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Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Radical
"Marner sucks, we want your 3 best prospects, your next 1st round pick for him and we want you to take a cap dump as well."
Uhhhh.. thats gonna be a no from LA.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 hours ago
Thread:
Send Pearson back to LA
Did you misspell Podkolzin or Miller?
LA wouldn't trade the 2nd alone, much less add one of their blue chips for Pearson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 11:36 a.m.
Thread:
Revamp bottom 6 amp Tinkering
Toronto fans just keep trying to pound the square peg into the round hole.
LA doesn't want Muzzin at this point in his career. We have great memories of him and hope he does well. But taking on a 33 year old player with term left on his contract at $5.6mil that's coming off of multiple concussions and other injuries doesn't make sense for anyone. Much less a team trying to get out of a rebuild.
Then you want the player who's played the most time next to Anze Kopitar for the past 4 years as well? Hard and fast no from LA, with the added bonus statement of:
"For the love of all that's holy, please stop trying to trade us Jake Muzzin."
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 21 at 7:28 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>You heavily underestimate Sandin look up his xGF,xGA & then GA/60, GF/60
______________Sandin_________Roy____Chychryn
GF/60 ………… 3.47………….…….2.9………..2.17
GA/60 ………… 2.22 ………………2.6 ………..3.72
CF/60 ………… 66.53 ……………60.26.…….50.59
CA/60 ………… 49.11…………….55.22……..57.44
xGA/60 ………… 2.09………………3.98……….2.47
xGF/60 ………… 3.41 ………………3.21……….2.81
btw Sandin had more Hits than this season than
Chychryn 88 > 51 in almost the same amount of games 51 for Rasmus & 47 for Chychryn</div></div>
He's got impressive offensive numbers for sure. I think a significant part of that is owed to being on one of the best offensive teams in the league, where LA and Arizona are very much the opposite of that.
Again, I think he could be an option for LA. But Matt Roy wouldn't be the piece moved for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 21 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>Ok real question , Why not Sandin don’t Kings need LD?</div></div>
Sandin could be an option for LA, yes. But I think LA is looking for LD elsewhere (think Chychrun). Blake has stated that they're trying to add size to the lineup, specifically at defense. Sandin doesn't bring that size, nor does he jump Bjornfot or Anderson in the lineup.
If you're still after Roy, a trade for Sandin isnt a move with the potential to drastically upgrade the LA's roster, now or in the future. And the team gets drastically worse immediately with no replacement until Faber is ready.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 2:54 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>I just don’t believe someone who looks like a steal of a 2nd rounder who might be almost a Top 10 pick in a redraft & is nearly nhl ready without a moment in the AHL is the price for Roy?, Sorry you can love Matt Roy but no-one would trade their top prospect for him whether thats Holloway,Barron,Finley,Wolf.Suzuki,Lapierre. I can’t see any team giving up so much for Matt Roy i think a 1st & 3rd is fair value maybe throw in a prospect but thats it,</div></div>
You have to look it from both team's perspectives.
Toronto is a team that needs to find a way to win today. LA is a team that wants to contend very soon.
You're asking LA to part with the Dman who was their top-pair guy for a significant portion of the season because Doughty was out. And he proved that he can anchor a top pair while getting a team to playoffs. He's a 25 minute munching guy that plays nearly all situations (PP being the only exception).
Why would a team like LA, trying to come out of their rebuild as soon as next season move someone like that?
Yes, Knies looks like he's going to be what you say. There's a reason why I, or a Kings GM in my opinion, would target him and I don't deny that. But despite looking the part, there's still inherent risk in a player who has only played college. There is 0 NHL experience there, or pro experience for that matter.
Matt Roy has done 25 minutes a night in the NHL consistently and proved it. The best way I have described him on here to another Toronto fan before, that I stand by, is this: "Matt Roy won't win the Norris. But he'll be the reason why Morgan Reilly wins the Norris." The improvement on Toronto's right side would be drastic in ways that don't always show up on the scoresheet.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 2:32 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>He’d be a top 20 pick in that Draft 100% still he would be untouchable if i’m Dubas & he was judging by the Fleury trade</div></div>
Top 20 is by definition a 1st round pick. The value of each individual pick in the 1st round drops off significantly generally after the top 5-7 by most studies.
And you were fine with tkecankucks input on a 1st and 3rd as value. I just put a name to the pick which is when you started getting defensive.
If he's untouchable, that's fine and there's no trade to be done. You just asked what it would cost to get Matt Roy. I answered from LAs perpective.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 2:22 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>So by that Logic Owen Power,Matthew Beniers, Hell Shane Wright is what Matt Roy is worth</div></div>
Well, common now, within reason.
Let's not get confused and start thinking Knies is a previous #1 pick. He's a 2nd rounder who has improved his stock.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>I'm sorry, did Matt Roy turn into Chris Pronger this season?</div></div>
Muzzin was a 1st and 2 prospects. I think Knies and a 2nd/3rd is fair value. Roy is at a similar age/usage as Muzzin was when he was traded. He has less offensive value than Muzz did, but more defensive value.
Like I said, it's something Leafs fans wouldn't like.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 12:14 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>You can keep him if that's the cost.</div></div>
Haha fine by LA.
But the going rate for a top-pairing defenseman (which is what he'd be on Toronto) is going to be a teams top prospect and a pick at least.
There are interesting roster players on Toronto, like Nylander, but I can't see the Kings looking to hamstring their cap flexibility like that. And Knies brings in the added bonuses of
1) Having ties with Brock Faber, who the Kings are going to try desperately to sign after his junior year so they don't risk the college loophole and
2) Being a near NHL-ready winger that can -hopefully- contribute in the middle-top 6 right away. But that risk there is why a pick would need to be added.
So Knies+ is my answer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 12:07 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Matt Roy
Something you wouldn't like.
If I were Kings GM I wouldn't take anything less than Knies++.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 1:06 a.m.
Thread:
realistc as possible using rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nucksfan40</b></div><div>what yall think? no hate</div></div>
Not hating, just honesty.
That's about as bad a trade as I've seen on this site for LA. I've also not heard a single rumour that the Kings are interested in OEL. Source please?
Trying to convince anyone that OEL's contract, even with some retention, is positive value is a futile effort. And then underselling the Kings second best defensive prospect as a "B+" is just icing on the cake. And you want a legit roster player, too?
Woof. Thats a swing and a miss on this one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 1:28 p.m.
Thread:
2022-2023 Canucks
Not sure why LA would want Tyler Myers, even half retained. RD is our most covered position and Sean Walker has a better contract. Kings need a #1/#2 LD or a top-6 winger, both hopefully with some size. I also can't see JT Miller being someone the Kings spend their assets on.
I dont think LA and Vancouver are compatible trading partners currently.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 18 at 2:07 p.m.
Thread:
For fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>2 of the leafs top prospects. I could switch out the 2 3rds for 1st. I thought that was a bit much for a rental, regardless of how good he is.</div></div>
Like I said, because he can dictate where he lands I think there's a high chance of re-signing him for much cheaper than his current contract. I doubt it would be just a single year of Kane. He's not going to want to move constantly in the twilight of his career.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>I am actually surprised that out of all of this, the thing I am getting torched on is the Jonathon Quick deal... hahah</div></div>
It's an indication of three things: 1) How good Quick was this year. 2) How other teams realize that a movement of Mrazek is just Toronto realizing the mistake they made with his contract and backpedaling. He was NOT good this year, to put it mildly, and to top it off he is oft-injured. Not the traits someone wants in a goaltender they are trading for.
And 3) Granted, tkecanuck and I are both Kings fans, so it makes sense that one is the one we can talk to the most.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 18 at 1:51 p.m.
Thread:
For fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>Just to clarify, I have the pick going to LA as part of the Mrazek deal... But if quick is a no go, I'm sure they could find another comparable goalie for short term</div></div>
Ah. Not sure why I misread that pick part. My apologies.
Regardless, speaking purely value, the pick isn't good enough to entice LA into being a spot for the Mrazek dump and retaining on their franchise goaltender.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 18 at 1:49 p.m.
Thread:
For fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>i dont think chi gets more than that</div></div>
The dude just put up 92 points in 78 games on an absolutely HORRENDOUS team. He's older sure, but since he dictates where he goes with his NMC, you can be sure he'll go to a place he's likely to re-sign for much cheaper in an "end-of-career" type contract.
I dislike Kane and I dislike the Hawks, but the entire organization should fold if they only get 2 prospects and a couple third round picks for Kane.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 18 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread:
For fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>What do you think Toronto needs to add to each trade then to make them more realistic?</div></div>
I'll give you credit for adding in your top prospects (Robertson and Knies) to the deals instead of lesser guys. But let's go through each one:
Nashville -- After all the swaps, you're asking the Predators to take on $6.67 mil in cap hit (total) and taking away their two best prospects/young players in Jeannot and Askarov. Nylander is a good player, but Nashville still has to try to navigate signing Forsberg in addition to figuring out the path that the organization wants to take. This just isn't something that the Preds could do at all, regardless of what you added. At a certain point, Toronto runs out of assets.
LA -- Mrazek is a cap dump, plain and simple. You're asking the Kings to send you one of their franchise icons who just played an incredible season the year before he likely retires. And you're asking LA to retain on that trade AND add a pick to it. For starters, you've got the pick going the wrong direction. Next, it would have to be significantly better than a 4th rounder. And lastly, it just won't happen. LA isn't trading Quick.
Kane -- You're asking a team to retain nearly 6mil on a star player. For illustration purposes, it took a 1st rounder for Toronto to dump 6mil of Marleau's contract. Kane the player is worth the prospects and picks you have. Kane's retention is worth at least another 1st.
At least, that's how I view the trades.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 18 at 1:21 p.m.
Thread:
For fun
Every team says no so fast that it becomes not fun.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 18 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread:
One More Year of Bergeron
I mean, that LA "trade" is a joke right?
That's laughably bad for LA.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 17 at 7:28 p.m.
Thread:
Scenario - If Muzz does not return
Nothing in that package is enticing to LA. Anderson isn't a real NHL addition, regardless of his brother being in LA. Neither Kase nor Abruzese jump any of the prospects the Kings are already trying to get in the lineup. And the 4th is just an insult. In addition to that, Matt Roy is frankly just not available until Brock Faber is suited up for the Kings and ready to play 20 minutes a night, so think 2 years down the road.
Sean Walker, Durzi, and Spence would be available before Matt Roy at the right price.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 17 at 7:21 p.m.
Thread:
If Miller must go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny_Canuck</b></div><div>Ok fine - basically just a template. LA is rich in RHD prospects, owing to their smart rebuild/excellent drafting (which Canucks fans were begging for). Now we need to find a 19-22 YO RHD or two. Believe me I wouldn't want to lose Boeser, and at 6.25 per on a 3-yr I'd prefer to keep him. I doubt they settle on qualifying him at 7.5m for one year, but even if they do it's not the end of the world as they'll have another year of control. How do you rank LA's RHD prospects out of curiosity?</div></div>
My personal ranking of LA's RD prospects goes as such
1) Clarke
2) Faber
3) Grans
4) Spence
5) Durzi
I really do like Durzi and what he brings, but I think the others all have a ceiling as high or better than him. In terms of RIGHT NOW, I go Clarke, Faber, Durzi, Spence, Grans.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 17 at 1:55 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Toronto Swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockey_mike91</b></div><div>Well that's the fun of being an Armchair GM, whether the media is saying it or a group of fans. Good entertainment!
I agree Muzzin isn't going anywhere. He wouldn't waive and at the end of the day he's actually very good. The issue will be health moving forward.
I don't think LA in general makes sense as a trade partner anymore, you guys are already now coming out of the rebuild and got some great young pieces. Fun team to watch over the next 3 years and beyond.
I know we're going to have nightmares about Durzi lol</div></div>
Agree with pretty much all of what you just said.
The cool thing about the LA-Toronto trades is that they seem to have worked out for both teams equally well. No, the Leafs haven't won past the 1st round, but they've still been incredibly successful otherwise. Campbell has turned into a heck of a goalie, Muzz was great for you for the past few years, and even Clifford had his parts to play.
On the flip side, LA is sitting pretty with Moore, Durzi, Grundstrom, and Bjornfot.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 17 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo
As a Kings fan, Turcotte's development has been nothing but speed bump after speed bump, which is extremely concerning. Not the latest of which is a concussion that happened about a week ago after a MONSTER cheap shot from a Colorado Eagles player. This is his second concussion in his career (both happened this season).
Turcotte's health will come first before the Kings decide to do anything with him. That being said, I'd still take my chances on Turc over Casey, who I'm just not impressed with. At least when Turcotte is on the ice, I am always impressed with his play (even if it is AHL). And the fact that he was in the AHL was more due to 1) roster limitations/blocks in bottom-6 players with NHL contracts and 2) the desire to give him more time to put on muscle/grow into his body more. I don't think it's ever been a question of NHL skill needing more development for Turc.
Grans for Johnson is fine. It might even be another way for the Kings to ensure Brock Faber does sign with LA instead of going the 4-year college loop-hole route after next year. Faber is going to be a junior this year after just BARELY missing out on winning a Frozen Four championship, so I won't worry about that possibility unless he says at the end of next season that he's going to stay in college for his senior year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 17 at 1:23 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Toronto Swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockey_mike91</b></div><div>Fair enough, I'll make an edit. I know I had read they were interested in Engvall / Kerfoot but this was likely from 1-2 years ago.</div></div>
I don't ever recall the Kings saying they've had interest in Engvall or Kerfoot. The only place I've seen that is here where many Leafs fans tried to will it into being for an extended period of time.
They've since moved on to Muzzin to LA, which is also a non-starter for the Kings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 17 at 12:21 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Toronto Swap
No thanks from LA. We have no desire for Kerfoot.
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