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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:22 a.m.
Thread: Poll
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ReelBigFan</b></div><div>An, sorry, forgot my coffee this morning, I calculated the numbers with and without AV and used the medium rate… you’re right. But his numbers w/o AV have been great lol

Still a 50 point C who is versatile in this league currently is getting about this imo.. Coyle has a lower production but is a pretty good 2-way player, I think that’s why he got 6… in 2-3 years I see that being fair.

I still remember when Weber signed his deal and people thought 6M for a number 1 D was insane lol</div></div>

Coyle got just over $5 million. He's played at a 40pt rate the last 3 years and as you said is a pretty good 2-way player. He's considered a cap dump by many on CF. So Hayes will give you about 10 more points (going on p/gp) and cost almost $2 million more.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:39 a.m.
Thread: Poll
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ReelBigFan</b></div><div>A power forward would be a Lucic type and a 2-way would be a Bergeron type… not to the same extent of quality, but playing style.

And why would you say negative value? 7.1 For a 2C is pretty fair now. Especially for a 2-way guy putting up around .800 PPG imo</div></div>

Well then by the definition you've put, no Hayes wouldn't be a "power forward"

I'm not sure where you get Hayes being a 0.80 P/GP player. This past season he played at a 0.64 P/GP player. Over his last 3 years he's played at 0.59 P/GP and over the last 5 years he's played at a 0.63 P/GP rate. So he's around a 50pt center if he can play a full 82 games season. That's on the low end production for a 2C in my opinion and certainly not worth $7.1 million a year or roughly 9% of a team cap space.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:21 a.m.
Thread: Getting There
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KPM12</b></div><div>Grz and mcavoy was one of the best pairings in the NHL over the last 2 seasons. Boston should not be quick to trade him. Lindholm was very good with Charlie as well but I think he'd be a great player to compliment Carlo (I wish boston tried it). You can have Reilly and Clifton play pair 3. Forbort should be the obv out but too many boston fans like him bc of his frame and he blocks some shots (which isn’t always a good thing contrary to the general public opinion). The other argument i see a lot on forbort is that he is a great pk defenseman, yes that is true but he actually ranked fourth in pk war added on boston despite being in the top 10 percent of the league (mcavoy, carlo and clifton ranked higher). With all the defenseman this high I think it could be system thing in boston. Forbort isn’t a bad player but he should be the one they try to move but fans can look past his physical frame.</div></div>

Carlo, McAvoy &amp; Clifton are all RHD. Forbort is a LHD. Clifton also didn't have near the PK TOI that the other 3 did and typically would draw the 2nd PP unit and/or the end of the PP's. I honestly put little stock in a "WAR" metric and certainly don't use it as an end all be all. If Boston traded Forbort they're top LD PK guy probably becomes Lindholm or (if not traded) Mike Reilly. I'm find with Lindholm on the PK, but I don't need him logging 3+ minutes a night on the PK, 18+ minutes at ES and then 2+ minutes on the PP. Can Lindholm play 23+ a night? sure, but do it for 82 games and its going to wear guys down and they'll be cooked by the playoffs.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:19 p.m.
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