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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
Thread:
offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>1. Well, that's too much for DeBrincat
Change the 9th OA to 17th OA, remove a 2nd
2. Remove Laughton and Joseph + 2nd in the Philly trade. Ottawa needs better 2-way play from the forwards, not a few more points.
Hart + Konecny
for
2023 1st round pick (DET) : 9th OA
2024 1st round pick (OTT)
2023 2nd round pick (STL)
Watch Flyers fan say hell no! :tearsofjoy
Your expectations are totally realistic!
You realize that Laughton scores about 10 more pts per 82 games while getting more minutes (including PP) and not being as good defensively or on the PK?
But one has 1st round pick value and the other is not worthy of a waiver claim? lol
I wouldn't even make the swap based on team's need (which is unfortunately not something Dorion understands). I would keep the much better skater for my 4th line and PK and fill my top-9 with the roster player player we get back for DeBrincat.</div></div>
Laughton had 18 goals and 43 points last season in 78 games. Joseph has 15 goals and 48 points over his last 125 games. It's been a LONG time since Joseph had that career high season of 13 goals/26 points for Tampa in 18-19. Laughton is twice the player Joseph is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.
Thread:
Blow it sky high
That Hart trade is BAD for the Flyers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:45 a.m.
Thread:
Getting that 2c
Easy pass from the Flyers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
Thread:
Three way trade to get Konecny and Laughton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>Ottawa loses this trade. St Louis does well for themselves. <strong>Philly wins this by a landslide.</strong></div></div>
You might want to look at that again because obviously you missed the fact that the Flyers are giving up Laughton as well. A 2024 first, Boucher and Ostapchuk not only isn't a landslide win for the Flyers, it's a bad deal that the Flyers wouldn't do. Boucher is a bust, Ostapchuk is ok, and the first is a year down the line and not in as good of a draft. The Flyers can do way better for TK.
Add in Laughton who carries at least a late first round value on his own and it's horrendous.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
Thread:
Best Case Scenario
Take out the 50% retention and add a first and change the 2024 2nd to 2023 and that would get Konecny. Or keep the retention and add two firsts.
Imagine thinking a deal like the original offer has even a snow balls chance in hell of happening.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:34 a.m.
Thread:
Briere and Buffalo Broker
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AlCanal</b></div><div>#13 OA is a pretty steep price. And each 2nd Rd is a high pk. I’d bet most BUF fans would say no deal.</div></div>
Hart won't be cheap and yes 13 is a really nice piece in a great draft but they are also getting him retained and he is a crazy bargain at only 2 million.
The Flyers 2nd is early, the Buffalo 2nd is mid. Laughton is worth a late first and B prospect. On second glance it's not terrible based on where the picks are but it's still something I wouldn't do and I doubt the Flyers would either.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
Thread:
Run it again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>I don't think Carolina would trade Martinook in any deal for TK. They aren't going to move someone who is highly valued by the team for a top-six forward they can acquire from any team that has one (Garland/Boeser/Keller/etc).</div></div>
Imagine a team being like "yeah we will keep the 15 goal/30 point 31 year old over the 26 year old 30 goal/60-80 point winger. That is literally the silliest thing I have heard in a while and that is saying something.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
Thread:
Run it again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Laughable as it may be but the FO wont trade Martinook. He doesn’t carry the value in the market as he does for the team. We would find another asset to make the deal work.</div></div>
So if Briere called up and said we will give you Konecny for Martinook the Canes would decline? You honestly believe that?
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
Thread:
Good
Do the Flyers at least get some lube and a reach around with this?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:31 p.m.
Thread:
Run it again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>I can't see him being part of any deal for TK. Basically giving away 3 first round picks + 3rd for TK. CAR isn't going to do that</div></div>
I agree and it's because the Flyers have no need for a 31 year old 3rd liner when they are just starting a rebuild, not because he is so good Carolina wouldn't trade him for TK.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
Thread:
Run it again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>He's the type of player that is more valuable to CAR than any other team. Glue guy that is a good locker room guy and plays the bottom-six role to perfection. Probably viewed in similar value as Laughton to the Flyers</div></div>
No no no, I get all of that, but he said he is "untouchable" which literally means they wouldn't trade him and to walk away from a deal for Konecny over Martinook is laughable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.
Thread:
Goal Scoring and Size
The Flyers aren't trading TK right now without getting back a 2023 first AND A level prospect (this proposal has neither) even if there is a bunch of decent "stuff" in the deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:23 p.m.
Thread:
Run it again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Martinook and Nikishin are basically untouchable for Carolina</div></div>
A soon to be 31 year old 3rd liner whose career high is 15 goals and 34 points is "untouchable??" Please tell me what I'm missing. I mean I couldn't care less because the Flyers have no need for him or a player like him since they are rebuilding, but untouchable?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
Thread:
Briere and Buffalo Broker
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>These trades are objectively terrible for the flyers</div></div>
Yep. A 1st and two seconds for Hart and Laughton with retention on Hart is terrible.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
Thread:
Modest offseason
As much as I am sure the Flyers would just love to have a 5'9 175 defenseman who is -34 with 28 points in 170 games, they decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
Thread:
offseason
I would trade TK for 9 and a 2nd. HOWEVER, I wouldn't trade Hart for a top 15 protected future 1st and 2nd, and I wouldn't take Joseph with his contract for free, let alone trade a guy who has first round value in Laughton for him. Overall it's a laughable deal for the Flyers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason
Laughton for Garland is absolutely hilarious. Thank you for the mid Monday laugh to get me going again.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread:
moving yammo
Oilers fans are really clueless when it comes to Yamamoto. It doesn't matter how many reputable people come out and say they might even have to buy him out. They sure as heck aren't getting a 3rd in a loaded draft for him at a whopping 500K retained.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.
Thread:
Offseason
A bust, a B level prospect, and a crappy 30 year old backup goalie walk into a bar.........
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 18, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.
Thread:
Exploring v4
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Flyers aren’t trading anything for a 30 year old defenseman</div></div>
Yep, not even a 7th.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 18, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
Thread:
If konecny too high value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Moss_Bucket</b></div><div>Tippett isn't being shopped and would likely cost more than TK because of age and contract value. If you can't get us to deal you TK you can certainly forget Tippett.</div></div>
Yep and not to mention his offer is junk.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 18, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.
Thread:
23-24 Avs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Even if it’s the 2023 1st it still isn’t enough</div></div>
Newhook is exactly the type of playmaking LW/C we could use and at only 22 he would likely thrive here with a bigger role and more ice time.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 18, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
Thread:
23-24 Avs
Flyers pass unless thats a 2023 1st.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 18, 2023 at 4:26 p.m.
Thread:
STL-CGY-PHI and STL-SEA-PIT
The value is fine more or less but a rebuilding team has no use for a 32 year old D with three years of term left at 4 million. Flyers decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 18, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
Thread:
Retooling around the Core 4
That is a pathetically bad offer for TK and Laughton alone, then you want retention on both? LMMFAO
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