Mike_Gartner

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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:49 pm

Thread: trading down and up

so if we break this down:

Lias = Mitts (Buffalo will argue that Mitts holds more value, this is subjective and not worth the debate)
Buf's 1st at 8 OV = NYR's 1st OV at 10-12 if Rangers lose play-in round (Rangers MAYBE add a 3rd to move up 2-4 spots)
Thompson is worthless but you put his value at a 1st and Buch.

If you want both our 1st for your first - you are taking cap back...

Buffalo Trade:
1st Rounder
Mitts

Rangers Trade:
1st Rounder
1st Rounder
Smith
Andersson

Even as I type this, it is a stretch...
Rangers say no, even to my halfbaked scenario.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 11:27 am

Thread: Tampa blockbuster

i feel like the term blockbuster is reserved for trades in which there are heavy players going both ways. in the above scenario Buffalo is send a pile a rubbish for 3 really nice pieces. not today bub.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 24 at 4:55

Thread: Project Status Follow Up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Buffalo easily says no. McCabe >> Staal honestly solely due to the contract. Mitts > Andersson, We will take our chances with Casey</div></div>

You can’t reasonably claim that Mitts is better than Lias. Staal gives the team some experienced leadership that that they desperately need.

However you missed the point of this trade completely. It gives Buffalo the ability to offer sheet someone. That’s the entire basis here. Rangers help buffalo OS someone and Buffalo helps absorb some cap for the Rangers.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 24 at 2:51

Thread: Project Status Follow Up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lsendel3</b></div><div>Only way Buf does this is if they want to offer sheet. Better prospect in mitts, arguably better or equal bad dman when considering contracts, and The picks are a wash due to year difference, favoring Buf slightly</div></div>

that was the sole intention of this trade, nothing more. it is a modified version of something i saw on another trade board proposed from the Buffalo side...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 24 at 2:06

Thread: Adams makes an impact

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>Yeah, don't think so...</div></div>

the Rangers know why Buffalo wants their 3rd rounder back. They aren't just going to give it back to you for nothing.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 24 at 8:42

Thread: Adams makes an impact

if you want your 3rd back from the Rangers you can have it, but it will cost you your 3rd in 2022 and McCabe with Staal or Smith coming back to you.
also, it would be a waste because you could offer Cirelli Kevin Hayes money and he still wouldn't sign in Buffalo.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 6:47

Thread: Beefalo Steaks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>thats disappointing then. 2nd line center with Tampas top 6 should put up a hell of a lot more than 40 some points.</div></div>

Go watch a game. You sound stupid right now. The guy is one of the best 2 way centers in the NHL.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 6:45

Thread: Beefalo Steaks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>He is a first line center on no team, and its yet to be determined if he can even hold a 2nd line.

Go back at look at stats from the sabres after the lockout, that was a team that had 1st/2nd centers on the 3rd line. They were destroying it on the 3rd, not putting up 40 points.</div></div>

Cirelli played 2C almost all season guy. What are you talking about?!

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 5:43

Thread: Beefalo Steaks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>Holy **** is that way too much for Cirelli. No way do you move the 7th overall pick for a guy who has only been a 3rd line center.</div></div>

Does anyone in Buffalo know what’s going on in the NHL outside of that crap city?! Cirelli instantly becomes your 2C and your second best forward. The guy is as solid as solid comes.

Not to mention it isn’t an overpayment - this is a classic quantity over quality trade. The only thing of value here is the pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 3:11

Thread: Howden from NYR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I'm surprised to see in what low regard you hold your team.
By the time Lundkvist reaches the NHL, you'll be old enough to know better.
Remember that Lias Andersson was drafted seventh overall.</div></div>

it has nothing to do with holding the Rangers in low regard and more about being realistic. they have exceed expectations this year and that is a great sign of things to come.
if you think this Rangers team is in compete now mode, you haven't paid attention at all.
30% of their cap is currently tied up by ineffective veterans at the end of their career and buyouts. approximately 13 players on the roster are still on RFA deals.
why would a team still in rebuild send their top defensive prospect for a middle of the road dman?

if you want Nils, it starts with one of your Top 2 prospects.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 2:16

Thread: Howden from NYR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You don't need LD right now?!? You're in the playoffs this year and therefore want and expect to contend next year. Yes, I can see what the left side of your defense for 2020-2021 looks like: Staal, Ryan Lindgren (one full season in the NHL), Libor Hajek (one goal and five assists in 33 NHL games), and utter rookies. Yes, you need a better player at #2LD right now.</div></div>

the Rangers are not a playoff team this year - they are only competing by circumstance.
the only expectation for this team if there is a full season next year is to be competitive and push to be a bubble team.
they have no reason to trade one of their top prospects for a fringe 2nd pairing dman.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 1:48

Thread: Howden from NYR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div></div></div>

the Rangers absolutely do not need LD right now. they are still in rebuild, albeit at the end of it. the rebuild shouldn't be considered over until Hank, Staal, Smith and Shatty's buyout are off the books.
they certainly do not need LD at the expense of one of the best D prospects outside of North America.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 1:47

Thread: Howden from NYR

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 1:42

Thread: Howden from NYR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I'm from the planet where Lundkvist isn't going to play in the NHL next season, or the season after that, either. Meanwhile, Larsson already has 109 games under his belt and you guys need a LD now.

Larsson and Lundkvist are rated equally by Dobber Prospects and Larsson is three if not four years ahead of him.</div></div>

ohhhh, so you can see the Rangers roster for the 21-22 season? that's amazing!

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 1:38

Thread: Save Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Nah they mainly need better defensive depth (specifically in their forwards) and a better goalie partner for Ullmark to stopgap UPL</div></div>

you really are over simplifying things here. Assuming Skinner and Reinhart are on the 1st line with Eichel, Buffalo needs an entire 2nd line, fillers in their bottom 6 and competent goaltending. that doesn't come easy when your prospect pool is extremely thin and the team has been garbage for over a decade, making free agency difficult unless you overpay...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 23 at 1:25

Thread: Howden from NYR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Steel, Lundestrom (both of whom you have in the wrong place) and even Groulx are better prospects than Howden. No thanks.

Larsson for Nils Lundqvist and a pick -- now there's an idea.</div></div>

did you really just suggest Lundkqvist AND a pick for Larsson? what planet are you on?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 22 at 2:44

Thread: How the Rangers can COMPETE NOW

you added Eichel but somehow made this team worse...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 17 at 2:00

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>No thx

Deangelo - a player for a position in which we are crowded, although I like Deangelo, but we need a more defensive defender
Chytil = Mittelstadt for me
Robertson - the prospect of LD chosen in the second round, we also have enough of these</div></div>

Did you just compare Chytil to Mitts? Come on guy...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 16 at 1:21

Thread: save us kevyn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres923</b></div><div>I will agree that Ristolainen might not have the best value, but What has Roslovic done for Winnipeg? 67 points in 180 games isn’t great. Ristolainen provides more offense than him.</div></div>

Roslovic is a better dman than Risto...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 3:08

Thread: My Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>His 2nd year, he was playing on Tavares' wing. So far, we know he's REALLY good at producing with star players.</div></div>

source for that info? i find it hard to believe he was playing on JT's wing but only playing between 12-14 minutes a night...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 2:39

Thread: My Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>He's not. He's been in the league how long and this year he finally booms when you put Panarin on his wing? Anyone who can't connect the dots shouldn't be trying to justify him as a 60 point player</div></div>

Strome put up 50 points his 2nd year in the league playing 12 minutes a night. After that year he was bounced around and never had stability.
The past 2 seasons with NY he has line consistency and has performed. I'm not denying that he is gaining points by playing with Panarin but the argument could be made that if he has decent wings on his line, he will perform. He isn't going to drive a line and needs to focus on the defensive side of the puck, but he is a decently solid 2C.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 2:30

Thread: My Offseason

this narrative is tired. "strome is not a 60 point player"...just stop. no one knows if he is or not.
however, you just gave a "40 point" player a $35M contract - stop talking out both sides of your mouth...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 8:04

Thread: Sabres players ranked

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chloewoj</b></div><div>frolik above TT is a crime</div></div>

if that's what you've gathered from this exercise, the guys on Chiclets are right - Jacky boy is going to be asking out really soon...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 5 at 4:07

Thread: Cirelli and Strome

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>7th overall plus is a lot</div></div>

the"plus" is where I am losing you. Thompson is worthless and Pilut is meh. It's basically a 1st and a 2nd for one of the best 2 way centers in the league, that package does not come close.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 5 at 3:19

Thread: Cirelli and Strome

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>A lot for cirelli, but that's what it will take.

Not at all interested in giving up a 1st for a guy coming off a career year and a backup goalie. And you tossed in mittelstadt</div></div>

i'm confused...outside of this years 1st, what is "a lot"?
i'm assuming you mean a lot in terms of quantity because there isn't much quality there...

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