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Jun 22, 2016
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RoyalBlueSabres</b></div><div>No. And it's not close</div></div>
What do you think his value is? The thought of McAvoy is a joke to be honest.
Eichel is a good player, but he is not in the category of Matthews, McDavid, Draistaitl, McKinnon, Barkov or Schiefele. He just isn't. He is in that next tier and he wants out.
Just try and remember what you got for ROR, who... went on to Win a Cup, it turns out it wasn't his fault.
You will end up with something similar to this deal, maybe not from the the Bruins, but some team, It almost as to happen because of salary, or if a Guy like Pettersen or Aho wanted out.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shane_Kelly</b></div><div>First, I think Debrusk is a picee in the Hertl deal, hence the two 2nds to go with it. And Having someone who is elite defensively but doesn't produce is not what the Bruins need. They need someone not names Marchand Bergeron and Pastrnak to score. They don't have that. With this aging core, they can't wait around for these guys like Debrusk Kase and Bjork to find their scoring touch. They just don't have that time. If they want to win the cup one more time, then they have to sacrifice a piece like Debrusk or Kase or Bjork or Vaak or a 1st to do so.</div></div>
I don't disagree with moving on, per say. I think the Bruins would be selling very low on Kase. As you would Debrusk. I think they are both better than they have played, but I honestly think Kase ceiling is much higher. I think if you can get Kase healthy, he will be that secondary scoring. I don't want to give up the assets for as similar player. Hertl has also had troubles staying healthy and has only really had one season where he scored. He has one season with more than 22 goals. I believe both Kase and Debrusk could do that. I understand the center aspect, but... Krejci for one more at 5m is a good thing. He is still a 50-60pt center and has always been a playoff beast. Hertl will be UFA and seeking $. Again, I like him, but 1 season with more than 22 goals amd 1 50pts season.
Why Trade Bjork now? I mean obviously if you can get a team to pay on potential, then by all means, but not as an add on. He is cheap and finally playing well.
He is also a potential Seattle pick or lure away from Zboril/Lauzon. Doubtful, but maybe.
I need to see where they are closer to deadline. I am feeling more comfortable with Studnicka. This call up has been noticeably different.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shane_Kelly</b></div><div>Lets face it, Kase deal was a mistake. Bruins took a chance on him and it has not paid off, so it's time to move on. When Kase is in the lineup, he has proven he is not a top 6 forward. But I think moving Debrusk in the Herlt deal will be enough.</div></div>
I am not sure how you can say that and then say that you think Debrusk is enough to get Hertl.
Health is certainly a concern for Kase - No doubt, but you said when healthy he isn't a top 6. Interesting because statistically they are almost identical. Kase is cheaper and under team control. They are pretty much the same age as well.
Debrusk played in 13 playoff games and had 4 goals.
Kase played in 11 playoff games and had 4 Assists.
Debrusk has 4pts (1 goal) in his last 16 regular season games.
Kase has 1 pt in 7.5 games with the Bruins.
Kase is also ELITE defensively. JD, not so much.
I get the health thing, and he needs to finish more, but it's there. Thing about stats is they tend to balance out. Yes he is 0 for 26 on SOG since joining the Bruins, but that won't last. He'll go 6/9 over some stretch. He is creating chances. New team, Covid, and injury. I am not willing to call it a mistake. He isn't getting benched. He isn't a empty shirt. He just isn't finishing. Which - JD has 1 goal. One.
If they can get Kase back healthy. It's huge.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruinsFan35</b></div><div>I know. I’d drop Krejci anyways and let Coyle/Studnicka figure it out, but Hertl is one of my faves. The first will be late in a weak class, Bjork isn’t anything special, and I’m not worried about losing a third. All those pieces are expendable, except for Vaak which would hurt but Lauzon, Grizz, and Zboril have been great when healthy. I think Hertl would be worth it.</div></div>
They can't trade Vaakanainen without getting a D back IMO, unless they really think he can't hang, or they really like Lohrei, Achan or FA. They will more than likely lose One of Zboril, Gryzelcyk or Lauzon to Seattle. I guess Kase, Bjork and Frederic are on the table too, but I'd take one of the D unless Kase comes back flying, in which case the Bruins would protect him over Bjork or Frederic.
I also don't like the idea of bailing on Bjork now. He is noticeable. Pretty much every night. That can not be said for anyone else except the 1st line.
He feels like Blake Wheeler 2.0. He is so close...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BsInOttawa</b></div><div>I don't like it. Just choose who to protect and go. They protect Carlo, McAvoy and either Lauzon or Zboril, I'd guess that the other of them gets selected or Grzelcyk. No need to give up a pick as well. Forwards I would protect top line, Coyle, DeBrusk, Ritchie, Frederick. Leave Smith, Kase, Kuraly, Wagner, Bjork exposed for forwards. They aren't stuck by contracts to protect anyone they don't want to - Bruins are actually pretty well off for the expansion draft, I think.</div></div>
They will lose Lauzon, Zboril or Bjork/Kase
my Guess is Zboril. Most upside. Slow developer but keeps getting better, or Kase, if he can come back and stay healthy. Depending on others available - could also be Bjork - I feel like there are more good defensemen available.
Would love the Bruins to trade Senyshyn and a 2nd for Seattle to leave everyone alone. Might actually be plausible if Senyshyn keeps playing well.