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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 4, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.

Thread: Two trades

Not enough for the Lindholm trade. Replace Vlasic with Beaudin and it gets closer, but you probably have to throw in another piece, or at least make the picks have conditions that can elevate them.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 2, 2021 at 12:17 p.m.

Thread: Opening Night with One Final Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>That’s a lot better than this offer.</div></div>

I could 100% see the Hawks adding any lander to this deal without batting an eye. I think Mitchell is untouchable, if for no other reason than he’s the only NHL-ready RHD prospect the Hawks have. Strome + Nylander + Beaudin + Connolly + conditional 2nd?

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2021 at 5:39 p.m.

Thread: Next Season No Trades Shaw Offseason LTIR

I think with no trades, you're more than likley going to see Gaudette or Borgstrom get a shot at 3C with TyJo on the wing (or reversed), but I don't see the Hawks trading for Borg and Gaudette and obliterating their development.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.

Thread: Nice

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Beetlejuice</b></div><div>Looking like de Haan is be moved, so I'd expect Chicago is looking to acquire another defenseman</div></div>

They may wnat Beaudin to get time with Jones this year, which would mean Stillman - McCabe (assuming he signs) - Beaudin - Kalynuk as the LD group if DeHaan is moved.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.

Thread: Bowman 20

THat CBJ trade is still bad for the Hawks. One year of Jones (and the ability to negotiate/extend prior to UFA) is not worth Boqvist+Strome. Also, Suter or Martinez fit the Hawks way better than Yandle, and selling of Nylander and Kampf for scraps makes no sense.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2021 at 5:19 p.m.

Thread: Post-Keith Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Caleb on top pair with prove to be a disaster. I think in a limited role he’s an everyday nhler but playing with fire putting him any higher right now. As exciting as it might be to think of the brothers together but they just aren’t the same caliber of player</div></div>

THose pairings are hyper-flexible. More likely than not De Hann - Murphy or De Haan - Jones would take minutes against top lines, and you'd adjust accordingly.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: Jones Squared

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ffmorgan09</b></div><div>switch out strom and mitchel for either Dach or Boqvist and you got yourself a deal, especially if he comes with an extension</div></div>

Not a chance in hell. Jones isn't fetching Dach or Boqvist after his 2021 season with one year left on his contract. Mitchell + Strome + a high first is entirely reasonable, and frankly more than I would want to give up, but could tolerate. If that was the price, Hawks would just sign Martinez, or trade for Leddy, or go after Lindholm.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.

Thread: Competitive

Way too much for Seth, that defense isn't competitive (it's awful), and we're not signing 3 UFA forwards when we have Suter, Kurashev, Hagel, etc.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.

Thread: Keith Cap Dumps and Goalies

Hawks decline. We'll keep Keith if that's the deal. Swap Neal for Koskinen and change the pick to a 6th and we can talk.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.

Thread: July 4th Hawks - Jones Bros

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilnate</b></div><div>Not super familiar with either player but why does New Jersey want zadorov instead of Butcher</div></div>

Butcher's been steadily declining and being relegated to a 6D bench player by NJ coaching. Zadorov is too slow for the defensive system that Colliton runs, but is probably a better player right now than Butcher. They'll get paid similarly.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.

Thread: Jones Bros

Yea, that trade is comically bad.

I might give up Dach + Boqvist + 1st for Adam Fox or Cale Makar, but Seth coming off a bad year and hitting UFA in 1? Nope.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.

Thread: Toews Return and Keith Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>no</div></div>

Care to offer anything more than "no"?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.

Thread: Monahan and Defense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Devils don't want Zadarov</div></div>

They don't want Butcher, either. Would you prefer a De Haan or Connolly swap instead?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 11:44 a.m.

Thread: jack sam rasmus shuffle the deck 7 picks among the top 32

Hawks say no, no, no.

Toews will never be traded by the Hawks except in an LTIR situation.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: Contract clearing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Hawks Pass unless the 2021 1st is being sent. Jones is awful even at a reduce contract amount.</div></div>

Yeah, only way I see the Hawks interested in this with no picks is if you swap Seabs for Shaw there.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 12:15 a.m.

Thread: I think this seems pretty reasonable

Chicago says yes and thank you.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.

Thread: Ducks Eichel

I think the trade is fair value easily. The question is, can a team like The Kings, Hawks, Jackets, or even MTL beat it?

If you make the 22 pick a 1st, I think it easily gets the deal done, unless LAK beats it.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 3:23 p.m.

Thread: One Last Dance

As fun as the idea is, I think the Hawks have to say no to that trade. Losing Dach + Strome + 2 1sts for Eichel makes us better for a year or two maybe, but the cap repercussions and the lost talent and rookies will hurt too much.

I also think signing folks like Raffl, Perry, and Saad doesn't make any sense when we have players like Hagel, Kurashev, and Nylander fighting for minutes, and folks like Vinnie on the outside looking in.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.

Thread: Seth Jones

Hawks and Jackets should say no. Jones is a (potentially) declining RHD who will need a new contract, and the Hawks need a younger LHD if anything. If the Hawks are pusing for an expensive "rental to new contract" D man, it should be Reilly or Lindholm.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: Opinions

Hawks say yes if you switch the first to '22 and the second to '21, and Reilly agrees to an appropriate extension.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2021 at 2:55 p.m.

Thread: Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kongol</b></div><div>Should Toronto add a pick to even things up?
2x 2nd rnd picks and Zadorov for Rielly.
3rd for taking Seabrook. Maybe this could be a higher pick or a pick and a prospect?

Maybe the Leafs add a prospect of their own to even the trade?

Elaborating on your thoughts will help others to understand...</div></div>

The Leafs wouldn't lose Reilly and eat salary coming back. For a team in their window to trade a #1D, even for cap reasons, would (should) require a haul coming back. My instinct would be something like Kerfoot + Reilly for Beaudin (or Kalynuk) + Zadorov + Kurashev + a 2nd. And that's operating under the premise that TOR really wants to trade Reilly, which I doubt.

Taking Seabs contract should merit a first in and of itself, and it wouldn't be the Leafs taking that on.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.

Thread: Jones and Lindholm

Stunting Boq, Mitchel, Kalynuk, and Beaudin's development (or trading them away) for a regressing 27 year old defenseman demanding a huge contract is a terrible idea. Jones should be a non-starter.

Lindholm I think makes more sense, as you're looking at him more as a De Haan/Keith replacement, but the value of this trade is off. Lindholm isn't fetching Borg + Beaud + Kurashev + more. Beaudin + Kurashev + 2nd would make more sense.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27, 2021 at 11:16 p.m.

Thread: Trying to be realistic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Edmontonian</b></div><div>Subban I think is an ok backup, Delia not so much, not sure if Soderblom is ready yet. Either way thats fair if you don't want him, he would be an improvement in net for you though, which team do you think would take him? I'm also getting the sense that nobody wants to give even a 4th for Koskinen, so would u still decline if it was Koskinen 50% retained for Future Considerations?</div></div>

If you want to give the Hawks a 5th to take Koskinen with retained salary they might. There's just no reason for anyone to trade for Kosk with folks like Driedger on the market and young goalies everywhere.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27, 2021 at 11:13 p.m.

Thread: Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZachHymanForTheHart</b></div><div>Oh my. I’ve seen bad Rielly trades... but... wow</div></div>

Bowman says yes, giggles, and runs away.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.

Thread: Trying to be realistic

Hawks have Delia + Subban + Soderblom, we're not giving up assets for Koskinen.

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