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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 22, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: Corsi Style Rebuild
Maybe Montreal doesn't do that exact trade, but Bowman and Bergevin seem to be buddies so a deal could be worked out if Stan wanted to trade Toews. Plus Bergevin owes him one for trading Danault in the first place, hah.

As far Tuch goes in the Vegas trade, for all his hype and skills which flash on ice plus his reasonable contract (Stan loves cost certainty), he's 23 with 3 full NHL seasons now. He seems to be about a half point per game player and reached 20 goals once. His relative Corsi and Fenwick were negative last season, and his PDO was sub 100 despite a 60% offensive zone start. These numbers aren't the be all/end all except I'd rather see better numbers without watching a lot of VGK games other than the playoff series. I do like Tuch too and he had some great shifts against the Blackhawks that are fresh in my mind. If the Blackhawks were trading Kane, there's a chance that this is who Tuch is, a half point per game player for whom production doesn't quite meet skills/expectations. He could also blow up for 35 goals next season so there is a risk/reward to his value for me
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 16, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread: some kaner trades bc this team is fkd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>like every team there laughs at these.
No one is giving up a young star player for a 32 year old player at 10 million per.
This is the problem with aging stars.
The value to the team they are on is high. Which is why fans would want the world for say Crosby.
But the reality to it is no team is giving that up. Because their future star players are worth more to them than a 32 year old ending his career.

Just look at the Karlsson trade. I think that's a great example. They got picks and some scraps

A deal from the penguins would probably look more like POJ and a 1st.
And the rest of the teams probably following suit.
Remember Karlsson was much younger than Kane.</div></div>

Erik Karlsson is only two years younger than Kane, technically about 1.5 years, and I believe he was on the last year of his contract when traded by Ottawa. He needed a new contract. It's not a great comparison.

In general I agree it'd be tough to trade Kane. Zero chance of recouping his value as it'd tough for the other team to trade a combo of NHL players, prospects, picks and take on a 10M cap hit with a flat cap. I don't really see why the Blackhawks would trade him unless they don't think they'll have any fans for two years anyway.

That said, Kane isn't really declining much yet. I do agree he will one day, but he was still 9th in points last year even with a mix of line mates and Debrincat's shooting % dropping. It's not like he played on a stacked line most shifts. He's still great and drives possession. And as someone else pointed out, he's signed for only 3 more seasons, not 7 or 8.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 28, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
Thread: BIG Leafs trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Yeah CHI adds. Only type of player I see Dubas trading Nylander for is likely a TOP4 D of the same age. with top pair ceiling. Not a 27 year old 2nd pair D, a 28 year old pending UFA and a relatively low pick.

By stretching a bit, it looks to me like TOR offering Kerfoot+Muzzin+2021 1st for Debrincat. Imo the value is close to equivalent - and that is not something CHI will ever take.</div></div>

I don't think Dubas would offer Kerfoot+Muzzin+2021 for Debrincat as it doesn't meet any of the team's needs. In a quick review of needs for Toronto, I see blue line help is needed, and that 77% penalty kill is a good way to never get out of the first round of the playoffs. The trade you suggested weakens the Leafs blue line and gives them a top 6 winger that doesn't kill penalties. It also doesn't really provide any net benefit to the Blackhawks as they already have enough 30+ yr old D and middle 6'rs in their mid-20's. It's fine if you're spit-balling in terms of value, but the basics of the Saad/Murphy for W Nylander is it improves the Leafs blue line and should help the PK, while staying fairly cap neutral with salary retained.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 23, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.
Thread: Pietrangelo Comes to Chi-Town
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Rangers decline, Hawks are trending down and Pietrangelo isn't wasting his time in Chi-Town.</div></div>

He's probably getting a 7 yr deal, but if the Blackhawks offered the best contract, he absolutely would play for the Blackhawks. In general, players play for money. That said, Seabs and Shaw are both likely not going to be eligible for LTIR at the start of the season, so there's no way they'll be able to sign Pietrangelo and stay under the cap as fun of a thought as it is.

Pietrangelo would sign with the Red Wings if they offered 7/10M and no other team did. Why? Wouldn't he want to go to a Cup contender next year? No, not if it's $70M versus $60M. Winning, trending, Cup odds, home town discount all take a back seat to contract amount and might come into play only if and when contract terms were similar.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 22, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
Thread: Getting even younger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Laudan</b></div><div>Ok, i was reading a lot CHI threads where you ppl are claiming 15OA for Murphy but this one is to much.

Murphy is in the quality ball-park of Montour, who got late 1st ( 29OA ) and B prospect ( is he even ? ). Please dont act like TML homers that you ppl like to mock so much......</div></div>

Anaheim did trade Montour for a conditional 2019 pick (it did turn out to be a late first) + a prospect at the TDL with only 1 full season of term remaining at 3.375M. Years remaining under contract matters in trades. Granted not as much as talent but term/cap hit is a factor. As far as Guhle, 51st overall in 2015, was age 21 at the time of the trade...he might be offended at B prospect but based on games played he's a bottom pair D at best? Some D do take longer to develop.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 22, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: Getting even younger
Murphy to Toronto does make sense to me as Blackhawks fan. Singed for two more seasons at 3.85M, middle pair RHD. Improves their D which was an issue last season for them and there's a few holes due to free agency.
I see the Leafs window for a Cup is now, not in 3 years when the 15OA is going to actually contribute. I don't know that Leafs fans see it the same way and I don't how long they think their window is going to be open for (hint, it's not 6 years from now). I do get they probably haven't watched a lot of Murphy, so to them he might be just some bottom pair or 7th who's probably not as good as Dermott or whoever that's either an RFA or UFA. It's my only two thoughts on why they seem offended at the thought of improving their D at a very reasonable cap hit of $3.8M and the cost of a 15OA pick that in all likelihood will not help their current core win the Cup.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
Thread: Offer Sheet Heiskanen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksince71</b></div><div>Heiskanen still has a year remaining on his ELC, so this offer sheet can’t happen until after the 20-21 season. Heiskanen is the franchise in Dallas now &amp; future. Teams simply match the offer sheet. Happen when the Hurricanes offered Fedorov a contract. Detroit matched it. Same when the Flames made an offer sheet to O’Reilly. Colorado matched it</div></div>

I mean, the Federov offer sheet was back in 1998, pre-cap. Not sure that one should count. I looked up the O'Reilly offer sheet because I couldn't remember the term, it was only 2 years and was back when teams could still offer "bridge" type of deals to RFA's and they'd sign them. Plus, I don't remember the Avs being a cap-strapped team at the time, but I could be wrong. The Aho offer was a little low.

We're looking at a small sample size when looking at offer sheets, to say the least. It doesn't seem as though GM's are overly strategic when making them so far. We're now at a flat cap and top RFA's are seemingly less willing to get a bridge type of deal. The Stars and Lightning are in the SCF this year. Last I checked the Lightning would have a lot of cap issues if another team offered Sergachev a 4/$5.5M offer sheet. Fine, one has done the negotiating for them. But they'll be over the cap and have to make some moves to get back under if they match. After next offseason, sure, the Stars can handle a $6.5M cap hit. But they have only 4 forwards and 3 D with NHL experience currently signed for 21-22. I'd even go 4/$8.7M per for Heiskenan. Why not make filling out the roster a little tougher on Nill? Gentleman's agreement to make life easier for all GMs at the expense of using the offer sheet as a tool to improve one's own team?