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Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 11:19 pm

Thread: depression

My expectations before the season and continued expectations are that the Wings should be better than last year but not by a huge margin. Not close to a playoff contender.

With their best scorer Vrana out, DDK not being great, two very talented but inexperienced rookies, a goaltender with 31 NHL games played, the list goes on; I can't expect them to be a .500+ team.

You're right, it doesn't feel good playing an amazing game against the b2b champs for the home opener then getting cooked by the Canadians who have been terrible this year.

If the Wings draft high next year in what some say is a talent stacked draft pool they'll be in the playoffs in the next year or two. I hope

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 5 at 3:44

Thread: raymond but NOT on the 1st line

I think the reason a lot of people see Raymond on the 1st line is because of his chemistry with Larkin. Raymond has a high hockey IQ and talent to complement.

I've said the same things before camps & preseason that Raymond might need time to adjust to the smaller ice surface but he has adjusted well so far.

To me Ray looks elite on the first line offensively so far but I wonder if he can be elite defensively/overall on the 1st line against TOP teams/players in the league.

It's a tough decision. On one hand the Wings would be more fun to watch with him on the team; on the other hand it MIGHT be better for him to spend some time in Grand Rapids.

Forum: Mock-DraftOct 3 at 10:22

Thread: My Mock before the draft

It's always interesting to see who out of the top picks turn into all-stars and who doesn't but especially for this draft class because covid interfered with games played and scouting.

As a Detroit fan we'll see if Wallstedt outperforms Cossa in the future but Yzerman & his scout's decisions haven't disappointed me at all since he's been GM

Forum: Mock-DraftOct 3 at 2:17

Thread: How I Would Have Drafted It

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>If only Seattle and every other team before #7 can see how good Eklund has been in camp. This guy is going to be a top flight star in the league very soon and is likely making the sharks on the Hertl line.</div></div>

When Eklund "fell" to the Red Wings I thought it was a dream come true then they picked Edvinsson instead lol.
I'm happy with Edvinsson. He has been looking great in the SHL so far but I wonder if they made the right decision until both players reach their prime.
That said I am used to criticizing Ken Holland's draft picks so I started second guessing Yzerman's.
In hindsight Yzerman's picks are always mind blowing... in a good way and I stopped the second guessing.

I wish the best for Eklund; I'm excited to see how his talent grows at the NHL level.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 2 at 10:32

Thread: Hope on the horizon Well see

I like most of this squad on paper except Tyutyayev on the third line. Soderblom is looking very good in the SHL + the Wings have other prospects.

I don't think Stephens earns more than Ras (prove me wrong please).

I like that you have Edvinsson and Seider on different lines for diversity on defense but those two paired together would fun to watch.

This team's cap hit is 46m in 2023 but the league floor is ~62m in 2021.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 26 at 12:35

Thread: The roster if Tyler Bertuzzi gets COVID and Jakub Vrana has a crummy shoulder

In this injury case my moves would be Veleno 3C, Rass playing 3rd line wing or 4C , Raymond in GR getting more minutes, Mitchell 4C

Thanks Bert

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 24 at 9:26

Thread: Eichel to Detroit

That's a lot of Red Wing futures for just one guy right now who isn't even "right now" because of his neck. Eichel seems like a headache for management. Talented player tho don't get me wrong.

Forum: Mock-DraftSep 11 at 10:11

Thread: cringe

Seider dropping out of the top 10 is kind of cringe bro. Idk if you are referencing what I think you are referencing but if you are... AWOOOOO :tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 3:30

Thread: opening roster bottom six gonna have alot of competition

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lukefelsner</b></div><div>Very fair. It is good to play them high. Another foreseeable issue however is that the only guy in the top 6 next year who is expiring is Fabbri. Well Zadina is an RFA but he isn't going anywhere. You could move Bert down to line 3 in truth at that point, and have Berg and Raymond line 2 with Suter, but also Fabbri could very well stick around. And what with rass and Veleno at that point? Very sticky situation</div></div>

Something I thought about after posting my other comment is that they might need some time to adjust to the smaller ice surface in the US. Big emphasis on might, some players can adjust quickly.

Yeah a bit sticky but a good problem to have; someone might get shipped for an established Left D-man.

Isn't it also crazy how 3 seasons is the longest the Wings have anyone signed for and that's only for 3 players? Yzerman kept his options open.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 6 at 2:23

Thread: opening roster bottom six gonna have alot of competition

That's probably the mottom six they go with and Smith slots in first for injuries or to give a guy a game off if needed.

One reason I think Berg & Raymond start in Grand Rapids is because they'll play top line minutes and get a lot of experience. Also there's no need to rush them since the Red Wings probably aren't pushing for a playoff spot this year. If they prove me wrong I won't be mad.

Edit: "mottom six" was lightly poking fun at the OP for a misspell in the title until he corrected it.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 4 at 10:11

Thread: What they should have done

The Nedeljkovic decision was strange but the Red Wings appreciate it for now

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 3 at 12:01

Thread: Least fav from each team

Why do you not like Draisaitl, Zegras, Kessel, Lafreniere, Byfield, TVR, especially COSSA when he hasn't played in the NHL yet + more players.

I agree with Drouin, Domi, Ritchie, Okposo, Deangelo, Kadri, Maroon, Thornton, Subban + more... & some goalies

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 26 at 4:19

Thread: My 2023 Stanley Cup favourites

I think that's a good deal for the Red Wings for the Jets to get Larkin as a rental at the TDL.

I wouldn't mind him being rented for that especially because I'd like seeing him contending with a playoff team.
Then I could see him signing with the Wings again the next year since he'd be a UFA although that'd be bad for the Jets.

I can't see the Red Wings trading their captain 1C because it's a bad look to trade your captain but if the price is right and they could sign him the next year it would be a smart move.

This comment is assuming the Red Wings are one of the worst teams in the league again that year.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 20 at 2:50

Thread: The Kids Surprise Stevie at Camp

If Raymond played the full season in the SHL last year and didn't have a big injury I'd have higher hopes of him making the team this year.

I'd say Veleno and Berggren have a good chance to make the team. Hopefully they do well in training camp & the pre-season.

It might be better for some young guns to play in the AHL than be healthy scratched but injuries happen so we'll see.

I wonder how this year will play out for DDK. I hope he's good to go but if he's not do we have to get another LD or who would come up as a reserve? Is McIsaac ready?

Forum: Mock-DraftAug 19 at 9:35

Thread: 2014

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TZ11</b></div><div>Vrana > Dvorak, Schmaltz, Olofsson, Arvidsson, McCann, Bennett, Sanheim, Tuch, Fiala</div></div>

I watch the Red Wings the most, Leafs come in second and Capitals in third. I am more familiar with Vrana than the other players so I'm biased.

That said, I mostly agree. Vrana is so talented at the game that he makes scoring look easy playing on one of the worst teams in the nhl.
In my mind he's the most elite player on the Red Wings. Larkin is up there at center and if Seider plays well in the show he can be up there too.

In certain situations I can see other players being better or worse but I think the Red Wings got an extremely good deal on Vrana for 5.25M X 3 years.
Yzerman knows best but I'd like the term to be just a bit longer even if the price was higher; that's how much I believe in Vrana.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 11 at 10:44

Thread: lol stacked

If all of the prospects end up being solid nhl players this is a good looking team on paper.

The cap will probably go up a bit by 2023 but even without it this team has a lot of room in cap space 26.5m.

The team needs to spend ~7.6m to get to the cap floor and if they barely squeak by it that's 18.9m left for the next year.
I'm interested in this because in 2024-25 Raymond, Seider, Berggren & Ras will all hopefully be playing well enough for a raise.
18.9 divided by 3 is ~6.3 each and that doesn't account for Ras.
We don't know if each player will mature this quickly or how great they will be but if those 3 or 4 play very well that's the most the Wings could spend.

I know Yzerman is intelligently stingy on salaries but if Ray, Seider, and Berg end up being big contributors they will get paid.

Edit: This cap also assumes Larkin takes a 100k paycut per year for term.
Also I hope Nedeljkovic ends up being a solid rock in net and might fetch more than 4m a year but that scrambles cap space even more.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 9 at 4:53

Thread: 2022 Gold Medal Winners

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>No shot is USA beating Canada btw</div></div>

That's what they said in 1980 except about the US beating Russian team.

I know it's not 1980 anymore & don't have the confidence you do about the US winning gold but regardless it will be fun to watch!

It's great NHL players are allowed at the Olympics again.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 9 at 4:40

Thread: Why knowing what other teams want is important for making a post

I liked the Yzerman part haha.

"Easy as 1-2-3" lol.... If people didn't overvalue they players on their favorite teams, myself included.

That team looks interesting. A lot of low cap hit players. In fact there are so many that this team doesn't even hit the cap floor.

Nice post

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 8 at 3:32

Thread: The Leafs But Almost Every Mistake is Undone

I would rather have Johnny Tavares on a team for 11 mill cap hit over Marner for the same price.

I like Johnny T over Seguin at 2c.

You're over the cap by a lot.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 7 at 9:00

Thread: If Red Wings want Nylander

Red Wings don't want or need Nylander right now. Especially if it costs their current 1st line Center, who is the CAPTAIN, AND A HIGH FIRST ROUND PICK, AND!!! a high second round pick???

I wouldn't even want them to do Larkin for Nylander 1 for 1 without the picks.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 5 at 12:23

Thread: Be nice detroit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>How’s detroit doing with the rebuild, it wasn’t that long ago since the fanbase would basically expect a cup run every other year. Damn was there some good wings teams over the years from about 94 til a few seasons ago.</div></div>

Yeah I've been blessed to grow up watching some amazing players on the Red Wings; they're the reason my parents got me into hockey a long time ago.

It has been tough to watch since they stopped earning a playoff spot but Yzerman is doing great work on improving the team.

I'm hoping they can start thinking about making the playoffs in 22-23... almost for sure by 23-24 if prospects work out. Thanks for asking

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 11:42

Thread: Be nice detroit

It's a decent trade for the Wings. I don't think Wings don't really need a LD for this season unless Dekeyser or someone else gets hurt early in the season. I could see them doing this later in the season or in 22-23 if a left defenseman is needed and the rebuild is "over".

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 11:17

Thread: Does Dvorak make sense for the Wings

Berggren hasn't proved himself in the nhl yet but he just came out of a very impressive shl season. Behind Raymond and Veleno he's one of the most promising Red Wing forward prospects.

Dvorak is a good player on a decent contract but the Wings don't NEED to make this move for 21-22 so I don't think they do it or they do it for other pieces.

Forum: Mock-DraftAug 2 at 12:14

Thread: 2019

Looks good

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 1 at 3:23

Thread: Lets just become the bruins instead

I wasn't very impressed with the most recent Marner performance in the playoffs but he's still very young with time to grow as a player. Age fits Detroit timeline.
Even though he hits ~11m against the cap I think the Red Wings should agree to this trade.

Player for player this is an underpay from Detroit but only because they are taking ~4m off the cap for the Leafs cap I think it is pretty even.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>How is this becoming the bruins?</div></div>

He's saying "become the Bruin's" by adding chippy/gritty guys like Matt Tkachuk, Bertuzzi, Max Domi, etc.

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