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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 5:46 pm
Thread: Questions for every Penguins player going into the season part 2
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Forum: NHLSat at 7:35 pm
Thread: What makes Sidney Crosby such a dominant force in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>Strength on skates, working on little things, and mind for the game. I mean I could wrote a paragraph on it by those three things stand out.

Can't knock him off the puck, any weak.points he constantly works on until they're strengths, and you just watch him and he's brilliant. His vision and little plays he makes just show how high his hockey IQ is.

All time I have him 5th. If he didn't have that concussion issues during those seasons where he could've legit put up 130-140 pts I might have him top 4 but that's a hard group to break into. I think his claim!.to fame is going to be playoff performance as he has a legit shot to become the 3rd all time scorer in playoff history.</div></div>
agree.
3 cups doesn't hurt at all.
I also have him at #5 but IDK who goes @ #4 behind Lemieux, Orr, and Gretzky (in whatever order)...
alot of my fellow Canadians I think overrate Gordie howe a bit. I get he was good for a long time but I don't know that he was ever great. he played a loooong time ago. it's just hard for me to take his stats seriously. there was more offense then and I don't know more than a few decent goalies from back then.
Forum: NHLSat at 7:31 pm
Thread: What makes Sidney Crosby such a dominant force in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NoWah49</b></div><div>i somewhat agree with this. Sid's game (as proven) will age far better than McDavid's will. He doesn't rely on his speed and hands to produce points. This is why he doesn't really score the super flashy goals anymore. Instead of wheeling by a defenseman and deking another (which he still does on occasion), the highlights you'll see from Sid are the ridiculous passes through 3 guys, bouncing the puck off of other defenders into the net, deflecting the puck off of himself and then proceeding to baseball the puck in the net. They're different players. One of my favorite prospects is Marco Rossi because I see so many Sid-like qualities in him</div></div>

very true. just bc Sid does't score ridiculous go through everyone solo effort goals doesn't mean he's not way better in every other aspect of the game....
breakaways or on the rush-mcdcvid
everywhere else and every other situation-sid...he's still #1
Forum: NHLSat at 7:29 pm
Thread: What makes Sidney Crosby such a dominant force in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>Crosby vs McDavid is skill vs talent. I'll explain

McDavid does what he does on talent. His speed is natural, his hands are natural. What he does requires minimal thought because it's just there for him when he needs it. Obviously he keeps up with practice and such but he would need to do so less than anyone else because it's a gift, not something he developed as much. Take that for what you will.

Crosby is skill in that he uses levels like most people. he just went farther than anyone else.

If you can't skate well, when you get on the ice, your first thoughts are about balance and moving and speed etc. If you're thinking about those things you can't really focus on other skills you need. Then you get better at skating and the next thing becomes a focus. You learn to do something well so you can think about a new thing and make the last thing automatic. That's Crosby. He works hard. Gets a thing down, moves on. His edges, his hip shifts all that stuff were projects for him as much as shot and vision.

McDavid at 18 with his talent &gt; Crosby at 18 with his.

Crosby at 36 learning constantly will be leagues ahead of McDavid at 36 because Connor just needed less work on his game so he wouldn't think of the levels Crosby did.

So if you want the better natural talent like Lemieux and Orr were, you'd pick McDavid.

And if you want the workhorse like Gretzky was you'd pick Crosby.

Personally I have Lemieux and Orr over Gretzky but I'd call McDavid vs Crosby a toss up. Both arguments are sound.</div></div>

I agree with the first part of what you said--I would have chosen a bit different vocab though. skill and talent to me are fairly similar words but I understand what you're trying to say.
just saying McDavid is more skilled I think is true (although this era is now more skilled as a whole than Sid came into the league) while Sid is more complete. McDavid is great off the rush with the puck but everywhere else Sid is better prob right?? grinding down low, cycling the puck, elevating line mates, playmaking, Defense, etc....

I also have Lemieux, Orr, Gretzky as my top-3... I say fill in the blank at number 4 just now Gordie howe lol and I have Sid at number 5.
I disagree that Sid vs McDavid is a toss up... in terms of NHL rating today that is true...but they are a diff generational player so it's hard to compare. if McDavid started in 05-06 then what happens? or if Sid starts in 2015 then what happens? McDavid got to come in guns blazing with speed and skill and still doesn't have to play D...
Sid is a way more complete player still today even though much older. if McDavid could play some D and turn good D into offense he could be that much better. like Geno he just needs to meet them [coaches] halfway. I doubt he will but...
Forum: NHLSat at 10:01 am
Thread: What makes Sidney Crosby such a dominant force in the NHL
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Forum: NHLSat at 10:00 am
Thread: What makes Sidney Crosby such a dominant force in the NHL
Sid is still #1 because of his complete game. McDavid doesn't play D.

I agree with everything you said for sure.
I'll just mention a couple other things (there's so much lol).
-I think Sid is the greatest player on the backhand I've ever seen. Not just his shot although his backhand shots are other worldly sometimes. His touch and control and tape-to-tape passing while on the backhand is stellar.
-Sid has the unique ability of elevating the play of those around him--not just getting others a few extra points. Just get open and Sid will find you in a good spot.
-Lower body strength, puck protection, and edge work all combine to make him one of the best players down low in the league. He prefers to attack with speed off the rush but as he gets older he needs to just get in the zone and cycle down low and pick apart teams defences--because that's when he's absolutely lethal.
-One intangible that can't really be measured is just the leadership and set the bar high vibe he gives off. New players to PIT have to put in the work bc he does.
-He's resilient. no one can say he's not. He's come back from horrible concussions. he's been injured IDK how many times. he takes a beating from D-men when he's around the net. The niskanen hit to the head in the playoffs and I can't remember who literally breaking a stick over his NECK come to mind.
-I could go on and on as he's been my favourite player since I don't know how long. First ballot hall of famer. number 87.