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OilednGreasy
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 17, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
Thread:
Cap space is a weapon
I doubt PIT and EDM make those deals
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 17, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread:
EOAC 23-24
This is one of those ideas that I've dabbled with in the past that I wonder if someone will try this offseason. Contending teams don't really need their retention slots and, if they have an abundance of depth players, a team like EDM could confer a surprising benefit from that extra ~380k in cap flexibility. I appreciate the creativity!
FWIW I think you can shave an extra 100k each off the Lavoie and Kostin contracts and give that to McLeod.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 17, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
Thread:
Workshopping a Pesce trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>greytcanes</b></div><div>I think you’ll be outbid. This won’t be enough.</div></div>
Possible that they'll be outbid but I have a hard time imagining him garnering that much more. Could be wrong, though. Appreciate the feedback!
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 17, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
Thread:
Workshopping a Pesce trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>The Canes would retain half on Pesce if you want. Yamo doesn’t do anything for the Canes, he just becomes another undersized forward for the Canes, we have plenty. Plus he can’t stay healthy.
Broberg is ok, but he’s not even a top 2 defenseman prospect for the Canes and is aging out at almost 22 already.</div></div>
Okay, the retention is the preferred route, anyway, as Yamo can be bought out with minimal cost.
I disagree that Broberg is 'aging out' at age 22; Nikishin will also be 22 by season's start. I know circumstances are different but my point is that people are WAY too quick to dismiss a guy who just played his 21-year old season as an effective NHL regular. I think the combination of those two makes for a great and cost-effective development/ succession strategy behind Slavin. However, you're free to have your opinion.
That aside, assuming the package starts with Broberg and the 1st, what more would it take?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.
Thread:
Average Delusional Oilers Fan pt 15
What money you gonna extend him with? He is gonna get a raise, and if you can't extend him this is pretty bad for the oilers imo.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>Oilers aren't adding anything to move Yamamoto. If no teams want him he can be waived to cost $1,950,000, and if teams still don't want him after he could then be sent down at any point of the season without going through waivers the Oilers can buy him out for $433,334 next season and $533,334 in 24/25. Yamamoto is not near as bad as people are trying to make him out to be too. Oilers fans and media love to chase players out of town, see: Jordan Eberle.
Oilers need to be better defensively. Edmonton's best offence in the league doesn't really need Konecny, but I could see it as Philly wants to do him a solid while he's in his prime and they're rebuilding with the understanding that they want him back when he's a UFA. This is if TK thinks he's got a chance to win in EDM. The Oilers will not be able to sign him, Draisaitl's contract is up at the same time.
It's been reported that the Flyers head european scout from Sweden may like Broberg, but...
I believe the best Philly could hope for from the Oilers after retaining 1/2 of TK's contract is receiving Broberg or Bourgault, Yamamoto, 1st and a 2nd in return. Holloway is needed now and I think unavailable.</div></div>
I agree. Defense is and was the problem. Yamo will find a team that wants him. If not what you described is preferable compared to sending a 2nd with him. I am not sure why you'd pay that much for TK if you don't really need a goal scorer and can have BUF's Olofsson for much less. I wouldn't pay a premium for a righty winger. I'd rather take on the Olofsson contract with a tanking team retaining 25% of his salary and paying a 2nd and a 3rd in total.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread:
oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>When did those 3 play together?</div></div>
NST has them at 8 minutes and change. Looks like it was from one game but <a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2022-10-07&td=2023-04-14&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8480802&p2=8475169&p3=8477998&p4=0&p5=0" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">they ran house</a>. McLeod pairs really well with both Kane and Foegele individually so the logic follows that the trio should be gas.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 10:32 p.m.
Thread:
Bedard Conservative Cap Use
Yeah no we aren't using a 2nd to dump foegele. Great underlying numbers, awesome forechecker and one of the best motors in the league. He's a great piece and I can't see him being given up for anything less than a 4th. You can have Yams or Ceci for free though but Edmonton doesn't have any contracts this offseason that need a pick to be dumped
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
Thread:
Bedard Conservative Cap Use
I don't think either EDM nor PHI are doing those. EDM can fund a better home for Foegele...or keep him. He's certainly better than Yamamoto.
PHI is rebuilding/retooling. They'll take on more cap dumps. Not pay to shed them.
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NHL Signings
Jun. 13, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Derek Ryan (2 Years / $900,000 AAV)
great signing, super effective bottom 6 forward who plays a good two way game
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
Thread:
everyone on this site pays either far too much or far too little
Psst...... I'll let you in on a secret. We all don't know what we're talking about. We just speculate value, GM's are the only ones who "know" the real price of things because values are dictated by them accepting or not accepting their trade offers.
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Fauteuil - DG
Jun. 13, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
Thread:
Sellout but not total rebuild
Any players with a NTC most likely isn’t gonna waive to come to WPG,
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
Thread:
my hart proposal
That's a lot for a goalie, whens the last time a goalie sold for that much?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
Thread:
Roll With What They Got
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>Right. That's what I'm getting at here. Could happen</div></div>
Done Deal! Get the papers signed!!!
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 8:24 a.m.
Thread:
Voices say
Pretty sure every team not located in Philly declines.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:41 a.m.
Thread:
Theyd Better Win a Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBigFlyera</b></div><div>Yikes a Leafs fan 😂😂😂 isn’t it sad that Philly is a “joke” and yet we have the same amount of playoff series wins in the last decade even tho we have only been in the playoffs 3 of the last 10 years? That’s a funny joke to me! Imagine having some of the best players in the world and winning the same amount in the playoffs as a “joke” 😂😂</div></div>
I'd cheer for the Leafs over the Flyers any day pal. At least they put together a quality team every year, couple embarrassing losses, couple tough opponents, that's playoff hockey. Happy to know they'll be back in the mix once again next year while Philly will be out of the conversation before the season even starts with no clear path out of the basement.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:26 a.m.
Thread:
Theyd Better Win a Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBigFlyera</b></div><div>Enjoy wasting the greatest player of all time lol will be a great stain on the franchise when McDavid inevitably forced out because the rest of the team and org aside from Drai is a dumpster fire and then you will be right back where we are</div></div>
Not even an Oilers fan, Philly is a joke of an organization. Going to be a long time before they're competitive again. At least Oilers fans get to enjoy good hockey
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:18 a.m.
Thread:
Theyd Better Win a Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBigFlyera</b></div><div>You can say whatever you want I couldn’t care less it’s irrelevant lol. GMs set their ask. They don’t have to trade the players if they get offered a terrible offer like this.</div></div>
Enjoy the rebuild 👍
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
Thread:
Theyd Better Win a Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Moss_Bucket</b></div><div>TK is a point per game player at his best and Hart is their starter who they don't need to trade.</div></div>
Konecny just had his best statistical season and finished 91 in the league in scoring. Hart is a good goalie but certainly not a star. Not sure how you can expect 2+ firsts for either player when much better players haven't garnered that return
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:38 p.m.
Thread:
Theyd Better Win a Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBigFlyera</b></div><div>This doesn’t get you TK or Hart lol let alone both.
Trade breaks down like this:
Campbell and a 1st and 3rd to dump him (probably still not even enough)
Tk for a 1st and Broberg (not even close to enough)
Hart with $2M retained for ….. free?
Not sure how you thought this was even close lol. Flyers want 2 firsts and prospects for TK and they want multiple firsts for Hart. So at minimum ur 3 firsts and a prospect or two away and that’s not even including probably another 2nd for the $2M worth of retention lol</div></div>
Flyers can want whatever they want, what have either of those players done to bring in that return? If that's the ask and they were going to get it, it would be a done deal
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread:
What Id Like to See Hopefully Realistic
Holloway is untouchable not to mention quite an overpay for no retention
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
Thread:
What Id Like to See Hopefully Realistic
Oilers trade is an overpay.
With the Canucks trade, I'd 100% take that.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
Thread:
ELITE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilersfan05</b></div><div>The First-Round exit Rangers?</div></div>
As opposed to what, the second round exit Oilers?
There's absolutely no realism presented in anything done in this AGM to begin with. Toronto looks to move Brodie for cap purposes, not to bring in double than they're sending out. The Rangers trade is in line with many of the undervaluations of other team's assets that plague the Oilers fanbase. Mayfield is rumoured to be looking for something more in-line with a $4M/4y deal and you've offered him less than half of that.
Mazura is not a legitimate NHL prospect. Brind'Amour has already opted for free agency and is not signing with Edmonton: the young man already has an AHL deal with Carolina's affiliate.
Maybe try and lurk around a bit more and get a sense for what proper player and trade values are before being snarky with other users? You certainly haven't earned that right, nor will you. That's not the kind of environment we want to foster at CapFriendly.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
Smart And Logical Thing To Do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IDKtbh</b></div><div>Zadina, in my estimation is better player than Yamamoto and still has potential that could be unlocked playing with RNH, Leon or McDavid. He also plays a strong 200 foot game and is signed to a very favorable contract for another 2 seasons and is 40% cheaper than Yamamoto.</div></div>
Edmonton's bigger problem at large is that they already maintain a gluttony of left-shot forwards in their system: Zadina <em>could be</em> a really cool piece for Edmonton to employ if he regains the kind of potential we saw in Halifax, but the Oilers are in a point in their window where gambling on maybes needs to be kept to a minimum. I think it makes more sense for both sides to consider Yamamoto in a swap for David Perron. Perron combines that highly desirable two-way play with offensive prowess, and fills multiple holes that the Oilers are sorely lacking as of this current moment.
I would start with a package of Berezkin (Edmonton's third-ish best prospect, mileage may vary), Yamamoto, and Edmonton's 2024 2nd round pick in exchange for Perron with enough retention to match Yamamoto's cap hit ($1.65M, or about 35%).
Berezkin recently signed a two year extension with his KHL club and won't be of any immediate use to the Oilers outside of as a trade chip. His ceiling appears to be in the Gusev-to-Radulov tier of Russian wingers, which I think Detroit could find useful. The draft capital is of obvious want as 2024 marks what should be the last true year of the Red Wings stockpiling prospects, and Yamamoto is an everyday third line winger with enough remaining upside to hold some viability in the top six if injury strikes.
This leaves the Red Wings room to do a proper slumping prospect for slumping prospect deal with Zadina, where there's more room for upside in any return.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
Thread:
Smart And Logical Thing To Do
Yamo trade doesn't move the needle for me. I doubt Oilers fans are excited either. At some point a rebuilding team has to take the next step. I'm not saying go all Kenny Holland looking for quick fixes to be mediocre.
But we can't keep using the "we need more picks" crutch. We've had more picks than most teams during Yzerman's 4 years as Red Wings GM. He's done a great job.
But we're in danger of becoming a "pissing into the wind" team if we don't 💩 or get off the pot. It's like we keep making excuses why we shouldn't make an impactful trade. 1 big trade isn't going to ruin the franchise. Or even dare I say it, 2 big trades.
Like what are we doing here? Do we want to improve or not? If we do then we need to get out there and compete for players. This team's future will be built mostly with Yzerman's draft picks. I get that.
But as we all know, there's no exact timeline when things will all come together. Young players develop at different rates. Some quickly. Some need more time. Some will be busts.
My point is I don't want to be here in 5 years sitting on CFACGM and wondering when we're going to make the playoffs. Wondering when this team can be in a position to compete for a Cup.
The last thing I want to hear in 5 years is how we can acquire more picks by taking on cap dumps. Or how many picks we can acquire at the trade deadline.
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