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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 7:28 p.m.
Thread: Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>You heavily underestimate Sandin look up his xGF,xGA &amp; then GA/60, GF/60

______________Sandin_________Roy____Chychryn
GF/60 ………… 3.47………….…….2.9………..2.17
GA/60 ………… 2.22 ………………2.6 ………..3.72
CF/60 ………… 66.53 ……………60.26.…….50.59
CA/60 ………… 49.11…………….55.22……..57.44
xGA/60 ………… 2.09………………3.98……….2.47
xGF/60 ………… 3.41 ………………3.21……….2.81

btw Sandin had more Hits than this season than
Chychryn 88 &gt; 51 in almost the same amount of games 51 for Rasmus &amp; 47 for Chychryn</div></div>

He's got impressive offensive numbers for sure. I think a significant part of that is owed to being on one of the best offensive teams in the league, where LA and Arizona are very much the opposite of that.

Again, I think he could be an option for LA. But Matt Roy wouldn't be the piece moved for him.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 20 at 2:54 p.m.
Thread: Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>I just don’t believe someone who looks like a steal of a 2nd rounder who might be almost a Top 10 pick in a redraft &amp; is nearly nhl ready without a moment in the AHL is the price for Roy?, Sorry you can love Matt Roy but no-one would trade their top prospect for him whether thats Holloway,Barron,Finley,Wolf.Suzuki,Lapierre. I can’t see any team giving up so much for Matt Roy i think a 1st &amp; 3rd is fair value maybe throw in a prospect but thats it,</div></div>

You have to look it from both team's perspectives.

Toronto is a team that needs to find a way to win today. LA is a team that wants to contend very soon.

You're asking LA to part with the Dman who was their top-pair guy for a significant portion of the season because Doughty was out. And he proved that he can anchor a top pair while getting a team to playoffs. He's a 25 minute munching guy that plays nearly all situations (PP being the only exception).

Why would a team like LA, trying to come out of their rebuild as soon as next season move someone like that?

Yes, Knies looks like he's going to be what you say. There's a reason why I, or a Kings GM in my opinion, would target him and I don't deny that. But despite looking the part, there's still inherent risk in a player who has only played college. There is 0 NHL experience there, or pro experience for that matter.

Matt Roy has done 25 minutes a night in the NHL consistently and proved it. The best way I have described him on here to another Toronto fan before, that I stand by, is this: "Matt Roy won't win the Norris. But he'll be the reason why Morgan Reilly wins the Norris." The improvement on Toronto's right side would be drastic in ways that don't always show up on the scoresheet.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 20 at 12:14 p.m.
Thread: Whats the price of Matt Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>You can keep him if that's the cost.</div></div>

Haha fine by LA.

But the going rate for a top-pairing defenseman (which is what he'd be on Toronto) is going to be a teams top prospect and a pick at least.

There are interesting roster players on Toronto, like Nylander, but I can't see the Kings looking to hamstring their cap flexibility like that. And Knies brings in the added bonuses of

1) Having ties with Brock Faber, who the Kings are going to try desperately to sign after his junior year so they don't risk the college loophole and

2) Being a near NHL-ready winger that can -hopefully- contribute in the middle-top 6 right away. But that risk there is why a pick would need to be added.

So Knies+ is my answer.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 2:07 p.m.
Thread: For fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>2 of the leafs top prospects. I could switch out the 2 3rds for 1st. I thought that was a bit much for a rental, regardless of how good he is.</div></div>

Like I said, because he can dictate where he lands I think there's a high chance of re-signing him for much cheaper than his current contract. I doubt it would be just a single year of Kane. He's not going to want to move constantly in the twilight of his career.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>I am actually surprised that out of all of this, the thing I am getting torched on is the Jonathon Quick deal... hahah</div></div>

It's an indication of three things: 1) How good Quick was this year. 2) How other teams realize that a movement of Mrazek is just Toronto realizing the mistake they made with his contract and backpedaling. He was NOT good this year, to put it mildly, and to top it off he is oft-injured. Not the traits someone wants in a goaltender they are trading for.

And 3) Granted, tkecanuck and I are both Kings fans, so it makes sense that one is the one we can talk to the most.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread: For fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>El_Dub</b></div><div>What do you think Toronto needs to add to each trade then to make them more realistic?</div></div>

I'll give you credit for adding in your top prospects (Robertson and Knies) to the deals instead of lesser guys. But let's go through each one:

Nashville -- After all the swaps, you're asking the Predators to take on $6.67 mil in cap hit (total) and taking away their two best prospects/young players in Jeannot and Askarov. Nylander is a good player, but Nashville still has to try to navigate signing Forsberg in addition to figuring out the path that the organization wants to take. This just isn't something that the Preds could do at all, regardless of what you added. At a certain point, Toronto runs out of assets.

LA -- Mrazek is a cap dump, plain and simple. You're asking the Kings to send you one of their franchise icons who just played an incredible season the year before he likely retires. And you're asking LA to retain on that trade AND add a pick to it. For starters, you've got the pick going the wrong direction. Next, it would have to be significantly better than a 4th rounder. And lastly, it just won't happen. LA isn't trading Quick.

Kane -- You're asking a team to retain nearly 6mil on a star player. For illustration purposes, it took a 1st rounder for Toronto to dump 6mil of Marleau's contract. Kane the player is worth the prospects and picks you have. Kane's retention is worth at least another 1st.

At least, that's how I view the trades.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17 at 7:21 p.m.
Thread: If Miller must go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny_Canuck</b></div><div>Ok fine - basically just a template. LA is rich in RHD prospects, owing to their smart rebuild/excellent drafting (which Canucks fans were begging for). Now we need to find a 19-22 YO RHD or two. Believe me I wouldn't want to lose Boeser, and at 6.25 per on a 3-yr I'd prefer to keep him. I doubt they settle on qualifying him at 7.5m for one year, but even if they do it's not the end of the world as they'll have another year of control. How do you rank LA's RHD prospects out of curiosity?</div></div>

My personal ranking of LA's RD prospects goes as such

1) Clarke
2) Faber
3) Grans
4) Spence
5) Durzi

I really do like Durzi and what he brings, but I think the others all have a ceiling as high or better than him. In terms of RIGHT NOW, I go Clarke, Faber, Durzi, Spence, Grans.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17 at 1:55 p.m.
Thread: Winnipeg Toronto Swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockey_mike91</b></div><div>Well that's the fun of being an Armchair GM, whether the media is saying it or a group of fans. Good entertainment!

I agree Muzzin isn't going anywhere. He wouldn't waive and at the end of the day he's actually very good. The issue will be health moving forward.

I don't think LA in general makes sense as a trade partner anymore, you guys are already now coming out of the rebuild and got some great young pieces. Fun team to watch over the next 3 years and beyond.

I know we're going to have nightmares about Durzi lol</div></div>

Agree with pretty much all of what you just said.

The cool thing about the LA-Toronto trades is that they seem to have worked out for both teams equally well. No, the Leafs haven't won past the 1st round, but they've still been incredibly successful otherwise. Campbell has turned into a heck of a goalie, Muzz was great for you for the past few years, and even Clifford had his parts to play.

On the flip side, LA is sitting pretty with Moore, Durzi, Grundstrom, and Bjornfot.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread: Buffalo
As a Kings fan, Turcotte's development has been nothing but speed bump after speed bump, which is extremely concerning. Not the latest of which is a concussion that happened about a week ago after a MONSTER cheap shot from a Colorado Eagles player. This is his second concussion in his career (both happened this season).

Turcotte's health will come first before the Kings decide to do anything with him. That being said, I'd still take my chances on Turc over Casey, who I'm just not impressed with. At least when Turcotte is on the ice, I am always impressed with his play (even if it is AHL). And the fact that he was in the AHL was more due to 1) roster limitations/blocks in bottom-6 players with NHL contracts and 2) the desire to give him more time to put on muscle/grow into his body more. I don't think it's ever been a question of NHL skill needing more development for Turc.

Grans for Johnson is fine. It might even be another way for the Kings to ensure Brock Faber does sign with LA instead of going the 4-year college loop-hole route after next year. Faber is going to be a junior this year after just BARELY missing out on winning a Frozen Four championship, so I won't worry about that possibility unless he says at the end of next season that he's going to stay in college for his senior year.
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