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Mike_Gartner

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Forum: Armchair-GMJul 9 at 11:56
Thread: Disgruntled stars
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>This season was tied for his highest average times on ice but yet this was his lowest points per game since 2016-17

Maybe because Pavelski is on the top line and Kreider might not even be in the top 6. Pavelski is very consistent in his points per game per year. Kreider isn't. Better probability Pavelski continues to produce, especially with more ice time</div></div>

again, you are splitting hairs to fit your narrative. it's cool, you like the Devils and hate the Rangers, probably super liberal too.
but for 5 minutes, imagine the Kreider doesn't play for the Rangers - you wouldn't be having this argument.
Kreider has been nothing but consistent and can be relied on for 50-55 points every season. Kreider was in the top 6 all season long with the exception of a few games when they were trying different line combos.
using this season as a gauge of anything is worthless, short camp, short season - players in and out of the line up - nothing about this season was normal.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 9 at 10:45
Thread: Disgruntled stars
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Ever since 2016-17, Kreider has decreased in points in almost every year and with his role getting smaller on the Rangers. Why do you think he's going to rebound.
And if you want to compare that to Pavelski, every since 2010, he's been a consistent 60+ point guy (not including shorten seasons).The only season when he wasn't a 60+ point guy was last year but he bounced back.</div></div>

factually incorrect - every season since 16/17 he has hoovered around an average of 55 points a season. There has not been a dip in production.
not to mention, this season was tied for his highest average time on ice of his career.
but keep going down his point total lines year by year without looking at the full picture.

ohhh, so Pavelski can bounce back but in the event Kreider has an off year he won't be able to?
what gives you such great insight into the future of what ifs?
Forum: Fauteuil - DGJul 9 at 10:27
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 9 at 9:54
Thread: Disgruntled stars
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>There's a much bigger risk with a guy who has 6 year left and plays a more physical game than a guy who has 1 year left and is still producing great. If Pavelski sucks this year, it doesn't matter, his contract expires. If Kreider sucks this year, the Rangers are stuck with his contract for the next 5 years. Pavelski is better than Kreider right now and has less term. They're not comparable</div></div>

stop playing the what if game.
there is no indication that he will "suck" and in the event he has an off year, doesn't mean he can't come back from it.
Pavelski and Kreider are the exact definition of comparables. They signed similar contracts, at similar ages and have similar on ice value. Sure Pavelski is the slightly better player, but we are splitting hairs.