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Mike_Gartner

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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 9:01 a.m.
Thread: Stuff
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>I don't think you can keep saying "this trade doesn't get it done" without saying -why- it doesn't get it done. There's only a handful of times a guy like this has been traded in NHL history, and we all know these trades pretty well and can easily use them as reference points when talking about idea for trading for current guys.

Do you know what package this is comparable to? The Erik Karlsson trade - when the Senators traded a guy with a pair of Norris Trophies and a year left on his deal to the Sharks and got back a 40-point middle-6 forward(Chris Tierney), a 25 year old third pair D,(Dylan DeMelo), a recent 1st round pick (Josh Norris), and a project player (Rudolfs Balcers) in addition to a 1st and a pair of 2nds. This deal has Pettersson's RFA rights (no contract even!) being moved for a 60 point middle-6 forward (Mittelstadt), a 24 year old top-4 D averaging 20+ minutes per night (Samuelsson), a recent 1st round pick (Kulich), a project (Kisakov), and a 1st and a 2nd (that could turn into a 1st. Each of the roster players here profiles as a stronger player than what Ottawa got back in the Karlsson deal, and the rest of the assets line up (save for the extra 2nd, and I think trading off an extra 2nd for the potential to upgrade the other to a 1st is worth it.)</div></div>

i figured the reasoning was good enough - no Cozens, no Thompson - no trade.
a top team in the league doesn't trade one of their best players without getting something in return.
OTT situation was very different and shouldn't be used as a comparable here:
-Melnyk was a cheapskate, didn't want to pay high dollar/long term
-Duchene situation soured EK in OTT
-He was going to leave no matter what

Pettersson doesn't want to leave, they just couldn't agree on contract, which looks like it ironed itself out.
but since you chimed in, you honestly think Buffalo could trade for EP without one of Cozens or Tage?
if someone offered you Mitts and Sameulsson with some other "stuff" for Barzal, would you do that?
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 21, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
Thread: OOOOOF