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Forum: Mock-Draft14 hours ago
Thread: Will Scouch List
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div><strong>2020</strong> (actual)
1. Alexis Lafreniere (1)
2. Quinton Byfield (2)
3. Marco Rossi (9)
4. Lucas Raymond (4)
5. Tim Stutzle (3)

6. Cole Perfetti (10)
7. Jamie Drysdale (6)
8. Alexander Holtz (7)
9. Yaroslav Askarov (11)
10. Anton Lundell (12)

11. Rodion Amirov (15)
12. Marat Khusnutdinov (37)
13. Seth Jarvis (13)
14. Jake Sanderson (5)
15. Mavrik Bourque (30)

16. Dawson Mercer (18)
17. Dylan Holloway (14)
18. Noel Gunler (41)
19. Lukas Reichel (17)
20. William Wallinder (32)

21. Jacob Perreault (27)
22. Jack Quinn (8)
23. John-Jason Peterka (34)
24. Daniil Gushchin (76)
25. Ozzy Wiesblatt (31)

26. Connor Zary (24)
27. Jan Mysak (48)
28. Hendrix Lapierre (22)
29. Helge Grans (35)
30. Roni Hirvonen (59)


<strong>2021</strong> (actual)
1. Matthew Beniers (2)
2. William Eklund (7)
3. Jesper Wallstedt (20)
4. Fabian Lysell (21)
5. Luke Hughes (4)

6. Kent Johnson (5)
7. Owen Power (1)
8. Simon Edvinsson (6)
9. Brandt Clarke (8)
10. Dylan Guenther (9)

11. Mason McTavish (3)
12. Aatu Raty (52)
13. Fyodor Svechkov (19)
14. Logan Stankoven (47)
15. Cole Sillinger (12)

16. Simon Robertsson (71)
17. Isak Rosen (14)
18. Matthew Coronato (13)
19. Carson Lambos (26)
20. Chaz Lucius (18)

21. Scott Morrow (40)
22. Nikita Chibrikov (50)
23. Stanislav Svozil (69)
24. Sebastian Cossa (15)
25. Ville Koivunen (51)

26. Oskar Olausson (28)
27. Matthew Samoskevich (24)
28. Ayrton Martino (73)
29. William Stromgren (45)
30. Xavier Bourgault (22)


<strong>2022</strong> (actual)
1. Shane Wright (4)
2. Brad Lambert (30)
3. Logan Cooley (3)
4. David Jiricek (6)
5. Juraj Slafkovsky (1)

6. Cutter Gauthier (5)
7. Matthew Savoie (9)
8. Gleb Trikozov (60)
9. Seamus Casey (46)
10. Joakim Kemell (17)

11. Filip Mesar (26)
12. Simon Nemec (2)
13. Isaac Howard (31)
14. Liam Ohgren (19)
15. Frank Nazar (13)

16. Kevin Korchinski (7)
17. Vladimir Grudinin (156)
18. Pavel Mintyukov (10)
19. Danila Yurov (24)
20. Noah Ostlund (16)

21. Jonathan Lekkerimaki (15)
22. Owen Pickering (21)
23. Calle Odelius (65)
24. Jiri Kulich (28)
25. Conor Geekie (11)

26. Sam Rinzel (25)
27. Denton Mateychuk (12)
28. Jagger Firkus (35)
29. Paul Ludwinski (39)
30. Marco Kasper (8)</div></div>

Yeah these are kind of wacky.
Forum: Mock-DraftJan. 23 at 12:15 p.m.
Forum: Mock-DraftJan. 22 at 4:07 p.m.
Thread: Bob McKenzie Midseason List
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NotDougWilson</b></div><div>There's no way Zeev is going to be out of the top 10. I haven't quite looked at his defensive game, but if he's dynamic on both sides of the ice then it should be a no-brainer.</div></div>

It’s Denver…system hockey. So not always easy to judge. But Zeev isn’t putting up points by being their best offensive dman. He is their best dman. I think Zeev ought to be in 7-10 range.

I just find Bob McKenzie’s painfully obvious Canadian homerism to be funny.

(Sometimes he even makes fun of it himself)


In 2015, it was: “McDavid is generational”

In 2016, it was: “it’s Matthews but let’s talk about how he is not as good as McDavid”

In 2017, it was: “Nolan Patrick was a lock, top 1C”

In 2018, It was: “Dahlin, Svench…some other guys, Quinn-something…and then, the Canadians!”

In 2019, it was: “okay, maybe it could be Hughes, but here is why he won’t be best player from this draft”

In 2020, it was: “Lafreniere is generational”

In 2021, it was: “Power is Hedman…Kent is a magician…some Beniers guy, no one thinks Luke is any good”

In 2022: it was “Shane Wright’s draft to lose…tightens grip on #1”

In 2023: it was, “Bedard is generational”

In 2024, now, its…shocker…Celebrini. Because of his point totals as draft-eligible NCAA player. (But the dman who same point total…where’s he from? Oh, he falls out of top-10 and doesn’t get mentioned).
Forum: Mock-DraftJan. 9 at 8:54 p.m.
Thread: Maybe 2024 is the year of the Dman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>I hate that term, a Ferrari is better than an F-250 but not if you want to tow a trailer or go off road. Just because a player is the best player available doesn’t mean he is the best player available for your team. Now if Dickenson was an Elite generational talent and the next options are depth players and long term projects yea BPA, but if the option that fits a huge need is almost as talented as the better player who plays a position your already stacked at for the foreseeable future then you have to make the smart decision. Dickenson might end up the better player but Lindstrom could fill a huge hole in the sharks future lineup and provide far more value.</div></div>

Ferrari: $300,000
F-250: $50,000

One can sell the Ferrari and purchase six F-250's

I hear what you are saying...but BPA is usually best route.

(also...lefty/righty is overdone...Devils won three cups with no more than one righty on roster...in the first, they had six lefties).
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2023 at 6:19 a.m.
Thread: Vilardi should be a core piece for Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Playersoverpayed</b></div><div>Over and over again, big D-men are getting back bigger returns than fans expect. If speaking about MTL, remember the Chiarot trade? It was 1st round pick + additional pieces. Durzi's biggest asset are his age and another team-friendly contract. But at the moment, Edmundson : Durzi could very well be 1:1 hockey deal.</div></div>

All I'm hearing out of MTL is that Hughes wants an overpayment on this guy or that guy. So, I'm skeptical that they would do Edmundson for Durzi 1:1. So, going back to one of your earlier comments about giving up 3 first for an injury-prone Chychrun, I think LA is the only team that should be doing it. They aren't in a win-now mode but adding him is addressing a need, they also have a deep prospect pool so they can afford to overpay as opposed to other teams. They are better off overpaying on Chychrun than Edmundson though. At the end of the day, they can't keep everyone.

Now, if they think Gavrikov or some other defender is a better fit than Chychrun then they should pursue them for that reason rather than a lower price tag.

I think you are absolutely right about moving Vilardi since they don't have too much cap to work with and have raises due in the next two years. So moving at least one piece that is NHL-ready makes sense especially if it saves them from having to trade a current 1st and prospects that they can hold onto a bit longer and use for future moves when they are in their contention window.

Might be worth giving up the current 1st instead of 2024 one and a 3rd, if there could be a Vejmelka and Petersen swap included. I do think Petersen can make a comeback and might even be significantly better than Vejmelka, but the lower cap hit could help LA going forward.