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Nights_King93

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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 8, 2020 at 11:45 p.m.
Thread: Please get a 3C that is skilled and gritty enough for the job
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Poulin shouldn't play with Malkin.
Malkin can be defensively lazy. That's now what you put next to a rookie.

Crosby's line would be the only top 6 role that would work for him.
I like the idea of putting him with McCann and getting a decent center. McCann is defensively reliable, fast and has a lot of offensive pop.
They just need a decent center to put between them.</div></div>

I was thinking along similar lines for the third line role. Playing with McCann will force the coaches to insist Poulin checks and uses his body to his advantage.

I do think that 3C would need to be at least an average passer that likes to forecheck as well. The one thing that really bothers me about McCann's game is he seems to avoid contact when things get rough. Need a nice mixture of grit with him and hopefully, middle six skill in Poulin to help.

I just don't want to overpay on either position they'd be fishing for unless they find a hockey trade where salary is going out. I don't see that as a possibility anymore.

Whoever they bring it at 3C and 3RD need to want to be here and not gouge on price.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 7, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 10, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
Thread: All Possession Fourth Line
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div>Thanks for the feedback. Over the past 2 seasons, McCann has put up similar regular season production compared to Rust before he signed his 3.5 million dollar deal and he’s also become a very good defensive Forward, so I think he’s worth a new deal in the 3 million dollar range. I think he struggled near the end of the season because he was forced to play center when he’s more comfortable as a winger, and he didn’t have any chemistry with his linemates either.

Yeah, I can see Hornqvist being on the team next season. IMO he should’ve played on the top line this playoffs instead of Sheary.</div></div>

Rust played the game with a chip on his shoulder and dove in front of pucks more than anyone on the cup runs. I've never seen McCann get tough when it counts. That bothers me. Also why I wouldn't pay the guy 3 mill+.

But we are all. Entitled to our opinions and why we believe in/ don't believe in certain guys.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 10, 2020 at 12:38 p.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Well I guess you taught me! lol

Thanks for filling me in on some history :)

Regarding Murray, the issue I see is that he's going to want a big money contract just 1 year from UFA with arbitration rights. He knows that he's had a down season so wants to cash in now while he can still lean on his 2 cups. We have Annunen on the way in ~2 years so it might not be prudent to make any long-term big-money moves. A $6m goaltender signed throughout our cup window simply HAS to be a hit, because if he fails and plays at a backup level well then that's a huge dent in our cup chances.

Now, if the price to acquire Murray is reasonably cheap (i.e. not Burakovsky), and he is willing to sign a reasonable contract (&lt;$5.5m x &lt;5 years), then I'd think about it. But I doubt he takes that deal and I doubt JR wants what we would be offering for Murray.</div></div>

It might take less than that. This is just what my ask would be. Haha. I wouldn't let him go for nothing or to get rid of him. He still has the capacity to win 3-1 and 4-3 playoff games. He needs a better effort in front of him, though. And he can only steal 1 game per series in all likelihood. For supremely talented teams, like a team with Mack, Mak, Rant, Land, etc. All of your fun young talent ans Landeskog as the de facto old gun just bc the rest of the squad is so young, MM could be a great guy in your system.

If the Avs are interested, I'm sure guys like Cole are pushing for him.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.
Thread: All Possession Fourth Line
Don't think you can bring Simon and Sheary back for those amounts and also pay McCann 3.5mill.

McCann hasn't proven he should make more than 2-2.5 million for me. I don't hate Sheary and think he should be a bottom six player that only comes up when the injury bug hits hard... But Sully will play him above Kapanen, Rust, and Hornqvist if he is on the team.

I think Hornqvist is on the team a hundred percent. He is a big locker room guy. Think of Kunitz in 2016 and 17. We knew he lost a step but he checked and found himself in the right spot repeatedly. Hornqvist is that guy now.

I think despite what he has had, JR actually wants to move Johnson. He is talking him up to get someone to bite. Might not happen, but not impossible. Look at Gudbranson.

Overall, not a bad look for the team. I'd prefer guys that check more than Sheary, Simon, and Mccann on the bottom six.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>What I meant is that Pens won cups without having an elite D. You had Letang but other than him I don't think you can argue that you had a truly great D group. Being great on the forecheck and playing team defense doesn't necessarliy mean that your D group is great.</div></div>

Your post had nothing to do with elite D-men. You referenced two generational center and implied that the Pens outscored people, not that MM and the team defense made the difference most nights.

The Pens had Dumoulin, Ian Cole, who you know very well now, Lovejoy, Daley, Hainsey. Guys who did a really good job on the backend. The Pens better defensive year actually came with Letang being injured. So no "stars" on the team D. Just great team D and a goalie that made you beat him on either a perfect shot or a rebound. He still does that when the games become large. Look at the Isles and Habs series the past two years. He isn't the reason the Pens lost. The Pens have the opposite problem of the Avs right now. The Avs are a little too hungry and overaggressive sometimes. The Pens skaters haven't had the same edge the last couple of years. You don't win a lot of playoff games scoring 0,1, or 2. The Pens hvae struggled hitting that magical 3 mark. The Avs have not. MM would be perfect for a team that just needs to be a little tighter on the back end. The Pens seem unwilling to do that for him but the Avs could be great for it.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nights_King93</b></div><div>Hahahaha. This is laughable. Go watch the games outside of your team buddy. The Pens won cups because of defense and forecheck.

Matt Murray pitched back to back shutouts to put the Preds away for a title. 120 minutes of zero goals to end the freaking season on top. No.. Defense never won anything for the Pens.

I like the Avs, I love Mackinnon.. But you guys just played a joke of a defensive series and you really think you can say the Pens have never won with D?

Get out of town. Glad to know you don't watch other teams win cups, because you obviously didn't watch the Pens cup runs.

I'm glad you aren't Joe and management, because they see what the team needs. Colorado deserves people who actually know the game and other teams.</div></div>

They also eliminated the Sens 3-2 in double OT that year. They eliminated the Caps and held them to one goal I believe.

They won games 4 and 6 of the San Jose series 3-1. Wins 3 and 4 for the Pens in that cup final. But yeah. No defense at all 😂😂😂
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Rust is older, only has 2 years to UFA, and has only one season of production next to Malkin no less. It's no surprise you won't get huge offers for him.

How many goalies have played on a team with 2 generational C's? Pens never won the cup because of great defense.</div></div>

Hahahaha. This is laughable. Go watch the games outside of your team buddy. The Pens won cups because of defense and forecheck.

Matt Murray pitched back to back shutouts to put the Preds away for a title. 120 minutes of zero goals to end the freaking season on top. No.. Defense never won anything for the Pens.

I like the Avs, I love Mackinnon.. But you guys just played a joke of a defensive series and you really think you can say the Pens have never won with D?

Get out of town. Glad to know you don't watch other teams win cups, because you obviously didn't watch the Pens cup runs.

I'm glad you aren't Joe and management, because they see what the team needs. Colorado deserves people who actually know the game and other teams.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 10:11 a.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>What does Rust have to do with this trade anyways? He's not part of the trade so why are we discussing him?

Your offer is Murray + McCann + 2nd, which just doesn't move the needle. McCann is your health scratch in the playoffs, and Murray will want a huge contract and has arbitration rights. We're not giving up Burakovsky for that.</div></div>

I'm just saying.. People give far less for Rust, including some Avs fans the past year, and he is a comparable player.

That was all my point was. There are obviously GMs out there that feel the same way I do about MM. He still performs well, if not miraculous, when the games matter. The issue is getting him to be consistent and a great coach could get that out of MM.

How many goalies win 3 cups? It is a very short list. Personally, I'd trade Jarry in a heartbeat and get a specialist to come work with MM. This is just the type of deal I'd be able to stomach as a Pens fan.

I hope I'm wrong and the Pens keep him. But with the goalie coach being retained, it is almost a lock that Jarry is the guy staying.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Can you name those journalists? I only recall this rumour starting from PIThockeyNow which is Adrian Dater's friend and colleage. So basically it's Adrian Dater making up unfounded rumours... again.

Burakovsky just had a season pacing 64points, and scored 17 goals in 15 playoff games. In his career he also hsa 9 goals in 9 elimination games, including 4 goals in 6 game 7's. If he can keep that up going forward it will be great value at 5-5.5.

Rust is older and only has 1 season playing on Malkins line with good scoring, and crucially only has 2 year term.</div></div>

Rust is like 2 years older, played roughly the same amount of games this year and produced more, has two years of term, unlike Burakovsky who has none, I know they do have rights, and Rust is known as a big game player. I don't know the total for Rust, but I do remmeber against Tampa he scored 3 goals in game 6 and 7 alone.

They are comparable. If anything, Rust might be the more complete player because be consistently has more points and he plays PK and blocks shots.

I gave a pretty good package compared to what people generally give Rust in value.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 8, 2020 at 11:55 p.m.
Thread: Biggest Change Roster I will make So likely not realistic here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Avs don’t want Murray and they aren’t trading burakovsky,
It’s not a hard concept to figure out.

And no I never make those claims just when the same awful trade is being made dozens of times a day it will get commented on for being awful

You have one of the top drafted prospects in the nhl from a rebuilding team coming back for Letang, definitional of fantasy land stuff with this roster</div></div>

I explained my rationale for that. The only way you trade Letang is if you are getting a prospect with an extremely high ceiling coming back or you make a deal for two cost-effective players, like a 3C and a 2nd pairing RD. I see the prospect scenario more likely. Letang was linked to the Kings last year bc ownership is supposedly very impatient with the process of being terrible after being elite for a few years.