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Armchair-GM
Mar. 25, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Chris Tough
Obviously no from Montreal
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NHL
Mar. 20, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
Thread:
Tintin's Eastern Conference GM rankings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tintin</b></div><div>*** A Tier ***
1. Waddell - Canes
Mostly good moves with carolina, no real blemishes that come to mind.
Getting Burns with retention for basically nothing is one of the greatest trades ever.
2. Brisebois - Tampa
Right from the get-go he was set up for success with this Tampa core, all he had to do was getting them over the top. And he did just that. Flipping JT Miller for Coleman + Goodrow + cap space was nothing short of genius. Hagel trade is a massive W and so was forcing McDonough out this last summer without having to pay Nashville to take his cap on. I think Brisebois did everything right from the moment he got the job all the way up until trading for Jeannot.
3. Fitzgerald - Devils
Walking W
Sold off rather well in the 2020 and 2021 TDLs.
Rebuilt the Devils blueline by getting Hamilton, Graves, Marino and Siegenthaler in by only having to give up a 2nd, two 3rds and Ty Smith. Hughes 8 x 8 extension is looking more and more like a steal by each day. Drafting has also been on point mostly throughout his tenure. So happy he's the Devils GM.
*** B TIER ***
4. Adams - Sabres
I really like what Adams has done with the Sabres so far. Drafting has been on point, particularly the 2020 one with Levi, Peterka and Quinn all looking to play key roles on a future contender. He absolutely knocked the Eichel trade out of the park. But perhaps most significant is how amazing the Tage and Cozens extensions are looking. The only moves I really didn’t like from him are selling way too low on Montour and the Greenway trade which seem like a waste of a 2nd rd pick to me.
5. Zito - Panthers
The waiver-claim God. I have soft spot for him. Definitely a Zito stan.
While having that 10m black hole that is Bobrovsky’s contract hanging over his head, here’s some of his numerous Ws in his tenure with the Panthers:
Tkachuk
signing Weegar to 3.25m AAV
Finding 4 top 6 fwds in Duclair, Verhaeghe, Bennet and Marchment for next to nothing
Getting Montour for a 3rd.
This man found two (2!) top 4 defensemen in Mahura and Forsling on frickin WAIVERS! INSANITY!
Such a shame he had to tarnish his Panthers tenure with that god awful Chiarot trade. (What’s up with Chiarot burning otherwise brilliant GMs btw….)
6. Yzerman - dead things
One year ago I’d have considered Yzerman a top 5 GM in the league, now not so much. Vrana, Chiarot and Copp are some major f ups and committing them all in the span of one year would hurt any GM’s reputation. And that’s not counting the Nedeljkovic signing and how bad a decision passing on Wallstedt in favour of Cossa is looking right now. But still, there’s some major Ws to offset those Ls. He consistently finds value throughout the draft rounds and turning frickin Leddy into Jake Walman for example.
7. Sweeney - Bruins
Sweeney’s been with the Bruins for a long time. For every two good decisions there is a bad one, which is on balance quite decent. The amount of value gained by getting Pasta, Marchand and Bergeron signed to those AAVs below 7m is quite the achievement and has played a key factor in maintaining a high level of competitiveness for a long time. The 2015 draft will always hold him back from the highest tier however.
*** C TIER ***
8. MacLellan - Caps
Lots of value lost out on in how vanecek and samsonov were handled. Massive TDL. I like the Strome signing a lot.
I agree with MacLellan's overall vision for the Caps in trying to use this TDL to retool and be as competitive as possible for Ovi's last years.
9. Dubas - Laffs
First off, the flat cap really screwed him over. Committing all that cap space to Tavares, Matthews and Marner right before covid is just terrible luck, completely neutered the ceiling of this core’s competitive window.
He’s done plenty of F ups in his tenure though. The one that comes to my mind is the Rielly signing. He’s not worth his AAV and I for one thought it was a mistake the day the extension got signed. That led directly to having to fill the rest of this year’s roster out with very limited cap space. It also created the conditions for a terribly misguided Sandin trade. Between moving Sandin out and trading for Schenn and McCabe, Dubas actively downgraded his D corps in what may turn out to be one of the last years the Leafs can contend.
Still, I think Dubas is a decent GM. For example, I love how good he is at consistently finding value in the draft while trading back.
10. Hughes - Habs
Hasn’t been on the job that long. I think he approached the 2022 TDL correctly. Stealing a 1st from Zito in the Chiarot trade is an absolute heist. Moving Toffoli, Kulak and Lehkonen out also made a lot of sense, as did taking Monahan’s contract on for a 1st.
I didn’t like what Hughes did at the draft though, particularly the 1st rd. Between Slaf, Nemec, Cooley, Wright and Jiricek, Slaf clearly felt like the wrong choice at #1 to me. Picking any of the other 4 would’ve been a lot better. Following that up by dealing Romanov for #13 was an absolute heist, but then moving #13 on to the Hawks for Dach in return seem like a big missed opportunity to me.
Hughes did redeem himself the next day by picking Hutson and Beck up in the 2nd rd though so that’s something.
I didn't like the Petry trade for the Habs either, should've targeted more futures going back than Matheson coming off a career year with the Penguins.
*** D TIER ***
11. Drury - R*gs
Decent in the contracts he signs, the only really bad one is Goodrow that comes to mind. Buchnevich trade is a massive L however.
12. Kekkäläinen - CBJ
Sympathetic figure. Mostly good trades and decent at the draft table. Horrible in FA and roster construction however.
This Blue Jackets team better be one of the best in the league once they come out of the rebuild, if not Kekkäläinen's tenure would go down as a massive failure.
13. Dorion - Sens
I feel kinda bad for Dorion. He’s horribly outclassed by the other GMs he has to contend with within his division. Once in a while he pulls off a decent move like trading for Chychrun or signing Stützle to a steal of a contract. But that’s very much offset by the myriad of Ls he has inflicted on this organisation: Duchene trade, Filip Gustavsson trade, Matt Murray, Zaitsev, drafting Boucher at #10 LMAO. Such a terribly mediocre GM
14 - Lamoriello - Isles
this man just keeps committing to an aging and declining roster propped up by one of the worlds best goalies in sorokin. Traded Toews away for scraps, dealt pick 13 for Nazar. The only thing keeping him from the lower tiers is that he managed to pull two consecutive ECFs off
*** F TIER ***
15. Hextall - Pens
ass gm. walking L. bet he's a Flyers double agent intent on destroying the penguins from within
The Flyers and Briere goes unranked but you can bet your ass that Fletcher would've showed up in last place on this list if he were still employed.</div></div>
Hughes most definitely doesn't deserve a C. Only questionable thing he's done is taking Slaf. Dach has been our 3rd best forward behind Suzuki and Caufield (could argue he's been a bigger/better surprise than Suzuki). Getting him for the 13th Overall pick is a big win for us, especially considering we got the 13th Overall pick for Romanov. Hutson's pick was from Edmonton who we traded for a 2nd which was way above market value. Dach's contract is a steal as well.
It's still way early to tell, but it's unjust to give him a C
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NHL
Mar. 19, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
Thread:
Tintin's Eastern Conference GM rankings
*** A Tier ***
1. Waddell - Canes
Mostly good moves with carolina, no real blemishes that come to mind.
Getting Burns with retention for basically nothing is one of the greatest trades ever.
2. Brisebois - Tampa
Right from the get-go he was set up for success with this Tampa core, all he had to do was getting them over the top. And he did just that. Flipping JT Miller for Coleman + Goodrow + cap space was nothing short of genius. Hagel trade is a massive W and so was forcing McDonough out this last summer without having to pay Nashville to take his cap on. I think Brisebois did everything right from the moment he got the job all the way up until trading for Jeannot.
3. Fitzgerald - Devils
Walking W
Sold off rather well in the 2020 and 2021 TDLs.
Rebuilt the Devils blueline by getting Hamilton, Graves, Marino and Siegenthaler in by only having to give up a 2nd, two 3rds and Ty Smith. Hughes 8 x 8 extension is looking more and more like a steal by each day. Drafting has also been on point mostly throughout his tenure. So happy he's the Devils GM.
*** B TIER ***
4. Adams - Sabres
I really like what Adams has done with the Sabres so far. Drafting has been on point, particularly the 2020 one with Levi, Peterka and Quinn all looking to play key roles on a future contender. He absolutely knocked the Eichel trade out of the park. But perhaps most significant is how amazing the Tage and Cozens extensions are looking. The only moves I really didn’t like from him are selling way too low on Montour and the Greenway trade which seem like a waste of a 2nd rd pick to me.
5. Zito - Panthers
The waiver-claim God. I have soft spot for him. Definitely a Zito stan.
While having that 10m black hole that is Bobrovsky’s contract hanging over his head, here’s some of his numerous Ws in his tenure with the Panthers:
Tkachuk
signing Weegar to 3.25m AAV
Finding 4 top 6 fwds in Duclair, Verhaeghe, Bennet and Marchment for next to nothing
Getting Montour for a 3rd.
This man found two (2!) top 4 defensemen in Mahura and Forsling on frickin WAIVERS! INSANITY!
Such a shame he had to tarnish his Panthers tenure with that god awful Chiarot trade. (What’s up with Chiarot burning otherwise brilliant GMs btw….)
6. Yzerman - dead things
One year ago I’d have considered Yzerman a top 5 GM in the league, now not so much. Vrana, Chiarot and Copp are some major f ups and committing them all in the span of one year would hurt any GM’s reputation. And that’s not counting the Nedeljkovic signing and how bad a decision passing on Wallstedt in favour of Cossa is looking right now. But still, there’s some major Ws to offset those Ls. He consistently finds value throughout the draft rounds and turning frickin Leddy into Jake Walman for example.
7. Sweeney - Bruins
Sweeney’s been with the Bruins for a long time. For every two good decisions there is a bad one, which is on balance quite decent. The amount of value gained by getting Pasta, Marchand and Bergeron signed to those AAVs below 7m is quite the achievement and has played a key factor in maintaining a high level of competitiveness for a long time. The 2015 draft will always hold him back from the highest tier however.
*** C TIER ***
8. MacLellan - Caps
Lots of value lost out on in how vanecek and samsonov were handled. Massive TDL. I like the Strome signing a lot.
I agree with MacLellan's overall vision for the Caps in trying to use this TDL to retool and be as competitive as possible for Ovi's last years.
9. Dubas - Laffs
First off, the flat cap really screwed him over. Committing all that cap space to Tavares, Matthews and Marner right before covid is just terrible luck, completely neutered the ceiling of this core’s competitive window.
He’s done plenty of F ups in his tenure though. The one that comes to my mind is the Rielly signing. He’s not worth his AAV and I for one thought it was a mistake the day the extension got signed. That led directly to having to fill the rest of this year’s roster out with very limited cap space. It also created the conditions for a terribly misguided Sandin trade. Between moving Sandin out and trading for Schenn and McCabe, Dubas actively downgraded his D corps in what may turn out to be one of the last years the Leafs can contend.
Still, I think Dubas is a decent GM. For example, I love how good he is at consistently finding value in the draft while trading back.
10. Hughes - Habs
Hasn’t been on the job that long. I think he approached the 2022 TDL correctly. Stealing a 1st from Zito in the Chiarot trade is an absolute heist. Moving Toffoli, Kulak and Lehkonen out also made a lot of sense, as did taking Monahan’s contract on for a 1st.
I didn’t like what Hughes did at the draft though, particularly the 1st rd. Between Slaf, Nemec, Cooley, Wright and Jiricek, Slaf clearly felt like the wrong choice at #1 to me. Picking any of the other 4 would’ve been a lot better. Following that up by dealing Romanov for #13 was an absolute heist, but then moving #13 on to the Hawks for Dach in return seem like a big missed opportunity to me.
Hughes did redeem himself the next day by picking Hutson and Beck up in the 2nd rd though so that’s something.
I didn't like the Petry trade for the Habs either, should've targeted more futures going back than Matheson coming off a career year with the Penguins.
*** D TIER ***
11. Drury - R*gs
Decent in the contracts he signs, the only really bad one is Goodrow that comes to mind. Buchnevich trade is a massive L however.
12. Kekkäläinen - CBJ
Sympathetic figure. Mostly good trades and decent at the draft table. Horrible in FA and roster construction however.
This Blue Jackets team better be one of the best in the league once they come out of the rebuild, if not Kekkäläinen's tenure would go down as a massive failure.
13. Dorion - Sens
I feel kinda bad for Dorion. He’s horribly outclassed by the other GMs he has to contend with within his division. Once in a while he pulls off a decent move like trading for Chychrun or signing Stützle to a steal of a contract. But that’s very much offset by the myriad of Ls he has inflicted on this organisation: Duchene trade, Filip Gustavsson trade, Matt Murray, Zaitsev, drafting Boucher at #10 LMAO. Such a terribly mediocre GM
14 - Lamoriello - Isles
this man just keeps committing to an aging and declining roster propped up by one of the worlds best goalies in sorokin. Traded Toews away for scraps and dealt pick 13 for Romanov. The only thing keeping him from the lower tiers is that he managed to pull two consecutive ECFs off
*** F TIER ***
15. Hextall - Pens
ass gm. walking L. bet he's a Flyers double agent intent on destroying the penguins from within
The Flyers and Briere goes unranked but you can bet your ass that Fletcher would've showed up in last place on this list if he were still employed.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 19, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
Thread:
Best Hockey Movie
"Hold ar' beerz eh Coa-uch!"
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2023 at 10:06 p.m.
Thread:
Trade for Matthews
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BenningTruther</b></div><div>crazy overpay for roy, wouldnt even offer that package for turcotte</div></div>
I'm amused that you think Turcotte is worth more than Roy.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread:
A Trade Idea That Probably Will Cause Debate
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>I’m one of the few that likes him as a player and I don’t blame Montreal for keeping him.</div></div>
I want us to keep him and hope nobody makes a sufficient offer. This doesn't do it and involves a silly use of a retention slot besides.
Everyone is hyper-focused on value and advanced stats without consideration for the reality that you need to pay to keep certain players and analytics aren't everything.
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NHL
Mar. 16, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
Thread:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #13: Happy trade deadline day!
Every team passed on vrana who was free at the time. Great job by the blues for giving him another opportunity. Good for vrana.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
Thread:
Worst Contracts
Anderson is useful for the Habs. Maybe we could reduce the contract by a mill, but other than that the contract isn't that bad.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2023 at 9:02 a.m.
Thread:
More Rumors Off Season Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Don't think MTL would even offer that at this point and don't think Winnipeg accepts it either.
It's a weird game of chess right now and will be determined by PLDs next contract</div></div>
I wouldnt if i was the habs. Anderson has been playing his best hockey since we traded for him this last stretch, there's no reason to give up a first period at this point, plus there's a good chance we will be drafting another center this year that could very well slot into the top 6 in the near future
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
Thread:
Draft Day
Rushing the rebuild is the best way to f up the rebuild.
let the bad contracts of Armia and Gallagher go through the progression until they either expire and go on LTIRetired respectively.
Stock the system, let the young guys get experience, the Suzuki/Caufield/Guhle's of this team will only be 24-25-ish years old by that time, still entering their prime.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
Thread:
Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nick_SUCCzuki</b></div><div>Reinbacher at 5th? We should do bpa and I think that would be Benson, Smith than someone else. I don't think Reinbacher should be picked in the top 10 (same with ASP) . . . </div></div>
I know that that's the common wisdom, and I subscribe to it, too, but remember where a smarter guy than all of us selected Moritz Seider, which was an equal surprise.
I also completely agree with you that once one of Reinbacher/Sandin Pillikka goes (maybe to Detroit), there's an excellent chance that the other goes to Buffalo.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 13, 2023 at 10:44 p.m.
Thread:
Some ideas for this offseason
We all want to see Zadina succeed but it may be a numbers issue in Detroit as he's getting passed on the depth chart and just taking up someone else's space.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 13, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
Thread:
Huge question for Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>How about Hoffman at 50% for a 4th rounder?</div></div>
Nah bro we don't need more players over 30 :tearsofjoy
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
Thread:
The Last Dance
Dylan DeMelo is a right-handed defenseman. We have enough of those.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
Thread:
The Last Dance
Habs pass
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 10:31 p.m.
Thread:
The Last Dance
Dach is not avaible. You may have Gurianov!
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
Thread:
habs
You think that we would PAY you for one season of Mike Hoffman?!?!?
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NHL
Mar. 12, 2023 at 8:31 p.m.
Thread:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #13: Happy trade deadline day!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CantStopWontStop</b></div><div>Senators gonna handle the bruins.
They’re one of the few teams who have all had close games with Boston - are 1-2-1. Before Chychrun and his magic meat.</div></div>
They just got embarrassed by the 2022/2023 Vancouver Canucks. They aren't even making the playoffs if they keep playing like that
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
Thread:
Starting To Rebuild The Flyers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>For sure but it’s just tough to see who has a shut down RHD who can play in your second pairing and is willing to sell. I would definitely look at Tanev given everyone knows Calgary has to shed cap. Most of the bad teams don’t have a player like that. Come to think of it, want David Savard?</div></div>
No, I'd want a defensemen who can actually shut it down, not one that used to be able to.
I don't even need them to get a shut down D, just someone who is good. A good puck mover who isn't a liability in their own end. They're better off investing in goaltending than trying too hard to find shut down guys. Just find players who can mesh well with what's already on the team.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
Thread:
Starting To Rebuild The Flyers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>Ok at least you’re basing it off hockey and not nonsense. You have a lot of LHD for sure but finding a good RHD is tough in a trade. You might be better off acquiring an experienced LHD of some sort and playing Dahlin and Power on the right.</div></div>
Dahlin already plays on the right side so that's really not an issue. As for the fancy stats, I'm not sure we can rely completely on those. He's a minute-eating top four d-man who could probably hang with Dahlin on the top pair.
It's an interesting trade but his salary the next two seasons is $17M meaning one of those trade pieces needs to go. The pride/Christianity thing is somewhat bothersome to me but from a hockey standpoint, based upon my thoughts while minimally watching him, I don't think this trade is too far off.
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NHL
Mar. 12, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
Thread:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #13: Happy trade deadline day!
Carlo lucky as fook.
Makes a great puck-play on Veleno breakaway BUT goes head-first, >20mph & full gumby mode into end boards; doesn't miss a shift!
:bruins vs :redwings
Home & Home
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread:
trading matthews
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>TBH, you can kill 3 birds with 1 stone with a Mathews trade. If you take 2 of Karlsson, Smith and Marshessault then the cap works. If you choose Karlsson and Smith you add the playoff toughness up front and you are going to get a better package of futures in the deal as well so IMO trading Mathews could be a triple hitter. The issue is can the Leafs expect to contend if they trade one of the leagues top 5 players?</div></div>
I have to look up Lehner's injury report. If his career is over, than his $5 added onto Karlsson $6 will allow VGK to take the full $11 million contract of AM34.
Also if I place 5 of the Ahl'ers I have on the main roster onto the Marlies, that'll free up $4 million to sign an UFA impact player or a TDL trade.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 1:39 p.m.
Thread:
How bout that
Hart isn't worth that
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread:
How bout that
So, it's not just Hab fans that over-evaluate their players
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NHL
Mar. 9, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
Thread:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #13: Happy trade deadline day!
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