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Forum: NHL TradesApr. 29, 2021 at 11:25 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny12357</b></div><div>This trade is hard to evaluate because of how obvious these two teams as trade partners seemed, and how hard it would be for either team to win the deal.

I think Dubois gets overrated quite a bit, he's far closer to being around Kadri level then he is an elite #1, which isn't bad, but he seems to get a lot of brownie points for being big and a center. He seems to generate offense pretty well, but not elite, and he's not great defensively. He draws penalties, mostly through being a bit of a sneaky dirty player, and the fact that retaliation gets called far more consistently then initial infractions, and he's a good center, I just don't know that he ever becomes the player some people think he already is.

Laine is a pure weapon, doesn't seem capable of creating a lot of chances himself, but he finishes at a rate that is just bonkers, and can singlehandedly transform a PP. He has a reputation as being bad defensively, which I find funny because he and Dubois are very similar in that regard, but Dubois seems to be thought of as a two-way center while Laine is considered a liability. Reality is they are both just relatively young players who are weaker than average defensively.

Overall, I think Jarmo wins the deal because of the fact that he managed to get a reasonable prospect back in the deal, and got Winnipeg to hold back salary making it so the Jackets can continue to accrue cap space. With how bad Dubois was playing and him almost forcing his way out, I think Jarmo literally did as well as you could hope. That being said, I think given the apparent "perception" about Laine, Chevy managed to get a young center, which is what he wanted, so he probably did as well as he could have given the market conditions, and it helps that he got the position they felt they needed the most help with (aside from D).

I think Columbus wins the deal overall, but it's hard to really fault Winnipeg here.</div></div>

Seeing how Liane is doing in Columbus.
Is your opinon the same?
Forum: San Jose SharksApr. 19, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>We're in deep **** and I think the organization is starting to wise up to how dire our future is at this rate. Not sure we ever embrace a full rebuild though. Not going to go too deep into the whole spiel but I think the foundations of your hypothetical game plan are generally the right direction to move in for the club. I'm not sure how long it would take to get back to a legitimately decent team, but accepting that the team we currently have is not gonna do anything meaningful in the future is a good start.

I'm happy to keep Kane and fine with sticking with Karlsson however painful that contract is in the long run, but I wouldn't mind seeing every other core piece go if the price is right. Hertl is one that would make me the most sad, but you gotta do what you gotta do. I could be wrong, but I think at least one (if not both) of Meier and Labanc are outta here by next season as well. And if that's the case, it's absolutely fine by me.

We just need quality &gt; quantity at this rate, and a major overhaul at all 3 positions. Like you said, I'd rather deal with the short-term pain of a rebuild than a future in which we're screwed for years and possibly decades because we refused to acknowledge that this team will never be competitive again without a major refresh.</div></div>

I believe we already are going to regret not rebuilding sooner. Or trading pieces for better younger pieces. But <a href="/users/jfrojelin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jfrojelin</a> often points out the coaching problem.

I think Bob is a good coach at times - he seems like a good guy too obviously, and smart. But he’s not a good HEAD COACH. He wasn’t good in Florida and he hasn’t been here. I think he’s better as a part of the coaching staff. We likely won’t see a coaching change but I hope we do. Keep bob and the rest of the guys if you want but a we need a different head. If we can improve our LEAD/ HEAD coach and then keep on the familiar faces who have shown they’re useful. Bob is useful, Nabby is useful. Get a new head coach, either this new coach or someone new for the PP as well.

Then I really hope we change the make up of this team. Trade Donato at draft day as I believe we will make an aggressive trade on draft day. Maybe someone else too. Please expose burns. We can’t have Karlsson and Burns. They’re both fine players still but having two guys who want to be the leader of the OFD doesn’t work. I know merkley is just gonna replace him but Karlsson and Burns both want to be the offensive driver and we’ve seen that it just doesn’t work. If we can put Ferraro with a new 2nd pair (assuming Knyzhov stays with Karlsson) where it’s solely defensive (not 3 pairs of Karlsson, Burns, Merkley) than we can have a shutdown pair.

Knyzhov - Karlsson
Ferraro - New DFD/TWD
Simek - Merkley

Or

Ferraro - Merkley

With Simek getting a new DFD (please not Vlasic)

Then we can actually see if we can get a a pair who we can deploy confidently in our own zone. Karlsson and Burns are either really good or really bad and we can’t rely on a gamble. If we can rely on Simek/ Mario + a new face then we can actually allow Karlsson/ Merkley do their jobs. Right now we’re trying to make Burns and Karlsson be TWD and they just simply aren’t. They’re OFD and they’ll never be good all 82 games. That’s the life of a OFD.

If we don’t sell in the offseason I just truly hope management realizes these new kids can actually carry teams (Barzal, Tkachuk, Norris/ Stutzle, point etc) if you just get 1 hit in the draft that’s young and talented who performs - he can change the entire feel of the team. If we sooner realize that hey don’t need 20 vets but a mix of veterans who are playing around some talented youth we could actually compete again. It won’t be next year (unless things go amazing for Leonard, Bordeleau (somehow), Knyzhov and Ferraro plus our new draft).

We need help in net too obviously but that’s already acknowledged by management and I think they know they’ll need to make changes.
Forum: San Jose SharksApr. 26, 2021 at 1:03 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OutCold13</b></div><div>I still like Burns, he may be getting old but I don't think Sharks should pay someone to take him. Getting to watch him more this year than I do normally I think his decline isn't so much physical as it is him not playing within the system, probably just trying to make a play, other times he seems disengaged I would guess that might be because of how terrible the Sharks have been.
My point is this, Sharks should be able to move Burns if they are willing to retain a good chunk of his salary probably even get a nice pick or prospect in return. Karlsson maybe the same but I think Sharks keep him and just manage his health.
As far as who I believe Sharks need to target in the draft it is Wallstedt. Only because I think great goaltending fixes many things. I do understand the reluctance to draft a goalie high. I suspect the Sharks draft 8 and power should be gone by then.

On another note, I live in MN so I'm not sure I get the best Sharks info. I read Kurz and follow Pashelka on twitter, but both pale in comparison to Russo's coverage of the Wild. Is there a podcast or someone else I should be reading/ following? Who has the best Sharks info?</div></div>

Yeah Donato and a pick im not upset to part with but anything more isnt worth moving burns. because as you said; people who actually watch the Sharks know that he hasn't been a issue (in terms of play and condition at all this year (neither has Karlsson but issues arise from both; disengaged, playing their way cause the team sucks etc)

And I'm fine with Wallstedt but I still believe some trades need to be made to bring some youth into the team. So if we keep Burns then Id like to see Donato traded at least. As I think this is actually a decent draft. I really want another first but thats unlikely.


Sheng Peng would be your guy. I always go to Sheng - usually better updates and just general info than the other two. Even more so because I feel hes just overall way better but also because Sheng somewhat updates regularly on the Barracuda/ prospects but mainly he retweets a lot of barracuda info/ updates from BrianTruong (who works for Sheng, as a primary guy for the Barracuda). He's alot more consistent and active and seems to just be a way better source than Kevin Kurz usually lol (nothing against Kurz but he's mainly behind a paywall whereas Sheng has his own "hustle").
Hard to compare to Russo in general as Russo is just very good haha - but Sheng is the Sharks best option.
Forum: San Jose SharksApr. 13, 2021 at 1:43 a.m.
I personally don't see how management does not view the team in disarray.

Kane - Good but getting old
Couture - Good but getting old
Burns - Already declining but still good (but STILL OLD)
Karlsson - Shell of his former self with flashes of brilliance and flashes of horror (and getting old)
Hertl - Great but doesn't fit a timeline to be utilized fully
Meier - Young but not a gamebreaker
Labanc - Young but not a gamebreaker

All these mentioned pieces above are movable assets (with Karlsson and Couture unlikely to ever be moved for differing reasons). Kane is still tradeable, Burns could be on Seattle - if not we could part with incentives (like Donato and a pick (like a 2nd)). Now all things considered;

Kane, Karlsson, Meier, Couture stay with the Sharks.

Sell Hertl high - as this past TDL; he would have been sold for high. A basically blue chip prospect and a first maybe a small add too (maybe even MORE) would easily have been returned at 50% retention for two playoff runs with Hertl at a 2.6m AAV. I will die on this hill.

Sell Labanc - additionally at this past TDL or coming Draft day I see him fetching either a pair of 2nds and a prospect. If not, a first and a prospect of value (but nothing crazy special).

Next you send Burns, Donato, a 2nd, and maybe an additional asset or a conditional asset to Seattle. Shoot me if you want; but I'd think Burns, Gregor, Donato, 2022 2nd would have Burns as a Kraken.

This leaves you with (simplified):

2021 Firsts = 2 (ours plus Hertls) = <strong>Let's just assume we draft Owen Powers early, and Sillinger/ Lambos mid round.</strong>
2021 2nd and a 2022 2nd = Labanc trade = <strong>Lets say we get Corson Ceulemans with the 2021 pick.</strong>
A New Top Prospect <strong>(lets use Boldy or Newhook as prospect type value for this scenario, Hertl Trade)</strong>
A New Good Prospect <strong>(lets use Bellows or Logan Brown prospect type as an example from the Labanc Trade)</strong>

Sprinkle in the other moves plus those for mid round picks and you have 5 QUALITY new prospect invigorating the Sharks Prospect Pool. Even being modest (reducing Labanc + Hertl returns), make it only Ceulemans and Bellows for Labanc &amp; Newhook and Lambos for Hertl no other adds. Thats still quality. Add those pieces too Bordeleau, Merkley, Melnichuk, Korenar, Ferraro, Leonard, Knyzhov, Hatakka, Kniazev, Guschin, Balcers, and Gambrell and that is a supringsly bright team in 2 seasons assuming things just go well (if things went amazing than it honestly could be much brighter) + Meier in his prime with Couture and Kane still usable and Karlsson still playing. Add in our 2022 Pick likely being early (Lambert, Lavoie, or Wright) - and thats quite literally a successful transition within this seasons TDL -&gt; start of 2022-23.

I do not want to hate on the Sharks - as the reason were in this situation was because as a franchise, the Sharks competed for basically 20 years straight - being a cup contender for a major amount of time. Doug Wilson has the most wins as a GM since 2003 (over 750). They did all they could and more to field a dominate team. Even near the end; as we all can hate it - the Karlsson trade was to WIN a cup. Not to be winning a Norris is 2022. But to win the cup when he was acquired. So even until the very end the team did all they could (and STILL ARE BECAUSE WE ARENT REBUILDING) to give the Sharks a chance to win.

But its about time to call it quits. Because rebuilding now may hurt for a little bit - but being forced to rebuild in 2 years or so when its way too late is going to hurt for YEARS.
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