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Pensfan89

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Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago
Thread: First Look at Seattle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I have them protecting Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Rust, Kapanen, McCann and Zucker. It seems to me that Tanev would only replace one of the latter two, and considering that just last year they paid a first for Zucker, it wouldn't be him. There's always the chance of a side deal, of course, but you guys have fewer draft picks than most teams and a pretty bare prospect cupboard to facilitate that.</div></div>

I don’t mean Tanev would be protected. I mean that Zucker wouldn’t be and they likely take him. It was McCann but considering how great of a player McCann has blossomed into this year and he being on such a cheap contract, can’t see them exposing him anymore either. I see the pens protecting Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Kapanen, McCann, rust, and Blueger. There is no way they leave Blueger exposed either with the lack of center depth. The pens likely expose Zucker in hopes for 1. Cap space and 2. Because Poulin and Legare are pretty close. Hopefully Poulin at least will be ready to come in. I can see them swinging a deal of maybe trading Jankowski for them to take Zucker or one of the better prospects after Poulin/Legare/POJ. There are going to be a lot of bottom 6 guys like Tanev available and a pretty decent pickings of d and goalie. Finding a top 6 forward might be a little tough for them, outside of guys like Ry Jo and TJ
Forum: Armchair-GM17 hours ago
Thread: unrealistic Pens trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Except Marino isn't remotely as good as Nylander is. That's the point here. Nylander is the best asset by far. It's not close</div></div>

Like I said, you have extreme Homer bias. Nylander and Rust are close. I doubt the pens would do Marino for Nylander straight up. Lying and blatantly undervaluing Marino doesn’t help your case, it makes your case look worse. No one here has said Rust was better or anyone was better than Nylander in this trade. To say Marino is a bottom 4 defenseman and that’s what he will be is ridiculous. To say Nylander is far greater than both Marino and Rust (who in a similar amount of games only has 4 more goals and 49 points but twice the cap hit) is insane.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: unrealistic Pens trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Massive optimism here. And huge homer bias. Liljegren for in for 11 games when the top 3 defenceman for the Leafs were hurt and their goaltending went on a huge slide. No one looked good at that time. There isn't room this season but next year he will get the opportunity to stick. Likely as a 3rd pair guy to start but with how he's progressed on the farm, I think he has potential to be a good top 4 contributor by the time he's 25.

As for this whole Nylander vs Rust being close arguement. It's just ridiculous. He is more of a playmaker than a goal scorer which is why he has more assists than goals. Again though he done it in less games and is Four years younger. This is just silly already. We have all seen the absolute best from Rust. A good player no doubt but he is in no way ever comparable to Nylander. A point a game season of 40 goals is absolutely possible with Nylander. Compare him to Guentzal, that's a hell of a lot closer than Rust. I am fully aware this is going to trigger you guys.</div></div>

Yes you have huge Homer bias. That’s evident lol. Liljegren will possibly turn into a solid top 4 by age 25. Marino did that by age 22. To sit there and say nylander is better than rust because he is ahead of rust in trajectory then say Liljegren and Marino are the same even though Marino is miles ahead of Liljegren in trajectory is nonsense. The fact of the matter is that contending teams go based on what is the current status. Could nylander in a few years be better than he is now...sure. Is it possible this is the best of nylander too...sure. If the pens are rebuilding then this absolutely makes more sense for pittsburgh. If Rust had term I’d say this makes even more sense for the leafs. The only reason I think the leafs decline is because rust is going to want a raise and the leafs are cap strapped. I would bet leafs would take the massive upgrade in defense (especially considering their past 5 games and history) over a minor upgrade in offense.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 hours ago
Thread: unrealistic Pens trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Marino is fine, he's doesn't strike me as anything overly special just a solid NHL defenceman. A 21 year defenceman isn't a bust, especially since he's a top pairing guy showing really good progression on the far as their top defenceman. He's going to be a good player down the road. This whole Rust is close to Nylander idea is ridiculous. He's 28 and had a good year last year and is doing good this year. He's 28 though, last year is the best you are evey going to get out of him. Nylander is just entering his prime. And he's flat out better. The only way to say this favors TO is if you believe Marino is a future number 1 which is a huge stretch. He's similar to what I see Liljegren becoming which is a very good top 4 complimentary piece. A TJ Brodie if you will. Nothing all that special offensively but solid defensively. That isn't a bust. Typical fan bias here. "But rust had 27 goals last year after being a 3rd liner for his entire career prior". Nylander is better anyone who isn't loving their own player unconditionally knows this.</div></div>

Again no one here has denied that nylander is a better player than rust. What we are saying is that they are pretty close. They have played a similar amount of games and Nylander on has a 49 point advantage (4 goal advantage). It’s a fact that rust has played a bottom 6 role for a good majority of his career. He also plays the PK and a defensive role. Which is why it makes him close to Nylander. Marino is proven, Liljegren isn’t. We’ve heard the past couple years that Liljegren was going to be up and yet isn’t. I didn’t say he was a bust. I said he is close to being one. He hasn’t done squat in the nhl. He played 11 games last year in a sheltered role and looked less than impressive. Hence why he isn’t up now. It doesn’t matter what you see Liljegren as. Clearly no one else sees him as that. He may be a bottom pair dman with the potential to be a 2nd pair if he figures it out. Marino is a 2nd pair dman with the potential to be number 1. Actually likely to be a number 1. That’s hardly similar to Liljegren’s trajectory. The value between rust and Nylander isn’t Marino. That’s way too much.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago
Thread: unrealistic Pens trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Marino isn't looking all that special this season. Liljegren looks good on the farm and Nylander has more even strength points than Rust and is 4 years younger and has done it in less games. Once again, the difference between Nylander and Rust isn't Marino, the difference between Nylander and both of these assets is still more. Take Liljegren out and it's still not fair. Marino is a bottom 4 defender. Nylander is a top line play driver. Rust is a depth forward. Liljegren is a highly touted RHD who is 21.</div></div>

Obviously you repeat what the moronic trolls post and have a clear bias to toronto. Marino played the majority of the season with Matheson or on his off handed side. Since being paired back with MP, he has been playing just as good, if not better than last year. Liljegren hasn’t done squat and is close to being a bust. I don’t see a future outside a bottom pairing Dman. Marino is a top 4 dman and likely going to be a top pair dman in a couple years. Marino is light years better than Liljegren. Ask 31 gm’s right now who they’d rather have and I can guarantee all 31 would say Marino. Nylander is better than Rust but they are still close. This easily favors the leafs.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 8:45 pm
Thread: Easy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>ok now the gloves are off. You cant accept my point idiot.We DONT WANT HIM.Its STATS You want Zucker =25 games 6 goals 4 assists 10 points time on ice =15:58 hes 29 years old. He makes 5 MILLION per year.EVEN RODRIGES 27 games 5 goals 5 assists time on ice 15:02 27 years old and he makes 7 HUNDRED THOUSAND per year. who would you choose the older declining player making 5 MILLION per season or the younger player making 7 hundred thousand.Do your home work idiot i did.stop talking out of your rear end.Now run along.im done with your B.S.</div></div>

Again..Zucker is not declining. No matter how much you want to embarrass yourself making the same stupid argument because you blatantly want to be stupid, doesn’t make it true lol. Clearly not hard to get worked up either. Of course if I was a Canucks fan, I’d probably get upset easily too. You Canuck fans are quite the riot 😂. I mean ERod has nothing to do with this argument. It’s about Zucker vs Virtanen which thankfully you were brilliant in proving my point that Zucker is MILES better than Virtanen will ever be. 11 points (7 goals) in 27 games now vs 4 points (4 goals) in 32 games. Yeah, I’ll take the guy that scores more and has almost 3 times the points in less games 😂