meier.

There’s not a lot of teams who are contending who can afford the QO. Carolina sees him only as a rental, NJD can and Buffalo was only just checking in.

Meier will get a 2023 first and a A~ to B+ prospect and a mid tier roster player. He will be viewed as a rental by the majority of teams</div></div>

Carolina is set up to have more cap space than NJ in the offseason. Carolina is also likely get a better price because they're willing to trade him without an extension, while Fitz isn't.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 20, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.

Thread: Fair Trade for Meier

Sharks should take that if they're really digging for guys like Mercer/Jarvis and can't get them. Although I'd argue that they Jets shouldn't make this trade for the same reason Mercer/Jarvis shouldn't be available.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.

Thread: NJ RUN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>python3504</b></div><div>Would the team have the cap space to sign him for 9-9.5X8?</div></div>

Yes. How much money he gets will hurt the re-signings that can made for our UFAs though. Worst-case scenario for cap casualties would be losing Graves, Wood, Severson, Tatar, Haula, Blackwood and replacing them with the pipeline. Graves and Tatar are the only guys I'd really only be interested in bringing back though depending on price.

I'd be surprised if Fitz were to trade for Meier if he's looking for that much though. He'll look for cheaper options.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2023 at 1:56 a.m.

Thread: Timo Meier

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>Hypothetical here.
But what if MTL RS of 50% then SJS rs of 50%?
How much more is that worth to NJD?

It would give you 4m cap to acquire a full 23 man roster and a 7th Defensman for your rotation.
It would also buy MTL favor in a Karlsson deal</div></div>

The hope is that Hughes can jump right in and Smith would be the 7th defenseman. I'm sure SJ would also take back AJ if he helped get the deal done. Regardless, cap shouldn't be much of an issue in a Meier to NJ deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.

Thread: Another First Round Exit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>He is a -19 GSAA over the last 3 years its not scoring he is a bad goalie.

He is a 1 million dollar goalie</div></div>

He sure did play terrible last season with a heel so inflamed that his skates didn't even fit. And you really think SV% is a good stat to evaluate a goaltender?...

Really don't care at all if he's back in NJ or not next season. But he's at least an average goaltender (when healthy). NJ's got a low bar for what goaltending is good enough, and being average is good enough.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.

Thread: Another First Round Exit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>He doesnt. He is 26, statistically one of the worst full time goalies in the nhl since thebstart of last year and has a 3.36 million QO.</div></div>

Meh.

He's young, has a positive xG and has shown that he can steal games. His SV% is terrible because the bulk of his starts were when the Devils were allowing like 20 shots per game. Only reason I think Fitz should move on from him this season is how injury-prone he is. People need to re-evaluate what league average goaltending is these days. Scoring has just gone up like crazy.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.

Thread: chychrun for Clarke

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>honestly don't know why the yotes would trade vejmelka right now. he's good but he's not keeping them from losing games, and he's young enough to potentially be a part of a competitive window. they don't have a good goalie prospect in the system really and these aren't good goalie drafts coming up. i guess you can trade or sign one later but does AZ really want to continue to tear it down to the studs or start actually building something?</div></div>

? Chychrun is younger and signed for the same term as Vejmelka. If Chychrun doesn't fit their timeline, then neither does he. They'll have to re-sign him before their window opens anyway.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.

Thread: Nucks fans whats a realistic return for Brock

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Yes, but the issue is the retention doesn't carry to the new contract. It would only pertain to the current.</div></div>

There's no new contract, his current deal is the 6.65x3 that started this season.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.

Thread: Whats Taking So Long

There's still like 3 weeks until the TDL. Unless Grier gets an offer that he's confident won't get any better, there's no reason to rush it.

He hasn't even let any teams talk to Meier as far as I've seen.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.

Thread: Active former Blue Jackets players

Columbus is really good at getting guys paid I guess. A lot of expensive contracts on here.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.

Thread: Building a Contender at the Deadline Without Timo Meier

Not sure how much of a "morale booster" bringing back Rico would be other than for the fans. Severson is the only player that'd probably remember him.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.

Thread: Realistic Timo Moves

I'm slightly offended that NJ may need to protect their first, but Winnipeg is "comfortable" with 7 less points.

That's all, carry on.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.

Thread: Severson On Trade Block

Friedman reported something similar. Talking about teams calling about guys stuck in the pipeline like Walsh, Okhotyuk and Muk as well as what the plan is with Graves and Severson.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if our defence looks a bit different after the deadline.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.

Thread: Ranking every NHL player ED3

Wait, where's Bratt?
Siegenthaler too, but missing him is more forgivable.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 7, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.

Thread: BlueDevilCanooks 3way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>noted</b></div><div>If there is one thing that I have learned from CapFriendly Users, it is that they prefer prospects over actually winning games but to each their own.</div></div>

There's no fit for Quinn with Hamilton on the roster and Luke in the pipeline. He can come as a UFA if he wants when Hamilton's contract is pretty much done.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 7, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.

Thread: Meier and Myers

Trading for a 3.5m 7th defencemen seems like a poor use of cap space.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 7, 2023 at 10:29 a.m.

Thread: Next season

Blackwood isn't getting a 2nd.

Meier/Bratt/Bass will get more

Boot McLeod out the door if he wants 2.5m

Hill isn't needed. Perry is whatever. Gritsyuk won't be in NA next season.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.

Thread: STL Blues TDL Hughes

There's no path to trading Luke Hughes, you'd legitimately have a better shot at trading for Owen Power, which obviously isn't happening either.

It would be a slap in Jack's face to trade Luke.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.

Thread: Timo and Karel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>My guess it's more that their threshold for an "A grade prospect" is really high making the B grade bin really large</div></div>

I think it's more just the article is a mess, all due respect to Peng.

But if Nemec is a "A-B tweener", that would imply that Nemec+1st wouldn't get it done... which is just absurd. If I posted an ACGM of that trade on here I'd get torn to shreds. I don't think him and his source(s) are sifting through all their notes on other team's prospects while they're answering some random users questions.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.

Thread: Timo and Karel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Yeah, it's not in the article itself, but look down in the article's comments section where the author Peng responds to direct questions.

Nimrod
19 hours ago
Hi Sheng, would you view Nemic as an A-prospect? I would want Hughes more than Nemic but given who Luke’s brother is on that team I don’t think they’re going to give him up. https://sanjosehockeynow.com/san-jose-sharks-timo-meier-trade-return/

Here's copy-pasted

Sheng Peng
Author
Reply to Nimrod
18 hours ago
I asked an NHL source about where Nemec falls, he’s an A-B tweener right now

david barnard
Reply to Sheng Peng
17 hours ago
what’s your source consider Shakir Mukhamadallin?

Sheng Peng
Author
Reply to david barnard
14 hours ago
He’s a B, along with Holtz. FWIW I actually asked three different NHL sources, about my Grade-A and B evaluations</div></div>

Fair enough, I see the comments now, thanks.

And to that I'd only question the logic of why Holtz and Othmann are considered to be on the same level. Maybe him and/or his source are just weirdly high on Othmann, but who knows.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2023 at 3:35 p.m.

Thread: Timo and Karel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>I dunno if Holtz actually is or not but according to the reporter's sources they considered Muk and Holtz B not A, which has context to the reported ask of 1st+ 1 A or 2 B. I am just saying that if people are citing this article for a source of what SJ wants, they need to include what the writer says their source values for those prospects and not interject their own ranking. This ACGM is posting the ask from that article which is why I'm responding with this info</div></div>

I don't see Muk or Holtz mentioned at all. Just that Luke Hughes is "a definite Grade-A." (no sh*t)

He mentions Brennan Othmann as a Grade-B, who is an under performing 20 year old in the OHL with 1st round pedigree. And if that's the case, you guys can go ahead and swap Holtz for Stillman.

But I don't think how the "Grade-A" or "Grade-B" tags are evaluated in the article are based on the source, I think they're just based on how Peng evaluates them. And they're done rather poorly, like as if they were done by somebody who just reports on the Sharks.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.

Thread: Timo and Karel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Unless they consider those guys C prospects. Based on the "sources" Peng talked to, they had a high bar for what was considered A. They even said Nemec was a "A/B tweener" which is pretty nuts but yeah. They considered someone like Luke Hughes as a A prospect. It could easily be all BS</div></div>

Yeah, you're not bringing much credibility to it by mentioning how that reporter brought up Luke Hughes.

My point is that I'd personally put Gritsyuk, Clarke, Muk and Casey in the same tier and Holtz is a better prospect than all of them. Just getting tired of all these ACGMs going the same way:
"Holtz isn't a Grade A prospect'
"Then switch him with another good prospect'
"...But we want Holtz"

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.

Thread: Timo and Karel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Not sure if SJ considers Holtz an A prospect or Walsh a B prospect, so if you swap Walsh for Muk or Casey, then it'd match the "two B prospects" reported ask.</div></div>

I mean, that's fine. But if Holtz is considered a B prospect by Grier, then Fitz might as well send an actual B prospect instead of Holtz. Like Gritsyuk or Clarke.

The only reason Holtz is so involved in these trades is because he's seen as a top prospect. If Grier doesn't view him as that, then we've got PLENTLY of other B-tier prospects that have a lot less potential than Holtz.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 30, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.

Thread: Devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DDossett</b></div><div>Keep tatar, i'll take Wood in the sabres deal tho. Definately not paying to trade bryson away for a rental, but i would go with bryson for wood straight up if he was interested in signing</div></div>

Very unlikely that Bryson would even make the lineup. I don't know what this ACGM is supposed to be.

Wood can probably be had for next to nothing if he doesn't pick it up after the all-star break. Tatar isn't getting traded for nothing though.

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